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What I'm worried about is what I've seen happen a few times within Achaea and other MUDs. There are rare situations when people get in power and abuse it. These individuals can make life hard on novices trying to advance that they flat out don't like. On top of making it hell for players to enjoy a house, this has caused the stagnation and death of a few houses over each of the IRE games. This is more of a fear in houses than in cities, from what I've seen.
So while I'm ultimately interested to see how it pans out, I feel the need to point out the avenues for some pretty nasty situations that less fair individuals could manipulate.
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I suspect people may be extremely reluctant to promote or favour freely with this new system. People won't promote outside of a formal advancement framework. People won't favour because, oh dear, that costs the House credits - we sell those in credit sales, I'm not really authorised to go giving them out! There's no reason for that to be the case, but I suspect people will tend towards caution and conservatism. They usually do.
It's a nice idea though. Might just take a bit of nudging from HMs to get people to use favours. Houses can create their own internal systems to replicate the old favour system, with people giving informal commendations in the log that are recorded in a project, and the HM eventually recognising that, "This person has several commendations, I think it's time to promote them a rank."
But honestly, I don't like the way this could affect city progression for younger members. So I wouldn't mind seeing city's maintain the old system of city favours, and Houses use the new system. It makes more sense in a House, but city is a little different.
House-wise I hope this will encourage Houses to revisit post-HR5 advancement and perhaps do a little adjusting - and maybe it will encourage people to -want- to progress beyond HR5 more. And I'm all for making it possible to favour people under HR5 to recognize their work, that restriction has always bugged the heck out of me (why couldn't they just not count if you were under HR5!). But disliking the -requiring- cityfavours to award a credit.
If you didn't like the old system, congratulations, today is the dawn of a new era. The mechanics now work for you, instead of you trying to accomplish what you want within the confines of the old system, and you can orchestrate any path through the ranks you want. If you did like the old system, nothing has to change. Yes, technically favours won't automatically promote, but if you liked that form of progression you can absolutely institute a program that accomplishes the same thing, like Verrucht just laid out; X favours = promotion. Flexibility is the byword of the new changes, or so I hope.
So far the only thing I didn't know/don't like is that HF/CFs must give out house credits, if that's true. I can tell you that -I- plan to give out house credits via HFs, but if your House doesn't want to do that, you shouldn't be forced to. You should be able to just use them as head-pats and 'atta-boys if that's what your org chooses. I think that'd be pretty lame and boring, might as well just "writelog house Bod did a good thing", but if you wanted that to be your system, then by all means it should be within your power to do so.
If this is a bug it would be nice to have it fixed.
Edit: Tecton says it's being fixed. Yay Tecton.
Can you city demote/promote people even if they are offline like you could do with favours?
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With the new system, undoing the demotion is just a case of promoting them as many times as they were demoted. Annoying, perhaps, but not really a big issue. I'm not sure there needs to be anything to prevent it.
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Assuming promotions are logged (if promotions aren't logged, they need to be), it shouldn't take much longer to undo than it did to do.
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One thing I am curious about, with being able to check someones person favour log... how far back will these logs go? And will they be dated?
As for city's, I think this is going to remove the ability to slowly demonstrate your worth. Without a standardized system, which is going to look check listy, it's just going to be back to counting favors, which makes the fact that favors are now a glorified writelog seem pretty silly. I think adding this functionality in addition to the old one would have made more sense.
All in all, as someone that was pretty darn close to the next rank in city and house, I am not going to say I am overly pleased. I understand the push for this, but getting months worth of work reset is kinda a downer. As hard as it is to get city favors in some cities, I'm sure getting a promotion is going to be twice as fun.
I think I like the new system, though. Gonna see how well it plays out. Oh and @Matias... if you feel like being screwed, you know where to look.