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THE BEST

JovoloJovolo EnglandPosts: 3,148Member @@ - Legendary Achaean
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Top 5 best of all time, 
Top 5 current best, 
Best in each class of all time, 
Best currently in each class. 

:^) 

And go. 

(I'll post my list later)
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  • RomRom Posts: 522Member ✭✭✭✭✭ - Grand Achaean
    edited April 2015
    Jovolo said:

    Apostate: Mizik

    Bard: Mizik

    Blademaster: Mizik

    Druid: Mizik

    Jester: Mizik

    Infernal: Mizik

    Magi: Mizik

    Monk: Mizik

    Occultist: Mizik

    Paladin: Mizik

    Priest: Mizik

    Runewarden: Mizik

    Shaman: Mizik

    Sentinel: Mizik

    Serpent: Mizik

    Sylvan: Mizik


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  • JovoloJovolo EnglandPosts: 3,148Member @@ - Legendary Achaean
    You're missing:

    1. Mizik
    2. Mizik
    3. Mizik
    4. Mizik
    5. Fez
  • SeftinSeftin Posts: 923Member @ - Epic Achaean
    Everyones relatively shit at combat.
  • KafzielKafziel Posts: 658Member ✭✭✭✭✭ - Grand Achaean
    edited April 2015
    Nice of you to name a thread after me, @Jovolo
    Alcinae
  • TreyTrey Posts: 4,693Member @@ - Legendary Achaean
    Best of all time is very hard to gauge only because of the level of curing we see now. I remember @Cain being terrifying as a Serpent, but then I remember playing during a time when having a paralysis trigger and sipping automatically meant you were the shit.

    AuromPrythe
  • SantarSantar Posts: 2,382Member @@ - Legendary Achaean
    Took me forever to figure out how to sip automatically on Zmud. But once I did, man, damage classes were cake.

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    AuromPrythe
  • AntidasAntidas Posts: 1,479Member @@ - Legendary Achaean
    Jovolo said:
    You're missing:

    5. Fez
    RIP

  • MizikMizik Posts: 2,074Member @@ - Legendary Achaean
    edited April 2015
    Jovolo said:
    Name: 

    Top 5 best of all time
    1. Tanris
    2. Jhui
    3. Mizik
    4. Santar
    5. Tirac

    Top 5 current best
    1. Jhui
    2. Mizik
    3. Santar
    4. Xinna
    5. Seragorn

    Best in each class of all time
    Best currently in each class. 



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    AustereAtalkez
  • DaeirDaeir AustraliaPosts: 6,276Member @@ - Legendary Achaean
    Clearly you've never seen Mizik fight. I don't know anyone else who can swap classes and be killing someone with impunity using a non-standard strat an hour later.

    Mizik4lyfe.
  • MishgulMishgul ROTHERHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAMPosts: 5,314Member @@ - Legendary Achaean
    Best what. Best buddies?

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    One of the symptoms of an approaching nervous breakdown is the belief that one's work is terribly important

    As drawn by Shayde
    hic locus est ubi mors gaudet succurrere vitae
  • SarapisSarapis Posts: 3,397Member, Administrator Achaean staff
    No, not best buddies. Something much more sacred, apparently. Best bros.


    MishgulMultonQuisseUtianima
  • SaevaSaeva Posts: 1,939Member @@ - Legendary Achaean
    Let me set the mood for you.


    MishgulUtianima
  • JovoloJovolo EnglandPosts: 3,148Member @@ - Legendary Achaean
    Sarapis said:
    I'd agree with @Trey and say a meaningful comparison is impossible. There's no comparing people fighting with auto-curing and full systems to people manual-ing. The two are different games, and there's a huge spectrum in between. Some of you good with systems would have gotten crushed in the earlier days, and the reverse is equally true. 

    The other problem is that 'the game' has changed immensely. It's not like baseball or something, where a rule change that is impactful comes along only every decade or two. 

    This is true, but there are also people that managed to compete in both eras. Carmain, Jhui, Rangor and Santar come to mind. Although perhaps not of the "true" manual era, we're speaking a difference in automation level of a decade
  • SantarSantar Posts: 2,382Member @@ - Legendary Achaean
    Think you've got the Santar/Mizik combo inverted in those lists.

    Otherwise, pretty good list.

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  • NakariNakari Posts: 596Member ✭✭✭✭✭ - Grand Achaean
    Even if a true comparison of skill isn't possible, I think it's interesting to see how people's legacies continue, and that's as much what something like this shows.

    Multon
  • TaelTael Posts: 1,197Member @ - Epic Achaean
    edited April 2015
    Sarapis said:
    Some of you good with systems would have gotten crushed in the earlier days
    What was it about the early days that would have gotten system people crushed? It seems like it would just have been an even larger advantage back then.

    I thought it was just more that there were not such people with so much sophistication (probably related to the fact that clients weren't as easy to make complex systems in either).
  • TahquilTahquil Posts: 4,080Member @@ - Legendary Achaean
    Seragorn would beat Tanris for Occultist?
  • JovoloJovolo EnglandPosts: 3,148Member @@ - Legendary Achaean
    edited April 2015
    Seragorn is only in the current lists, Tanris would take the all time spot. Especially if we're talking about old occultist - Tanris didn't try the new Occultist as he'd already left so it's hard to compare the two in terms of who would perform best nowadays.

    My lists-

    Top 5 of all time: (Judged by how good they were in their time, so relative skill and knowledge)
    1. Manu 
    2. Dumah
    3. Rennyn
    4. Carmain
    5. Jarrel

    (Very honourable mentions - Santar, Jhui, Mizik, Tanris, Rameus)

    Current top 5 (in terms of knowledge/skill/execution):
    1. Jhui
    2. Santar
    3. Mizik (I put Santar above if Mizik is still Serpent, otherwise not sure)
    4. Ayoxele
    5. Xinna
  • MishgulMishgul ROTHERHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAMPosts: 5,314Member @@ - Legendary Achaean
    Don't think you can compare them. Different times, different mechanics. Tanris would probably have run out of herbs/vials mid duel also, like he usually does.

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    One of the symptoms of an approaching nervous breakdown is the belief that one's work is terribly important

    As drawn by Shayde
    hic locus est ubi mors gaudet succurrere vitae
  • TahquilTahquil Posts: 4,080Member @@ - Legendary Achaean
    and then he'll be like "Uh, out of curatives.. better stop playing about" and kill you.
    Prythe
  • OgnogOgnog Posts: 284Member ✭✭✭✭ - Eminent
    There are a couple of names that seem to be missing from the all time rankings people are coming out with, though I don't know where they fit. Poergh and Tekumza come to mind.

    Tanris at the top is indisputable.

  • MishgulMishgul ROTHERHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAMPosts: 5,314Member @@ - Legendary Achaean
    I never had many problems against Tanris but he did play a crap class I guess and did well raiding.

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    One of the symptoms of an approaching nervous breakdown is the belief that one's work is terribly important

    As drawn by Shayde
    hic locus est ubi mors gaudet succurrere vitae
  • JovoloJovolo EnglandPosts: 3,148Member @@ - Legendary Achaean
    Poergh might make it into a top 20 or top 30 of all time list, but I don't think they'd break top 5. Tanris at the very top of 1v1 is disputable imo, but he'd walk onto any top raiders of all time list with ease. 
    OgnogChiam
  • MishgulMishgul ROTHERHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAMPosts: 5,314Member @@ - Legendary Achaean
    Poergh was okay but she did have more ents than the average occie. That one that impaled was the worst.

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    One of the symptoms of an approaching nervous breakdown is the belief that one's work is terribly important

    As drawn by Shayde
    hic locus est ubi mors gaudet succurrere vitae
    OgnogMizik
  • MishgulMishgul ROTHERHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAMPosts: 5,314Member @@ - Legendary Achaean
    Hermes used vengeance. Secret necromancer.

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    One of the symptoms of an approaching nervous breakdown is the belief that one's work is terribly important

    As drawn by Shayde
    hic locus est ubi mors gaudet succurrere vitae
    JonathinBorran
  • OgnogOgnog Posts: 284Member ✭✭✭✭ - Eminent
    edited April 2015
    Jovolo said:
    Tanris at the very top of 1v1 is disputable imo, but he'd walk onto any top raiders of all time list with ease. 
    I guess saying something is indisputable is just asking for someone to dispute it, haha!

    It's definitely his raiding prowess that I was thinking of.

    I'm really hoping Tanris' soul is still among us somehow. So hope he didn't just hang up his waterwalking boots and walk away.

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