Crafting Questions

Qwyn

Because the crafting system is confusing!

Qwyn

So, why do I keep getting appearance populated into my taste/smell?

This note card bears the sketch of a proposed product.

Item type: NONE  Ingredient:   Cooked: No  Designer:

Appearance:

a decadent plate of chocolate-covered strawberries

Dropped:

Chocolate-dipped strawberries tempting, a plate of fruit is here.

Examined:

Arrayed in a stunning radial display, this plate is a decadent treat. Rich dark chocolate coats each strawberry in a crisp coat, with lush, ripe fruit inside, perfect for both an indulgent snack and a sinful desert. Drizzled atop the entire assortment is a lavish white chocolate, giving a stark color contrast, along with a delightful visual display.

First Eaten:

You pop a chocolate-covered strawberry into your mouth, savoring the decadent treat - before long, you have consumed the entire plate.

Third Eaten:

$eater pops a chocolate-covered strawberry into $eater_his mouth, savoring the decadent treat - before long, $eater_he has consumed the entire plate of treats.

Taste:

A decadent plate of chocolate-covered strawberries A nibble of some decadent chocolate-covered strawberries is transcendent, hints of cocoa and fresh fruit melding.

Smell:

A decadent plate of chocolate-covered strawberries The scents of rich chocolate and fresh fruit hit your nose in a tantalizing aroma.

It has 150 months of usefulness left.

It weighs 1 ounce(s).

It bears the distinctive mark of The Delosian Crafting Council (a denizen).

Tahquil

That is how crafting works. When describing taste or smell you just write something to tack on the end.

Qwyn

Serious or trolling? I honestly can't tell.

Are you literally saying that the skillset literally states that we do: <name> smells yummy. Why would nobody in the crafter clan say that? That seems so weak.

Tahquil

Serious. I'm sorry. But literally the shortname of the item will be the start of your taste/smell responses.

Edited out assumption because that's doesn't help anyone.

Qwyn

<imbibed too much>

Skye

That taste/smell thing has repeatedly tripped me (and our blessed reviewers) up a few times now.

When you set it on the sketch doing DESIGN SKETCH TASTE <stuff>, it very clearly says like

A bowl of fruityblergs tastes fruitilicious.

and it trips you up when you go back a few days later to make an edit, and you just blindly copy/paste the whole line and if for whatever reason, nobody happens to notice it... it'll appear on your NDS list as:

Smell
smells fruitilicious <- notice that the item's short desc doesn't appear in this?

Taste
A bowl of fruityblergs tastes fruitilicious with all natural flavourings.

Which still looks like it makes perfect sense at a glance until some well-meaning person does TASTE BOWL and then sees:

A bowl of fruityblergs a bowl of fruityblergs tastes fruitilicious with all natural flavourings.

It's definitely one of the clumsier parts of crafting, but just how the thing works.

Matias

Looks like it could benefit from the @thing from emotes. You smell X, Y and Z from @thing.

Qwyn

Is it supposed to cost gold every time you submit an item, even if it's a resubmission for a correction?

Also, what determines the various gold fees (submission cost, approval cost)?

Shirszae

Qwyn said:

Is it supposed to cost gold every time you submit an item, even if it's a resubmission for a correction?

Also, what determines the various gold fees (submission cost, approval cost)?

Yeah, the gold cost is meant as a way to make people more careful with what they are submitting. As for approval, at least with tailoring, it depends partially on the garment and what comes with it. Gems and exotic or pricey fabrics and the like are going to shoot the price upwards.

Kayeil

Since I was there when you were asking the question  on the crafting clan, all I can say is at least from my perspective the way you asked the question left me confused as to what you were talking about. The forums makes it easier to understand because you could post the entire problem with a visual. Hence the reason no one may have had a response for you. Not because anyone was being rude.

Qwyn

What sort of range do approval fees usually cost? And how are the prices determined?

Dress A: Just silk, no gems, with a little bit of diamond dust (which I can harvest for free, so not an expensive material, right?). - 26k approval fee

Dress B: Silk and lace, studded with faceted obsidian beading - 14k approval fee

Do fees go much higher than mid-20k? I imagine they must, if you use gems as well? The costs are more expensive than I imagined, and I'm curing what the high-end is.

Aesi

Qwyn said:

What sort of range do approval fees usually cost? And how are the prices determined?

Dress A: Just silk, no gems, with a little bit of diamond dust (which I can harvest for free, so not an expensive material, right?). - 26k approval fee

Dress B: Silk and lace, studded with faceted obsidian beading - 14k approval fee

Do fees go much higher than mid-20k? I imagine they must, if you use gems as well? The costs are more expensive than I imagined, and I'm curing what the high-end is.

WHATCURES FASHION:

That is not a known affliction.

Qwyn

In a rejection, it states that something reads as "marketing material" - is this a term used here for crafting? What does it mean and how do I fix that?

Skye

First I've seen that in a rejection. It's probably easier if you just post the description or the line in question. 

Artemis

Qwyn said:

In a rejection, it states that something reads as "marketing material" - is this a term used here for crafting? What does it mean and how do I fix that?

What that usually means is that instead of describing the item you are designing for what it is, you are making it sound like marketing lingo - like an advertisement. 

In general, stick to factual description of the item and its components and you will be fine.

Kiet

Qwyn said:

What sort of range do approval fees usually cost? And how are the prices determined?

Dress A: Just silk, no gems, with a little bit of diamond dust (which I can harvest for free, so not an expensive material, right?). - 26k approval fee

Dress B: Silk and lace, studded with faceted obsidian beading - 14k approval fee

Do fees go much higher than mid-20k? I imagine they must, if you use gems as well? The costs are more expensive than I imagined, and I'm curing what the high-end is.

Silk is a pretty fancy fabric, despite how often everyone in Achaea seems to wear it! Also, diamond dust is still diamond dust. Everything is 'free' to gather in Achaea, doesn't mean it's actually free lore-wise.