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Cascades of quicksilver light streak across the firmament as the celestial voice of Ourania intones, "Oh Jarrod..."
I always avoid gambling promotions unless I think there's a pretty good "floor" built into them. It looks like Tecton has tried to build a somewhat better floor with his latest tweak (still feels gambly to me, not my style of promo).
Like you, if I bought, I'd almost exclusively try for level two. Actually, I'd see how many level 1s I got, then see how many I felt I could sacrifice to upgrade attempts and still come out at ~30% sale (considering Iron Elite bonus separately of course). Then, if I had extra bags, I'd try for level two (and likely no higher) - because it would be fun, and I might get some more credits. If I was really on a lucky streak, I might sacrifice some bags to try for level 3. At every stage, I'd probably be considering what I needed to set aside to still be at ~30% sale. And my credit purchases have often been ~2K credits, so we are talking about starting with at least ~40 bags, and that's how careful I'd be. Of course, it seems like I could easily end up never getting anywhere near 30% in the first place (which is exactly why I'd be unlikely to do a promo like this in the first place).
It's probably not greed with people though (okay it's greed) - but it's also probably impulsiveness. I mean, I always pass on the gambling promotions unless I can play them so they're almost not gambling at all, but this kind of promotion, it really is designed to be like fairy crack to a certain kind of person (although as things look right now, those people are going to need to hear a few more stories like Saeva's to tempt them).
Artemis says, "You are so high maintenance, Tharvis, gosh."
Tecton says, "It's still your fault, Tharvis."
You could also sell them for more than the tradein value, potentially at full price.
As a matter of fact, if you're going that route, your best bet might be to never even consider trying for higher than level 1 at all (even if you had extra bags and had in theory met a ~30% sale), because I do think the second hand market for the elixirs is probably better than for the mentioned artifacts, although I'm unsure of what people are willing to pay (but I am just guessing it's around 20 credits or less unless people go absolutely nuts over them - I do think there is a bit of that with the lucky elixirs). People probably aren't going to pay much more than ~20 credits for the artifacts you might get at level 2 (assuming anyone is even interested), and you'd have to assume extra risk. So the good thing is that you can just upgrade everything to level 1 and not even worry about trying to go further (but... even that isn't necessarily going so well for people from the looks of it).
But then comes the part I've done exactly once and never want to do again, especially for a bunch of small items. And that is hanging out on market and trying to sell the stuff. I always put up ads too, but as people have noted from time to time, Achaeans are pretty unreliable in their ad reading.
If I could just price it and put it up on a tradeable artifact market (which I can elsewhere in IRE), it wouldn't be too bad. But sitting around trying to sell a bunch of smaller items (and haggling with people *shudder*) honestly sounds like sheer hell. I only had to do it for a few much bigger ticket items in the Conclave promo and didn't enjoy it much. Speaking of Conclave though, that one did actually seem like one you could play fairly safe if you weren't too impulsive/greedy.
Actually, your best bet would possibly be to sell all of your original giftbags (untouched) to someone who is a gambling fiend (like Trey) :P
upgraded bag to level 2, tried to upgrade it again went back toy a level 1 bag
Yeah, I sort of wondered. I appreciate the insight on it. In Achaea, I think some players would be excited about a faceless trading interface, while a possibly even larger number would decry it for being just that. It probably truly isn't a slam dunk here.
Well, yes. And the thing is, ALL of the trades from a promotion are actually OOC trades happening in game. You are trading items you purchased with real life dollars with other players... but, you're sort of doing it with the character too? To add to the murkiness, crowns, for example, can be procured in game through the use of ships. The item is very much an "OOC" type currency however.
Sitting in Cyrene, I doubt I'd have to worry about being taken to task over a transaction that truly is OOC (trading items purchased with RL dollars) - and I'd argue just that if it came to it, and, I imagine, win. But, it would be pretty unpleasant, and probably have consequences even if you did win (which I do think/hope you would). It's also something I can imagine being more of a possibility as the orgs become more polarized in game and perhaps some over-eager official might consider it a grave offense. Honestly, THAT is probably the most compelling argument to consider an artefact item market (at least for items purchased with RL dollars if not for all artefact/credit type items).
In regards to these bags, they annoyed me greatly. Not buying anymore for the month. Of my 5 total (counting the freeby) I had -one- bag make it to the first upgrade. All the others failed on the very first attempt. So I'm done for this month. At least I'm good on inks for a while..(?)
I feel obligated to agree with other people though. I would've much rather gotten some racing tickets out of these bags, either a chance pre-upgrade or a chance on upgrade one (which wouldn't have affected me too much..) I flipped when I found out I had two tickets just... sitting there in Limbo that had been apparently given to everyone a while back. Went out and won 200 bounds on one and lost on the other. I like the tickets... gives me something to shout at and hope for.