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Why is this still a thing?
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Now, I screwed up because I have several forms of hard hinder I could've used between the impaleslash and Atalkez mangling my legs, but Shaman is likely the exception here, most classes simply aren't capable of hindering within that period of time. Furthermore, most classes don't even have the option of using an attack with a low enough balance to prevent prone impale whenever Blademaster feels like it.
This seems like a basically inescapable death for a class with one of the quickest prep in the game, why is this a thing?
Now, I screwed up because I have several forms of hard hinder I could've used between the impaleslash and Atalkez mangling my legs, but Shaman is likely the exception here, most classes simply aren't capable of hindering within that period of time. Furthermore, most classes don't even have the option of using an attack with a low enough balance to prevent prone impale whenever Blademaster feels like it.
This seems like a basically inescapable death for a class with one of the quickest prep in the game, why is this a thing?
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Run off, let them reset, continue the fight.
Penwize has cowardly forfeited the challenge to mortal combat issued by Atalkez.
Results of disembowel testing | Knight limb counter | GMCP AB files
That's a big if, considering how quickly BM preps compared to most classes. It's even worse when you consider that stopping BM from mangling the legs doesn't prevent them trying again immediately after these classes use a balance longer than 1.5 seconds, which is pretty much as soon as those classes start trying to have any kind of offense.
I think the biggest problem here is the ability for Blademasters to prone impale without using prep, the other method of using paralysis to obtain pre-impaleslash seems fine, as it's relatively easy to prevent that from happening while the BM maintains hamstring, and it doesn't mean even attempting trying to kill Blademasters means you risk dying to this.
Nothing imbalanced there.
Penwize has cowardly forfeited the challenge to mortal combat issued by Atalkez.
Again: pre-apply.
Serpent and Apostate having momentum going is a big if, considering he can leave at any time, come back in and do this on their first or second attack before they have a chance to get any hinder going.
Edit: Stop adding to your argument with edit. Damn. Apostate has a mana regain ability. Is it usable prone? Serpent? Who cares. They deserve death anyway (though if it was me, I would snap (cause panic in some) and start slinging illusions(can you even prone illusion? Who knows!)
Penwize has cowardly forfeited the challenge to mortal combat issued by Atalkez.
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Are you wanting to be able to take an Impaleslash and four bladetwists and not die? Buy Robes of the Magi.
Otherwise, that's like bitching that letting a SnB Runie break your torso>leg and one shot you with a disembowel is somehow a mechanical issue.
Penwize has cowardly forfeited the challenge to mortal combat issued by Atalkez.
You let me hamstring, time my pommel/prone perfectly, impale perfectly and slash perfectly.
Hamstring was going to drop in 1 second after you stood up. Any type of slowing me down would have given you the ability to run away with no issue. You couldn't get away because you still had hamstring.
Anyone who reacts and does something perfectly, is going to win. That's how combat works. You messed up, you died because of it. I'm not sure what you're missing here. You had skills to use, and you didn't use them. You attempted to leave instead of hinder me enough to allow you to leave, and it backfired.
Entirely escapable. That death was your fault 100%.
Penwize has cowardly forfeited the challenge to mortal combat issued by Atalkez.
Results of disembowel testing | Knight limb counter | GMCP AB files
I really don't see any realistic argument for the ability for Blademasters to get an impale off on someone else using balance still being in the game, considering how it can very easily lead to nearly inescapable situations for a large amount of classes, based only on them attempting any kind of offense.
I'm not sure what you're actually arguing about here any more.
If you want to have a "Delete Blademasters" thread, I'd say let's just go ahead and move this over to Rants.
There were 1.2 seconds between stand the leg breaks according to my timestamps.
From the log his balance was 1.4-1.5 if you account for latency.
He stood at 54:36.95 in my log, I legslash/proned at 54:38.28 -- so essentially a little over one second before I got balance back and sent my alias.
I hamstring at 54:30.28 - which means hamstring was .75 or so seconds away from dropping. If he had used bind on standing, he would have gotten away 100%.
Use your abilities wisely before complaining about game mechanics.
Penwize has cowardly forfeited the challenge to mortal combat issued by Atalkez.
Gotta pad these stats.
Penwize has cowardly forfeited the challenge to mortal combat issued by Atalkez.
The problem is many classes do not have the options available to them to prevent this. Tumble is perhaps the best in this scenario, but it's also extremely risky as well, and could be easily countered by Atalkez ending his impale before you tumble out and re-applying the impale before you get balance back from tumble to stand.
BM pommel/prone into impale is like the ultimate momentum stopper. Don't care about it for the pre-impale slash, but it's probably a problem for anyone that's primary attack is longer than pommel balance + .2 sec or so.
Mounting turns it into 3 strikes, hammy, dismount, then prone, but if they keep hamstring up, pretty much guarantees it as an option at any point in time.
Ez fix: don't let hamstring refresh the hamstring timer.
Not sure it's a big enough issue to change though. People just generally don't see mounting as a required defense these days.
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Blademaster having refreshable hamstring to permanently prevent mounting and walking, into 100% success rate of pre impaleslash by proning after the opponent uses any ability in their skillset, into a setup that is unavoidable if you go through it while under the effects of impaleslash = unfun, unbalanced kit with little to no counterplay.
I still don't get why they can recover balance before the target writhes off impale without any legs being broken.
Penwize has cowardly forfeited the challenge to mortal combat issued by Atalkez.
Penwize has cowardly forfeited the challenge to mortal combat issued by Atalkez.