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You're hot, then you're cold

BasileiosBasileios
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Song lyrics aside, the warmth system is pretty neat!

Though, I have a few ideas for how it could be improved for our fuzzy compatriots!

Rajamalan's should, easily, get an extra level or two of 'warmth' compared to their furless friends.  Satyrs?  Same schtick, except not nearly as much.  I wanna run around in only my kilt like I always have.  Maybe Xorani could get a level of uncovered if they're cold blooded (I'm not real sure if they actually are or not.. but they breath fire.. so maybe they should be warmer?)

Just in general, tweak levels of warmth based on races to be slightly more 'realistic' if we're going for that.  Oh, and being a Wyvern/Dragon who can breathe fire should make you totes warm enough for the arctic tundra.

Totes.

Any other suggestions are cool to put here.
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  • TrevizeTrevize
    I just want to see tornadoes already.

    That said, it would make sense for Rajamala to suffer more ill effects from warm weather and less from cold. The reverse for Xorani.

    Satyr I'm more iffy about.
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  • BasileiosBasileios
    Tornadoes unless That ritual of Storm Cleansing is done.  Otherwise say hello to like.  A tornado every 7 days Sapience.  I'll see your forests in a few weeks.
  • SenaSena
    There are no cold-blooded player races. If there were, then clothes wouldn't help much for keeping them warm.
  • TrevizeTrevize
    Sena said:
    There are no cold-blooded player races. If there were, then clothes wouldn't help much for keeping them warm.
    While true, Xorani are known for a weakness to cold/resistance to fire.
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  • KyrraKyrra Australia
    Aerek said:
    Armor should have its own respectable warmth factor. Plate armor is not known for being cool and breathable. Bonus points if mechanical effects ever go in, and I can pass out from wearing fullplate in the desert for too long.
    You got your wish with Weathering. You can run around naked for all you want and still get "Beads of sweat drip down your face, blurring your vision."

    It's just like living in Darwin or Florida with 98% humidity and no a/c. Whee.
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  • DortheronDortheron
    Does the "too hot" messages override area emotes? Because I want to hear my cities noise (or lack of it!)
    You know, that one thing at that one place, with that one person.

    Yea, that one!
  • TrevizeTrevize
    Dortheron said:
    Does the "too hot" messages override area emotes? Because I want to hear my cities noise (or lack of it!)
    Clearly you're going to need to strip.
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  • DortheronDortheron
    Trevize said:
    Dortheron said:
    Does the "too hot" messages override area emotes? Because I want to hear my cities noise (or lack of it!)
    Clearly you're going to need to strip.
    ...

    Are you coming onto me? :p
    You know, that one thing at that one place, with that one person.

    Yea, that one!
  • TrevizeTrevize
    Dortheron said:
    Trevize said:
    Dortheron said:
    Does the "too hot" messages override area emotes? Because I want to hear my cities noise (or lack of it!)
    Clearly you're going to need to strip.
    ...

    Are you coming onto me? :p
    You're the one saying your clothes are preventing you from enjoying the city!

    Kind of worries me, to be honest.
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  • SarathaiSarathai
    Anybody know if dragonform provides any consistent changes in your warmth level? Or is it still reliant on the clothes you're wearing, even if they can't actually be seen while dragonformed?

    It'd be weird for a red dragon to be walking around with summoned breath and burning people to ash with fire, while at the same time feeling cold.
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  • TrevizeTrevize
    Sarathai said:
    Anybody know if dragonform provides any consistent changes in your warmth level? Or is it still reliant on the clothes you're wearing, even if they can't actually be seen while dragonformed?

    It'd be weird for a red dragon to be walking around with summoned breath and burning people to ash with fire, while at the same time feeling cold.
    Reliant on clothes, from my limited testing.

    Re: red dragon. If you would stop throwing all your body heat at people in condensed bursts, you might be warmer!
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    You're yes then you're no
    You're in then you're out
    You're up then you're down
    You're wrong when it's right
    It's black and it's white
    We fight, we break up
    We kiss, we make up

    Relevant: I'm pretty sure you can make warmer loincloths and just throw on a cloak! Cloaks are super warm!

  • BasileiosBasileios
    edited August 2015
    I can't figure out how hot my grove is in the middle of the summer. :(

    The weather is imperceptible from here.

    Right outside it's like.  70.. with 26 MPH winds.

    Cyrene is 70 with 17 MPH winds.

    My grove is literally colder than Cyrene... And right outside of Cyrene it's 130 with like. 7 MPH winds.  Heck, all the way to Jaru and into the hills by Jaru were ridiculously hot.  130 F is death.  It is DEATH PEOPLE.  This is mid-summer :(

    Edit:  The air temperature around you is measured at 75 F.

    The apparent temperature is at a steady 75 F.

    The relative humidity is at 2%.

    The winds around you blow to the northeast at 59 mph.

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  • KatsuragiKatsuragi
    Beware the implementation of weather effects, I say. Beware!

    Lusternia has a wide range of horrendously inconvenient effects based on the weather, ranging from slowed movement speed to being consistently, passively afflicted with shivering.

    Part of me appreciates the immersion. But it's really frackin' annoying.
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  • PraxidesPraxides Kansas, USA
    Does Caloric defense provide extra warmth as per the defence line, "A feeling of comfortable warmth spreads over you."? Also being sweaty for a lengthy period of time should give us the stink affliction. ;)
  • BasileiosBasileios
    Dunno Praxides, but I just got slammed by tornado force winds near Harae and snapped my left arm and left leg splatting into the water from flying :(
  • ZukoZuko
    Xorani should be able to start campfires
  • AntoniusAntonius
    Aerek said:
    Armor should have its own respectable warmth factor. Plate armor is not known for being cool and breathable. Bonus points if mechanical effects ever go in, and I can pass out from wearing fullplate in the desert for too long.
    Weathering already increases how warmly you're dressed, not sure we need to add armour on top of that. In regards to mechanical effects, I really don't want to have to factor in the weather as part of combat.

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  • ShirszaeShirszae Santo Domingo
    I think it'd be pretty interesting, even if it was only very subtle things.

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    ...But you'll always follow the voices beneath.

  • TharvisTharvis The Land of Beer and Chocolate!
    campfires also seem to influence it, damn @Kaila making me get heatstrokes.
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  • TrevizeTrevize
    Tharvis said:
    campfires also seem to influence it, damn @Kaila making me get heatstrokes.
    I just want to know why 90 degree weather is making me sweat and bow in heat with just pants/shirt/trenchcoat on.

    I'm perfectly fine in that weather, and Trevize is a Xoran to boot.
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  • MorthifMorthif
    Because 90 is rather warm for a trenchcoat!
  • TrevizeTrevize
    Morthif said:
    Because 90 is rather warm for a trenchcoat!
    Disagree. 90 is perfect.
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  • BasileiosBasileios
    Trevize said:
    Tharvis said:
    campfires also seem to influence it, damn @Kaila making me get heatstrokes.
    I just want to know why 90 degree weather is making me sweat and bow in heat with just pants/shirt/trenchcoat on.

    I'm perfectly fine in that weather, and Trevize is a Xoran to boot.
    Don't worry.  I'm wearing nothing but a kilt in 90-130 weather in Achaea and I'm panting, sweating all over the place, and practically dying from the heat for some odd reason that Achaea apparently NEVER has cloud coverage.
  • KailaKaila
    Warmth  : under-dressed  

    The air temperature around you is measured at 100 F.
    The apparent temperature is at a steady 100 F.
    The relative humidity is at 28%.
    The winds around you blow to the north at 8 mph.

    Beads of sweat drip down your face, blurring your vision.
    The heat beats relentlessly against you, straining your movements.


    Yep, definitely under-dressed!
  • NaverreNaverre
    Kaila said:
    Warmth  : under-dressed  

    The air temperature around you is measured at 100 F.
    The apparent temperature is at a steady 100 F.
    The relative humidity is at 28%.
    The winds around you blow to the north at 8 mph.

    Beads of sweat drip down your face, blurring your vision.
    The heat beats relentlessly against you, straining your movements.


    Yep, definitely under-dressed!
    Right now the SCORE warmth is just how you're dressed by some objective standard, not by what the weather actually is at the moment. Would be nice if it could be changed to reflect how comfortable you're actually are.
  • TrevizeTrevize
    It seems a little strict. That type of heat isn't overwhelming dressed normally, let alone 'under dressed.'
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