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New changes to LOOK

TarausTaraus The Gypsy WindMember, Seafaring Liason Posts: 890 @@ - Legendary Achaean
edited March 2015 in North of Thera

New changes to LOOK 77 votes

Prefer the new change and categorising
41%
SarapisCooperExelethrilKresslackZeonHalosAepasMasarykOgnogKyriellaKaraiTeshaInvictusVenserDarktalonCaoimhaenOrzaansynSiduriTarazaNaverre 32 votes
Prefer the old style of worn items appearing
42%
AchillesJurixeKyrraTreyVeldrinRispokAradorAitoxJarrodYenHavynKryptonDeladanHasarHerenicusSybillaBluefMarinaKayeilFaur 33 votes
No preference
15%
AntidasMishgulTharvisJonathinSantarRomBronislavHaldonDaeirAvtoAchimrstMerador 12 votes
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Comments

  • TarausTaraus The Gypsy WindMember, Seafaring Liason Posts: 890 @@ - Legendary Achaean
    First and foremost, I want to acknowledge the time and effort that went into this, and simply thank the admin for listening to the community's request for a change - that the volunteers are willing to take the time to adjust and cater to the suggestions of the playerbase is really, really appreciated.

    And now that I'm done my initial hysterical knee-jerk reaction in the ranting thread, I will attempt for some form of constructive feedback.

    Also the poll is curiosity, to find out if I am part of a vocal minority, which may very well be the case, and if so, I will simply sit myself in the back row and cease waving my arms so vigorously.

    Regarding the new system, the following changes/suggestions come to mind:

    • The glaring container separation and highlighting seems a very bad idea (go ahead and hate me now, thieves).
    • Bring back, in some capacity, pierced jewellery acknowledging where it is being worn.
    • Given that a large part of what the community was looking (I think) for was an ability to tweak and highlight 'special' items, maybe allow each adventurer an 'items of interest' category, and allow them the ability to flag a set number of items of any given type to appear in this group (maybe five total?).
    • I would suggest moving the actual  "clothing" items down, so they're the last thing to appear in the breakdown, and therefore the easiest to see when glancing at someone. I know many people change their clothes frequently, especially in preparation for planned 'events', and it makes sense (to me, at least) to have this be the most accessible part of one's description.
    And I am sure I'm not the only one with potential suggestions, changes, etc to the new system.

    SaevaMarina
  • TrillianaTrilliana Member Posts: 1,989 @@ - Legendary Achaean
    Literally, my ONLY complaint is my bajillion vials and how with even with pagelength 25, it takes up MORE than my entire screen.

    So I like both
    meh


  • SkyeSkye The Duchess BellatereMember, Seafaring Liason Posts: 3,082 @@ - Legendary Achaean
    edited March 2015
    The list takes up the entire length of my screen and that's when I'm playing on my larger 22" monitor. I'd hate to see what it does to a smaller laptop or someone using the phone/tablet.

    If you're determined to hold on to this arrangement, I'd like to see INV be distinguished between INVH(ELD) and INVW(ORN), because sometimes we just want to see what we're holding and don't care about what we're wearing. the layout just makes it TMI.

    Also, please fix the vials being like you are holding:
    a crystal vial, a crystal vial, a crystal vial, a crystal vial, a crystal vial, a crystal vial, a crystal vial, a crystal vial, a crystal vial, a crystal vial, a crystal vial, a crystal vial, a crystal vial, a crystal vial, a crystal vial, a crystal vial, a crystal vial, a crystal vial, a crystal vial, a crystal vial, a crystal vial, a crystal vial, a crystal vial, a crystal vial, a crystal vial, a crystal vial, a crystal vial, a crystal vial, a crystal vial, a crystal vial, a crystal vial, a crystal vial, a crystal vial, a crystal vial, a crystal vial, a crystal vial, a crystal vial, a crystal vial, a crystal vial, a crystal vial, a crystal vial, a crystal vial, a crystal vial, a crystal vial

    That contains nearly no pertinent information and just adds to the spam.



  • TahquilTahquil Member Posts: 4,410 @@ - Legendary Achaean
    I put my contributions int the dais thread already :(
  • HalosHalos San FranciscoMember Posts: 1,473 @@ - Legendary Achaean
    Prefer the new change and categorising
    Skye said:
    The list takes up the entire length of my screen and that's when I'm playing on my larger 22" monitor. I'd hate to see what it does to a smaller laptop or someone using the phone/tablet.

    If you're determined to hold on to this arrangement, I'd like to see INV be distinguished between INVH(ELD) and INVW(ORN), because sometimes we just want to see what we're holding and don't care about what we're wearing. the layout just makes it TMI.

    Also, please fix the vials being like you are holding:
    a crystal vial, a crystal vial, a crystal vial, a crystal vial, a crystal vial, a crystal vial, a crystal vial, a crystal vial, a crystal vial, a crystal vial, a crystal vial, a crystal vial, a crystal vial, a crystal vial, a crystal vial, a crystal vial, a crystal vial, a crystal vial, a crystal vial, a crystal vial, a crystal vial, a crystal vial, a crystal vial, a crystal vial, a crystal vial, a crystal vial, a crystal vial, a crystal vial, a crystal vial, a crystal vial, a crystal vial, a crystal vial, a crystal vial, a crystal vial, a crystal vial, a crystal vial, a crystal vial, a crystal vial, a crystal vial, a crystal vial, a crystal vial, a crystal vial, a crystal vial, a crystal vial

    That contains nearly no pertinent information and just adds to the spam.

    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Curing aides:
    A polished brass tinderbox, a jewel-encrusted silver tinderbox, 6 oaken vials, 4 elegant diamond vials, 2 quartz crystal vials, 10 black-walnut vials, a cedarwood vial, a sapphire crystal vial, an amethyst vial, 2 peridot vials, 3 cedarwood vials, 2 teakwood vials, 3 chestnut vials, 2 maplewood vials, 3 sycamore vials, a glass vial, 2 ebony vials, a black glass vial, a fairy-shaped amber vial, a cherry wood vial, an oaken vial, an ornately carved ivory pipe, a polished marble pipe, and an inlaid ebony pipe.


    CaoimhaenSkye
  • TahquilTahquil Member Posts: 4,410 @@ - Legendary Achaean
    I don't like the ------------------------------
    It takes up extra space and it always seem way to short to my actual line length making it look messy.
    Sybilla
  • KlendathuKlendathu Eye of the StormMember Posts: 3,178 @@ - Legendary Achaean
    Prefer the new change and categorising
    Tahquil said:
    I don't like the ------------------------------
    It takes up extra space and it always seem way to short to my actual line length making it look messy.
    Gag it. (The line, not yourself. Or maybe yourself not the line. Or perhaps both. But probably best just gag me)

    Tharos, the Announcer of Delos shouts, "It's near the end of the egghunt and I still haven't figured out how to pronounce Clean-dat-hoo."
    HalosKresslack
  • HalosHalos San FranciscoMember Posts: 1,473 @@ - Legendary Achaean
    Prefer the new change and categorising
    gagging the lines keeps my whole inventory in my window without having to scroll up

    I'm not walking around with tons of seafaring gear or wearing 4x10^3 pieces of jewellery though. @Taraus 

  • TharvisTharvis The Land of Beer and Chocolate!Member Posts: 3,107 @@ - Legendary Achaean
    No preference
    the seafaring gear not stacking is probably a small glitch, really
    Aurora says, "Tharvis, why are you always breaking things?!"
    Artemis says, "You are so high maintenance, Tharvis, gosh."
    Tecton says, "It's still your fault, Tharvis."

  • CaoimhaenCaoimhaen TargossasMember Posts: 800 @ - Epic Achaean
    Prefer the new change and categorising
    I line it, but my vitals are taking up a huge part as @Skye  said and also, artefacts are really weird how they appear in the inventory list.  Maybe we should just have a separate section for those. I dunno

  • TitonusTitonus Youngstown, OhioMember Posts: 238 ✭✭✭✭ - Eminent
    Prefer the old style of worn items appearing
    Set this up like score 1, score 2, etc. please. 

    YaeMerador
  • KlendathuKlendathu Eye of the StormMember Posts: 3,178 @@ - Legendary Achaean
    Prefer the new change and categorising
    There's a few bugs, like artefact rings not being listed as jewellery, but I like it.

    Tharos, the Announcer of Delos shouts, "It's near the end of the egghunt and I still haven't figured out how to pronounce Clean-dat-hoo."
  • KhaibitKhaibit Member Posts: 375 ✭✭✭✭ - Eminent
    edited March 2015
    Prefer the old style of worn items appearing
    Is there a way to turn it off?
    my I is now too long for me, I kept the items in my inventory limited so that it didn't take up much space to look at with I used I(inv) and now it takes up a page again with the giant sections. 


    Also.. 
    Misc:
    A glacial sapphire brooch, a simple circlet of beaten gold, a small brazen hair dagger, an 
    alchemist's talisman, a simple silver necklace, and a gold pendant.

    I am wearing these things, why are they in misc? Some of them are artifacts, but the rest of my worn artifacts are in worn. And the dagger and the necklace aren't arties.. but they are still being worn by me


  • KhaibitKhaibit Member Posts: 375 ✭✭✭✭ - Eminent
    edited March 2015
    Prefer the old style of worn items appearing
    Also II blah seems to have broken
    II corpse does nothing

    II RING

    https://ada-young.appspot.com/pastebin/ae3d40b2

    my underwear is not a ring!!


    Halos
  • KayeilKayeil Washington StateMember Posts: 2,824 @@ - Legendary Achaean
    Prefer the old style of worn items appearing
    I'd really like a config option to choose the older style. This big change is a bit much. I had my inventory and stuff put in a very specific order, and this is really bothering my OCD tendencies. Like... I am honestly not sure how to even work with this. It just looks like a big mess and takes up even more space.
    What doesn't kill you gives you exp.

    Khaibit
  • TreyTrey Member Posts: 4,800 @@ - Legendary Achaean
    Prefer the old style of worn items appearing
    I'm torn. I -hate- the new change to INV, but I'm pretty happy with INFO INV/II.

    Morthif
  • MishgulMishgul ROTHERHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAMMember Posts: 5,372 @@ - Legendary Achaean
    No preference
    I check my inventory once every 3 or 4 weeks i guess. Not really phased by the change.

    -

    One of the symptoms of an approaching nervous breakdown is the belief that one's work is terribly important

    As drawn by Shayde
    hic locus est ubi mors gaudet succurrere vitae
  • KhaibitKhaibit Member Posts: 375 ✭✭✭✭ - Eminent
    Prefer the old style of worn items appearing
    Trey said:
    I'm torn. I -hate- the new change to INV, but I'm pretty happy with INFO INV/II.
    same, ii is pretty nice.. but inv is just so damned big
    Sorry guys, bigger isn't always better, no matter what porn tells you


    Nim
  • KlendathuKlendathu Eye of the StormMember Posts: 3,178 @@ - Legendary Achaean
    Prefer the new change and categorising
    Khaibit said:
    Is there a way to turn it off?
    my I is now too long for me, I kept the items in my inventory limited so that it didn't take up much space to look at with I used I(inv) and now it takes up a page again with the giant sections. 
    There is now... http://forums.achaea.com/discussion/3339/mudlet-inventory-rejig

    Tharos, the Announcer of Delos shouts, "It's near the end of the egghunt and I still haven't figured out how to pronounce Clean-dat-hoo."
  • KhaibitKhaibit Member Posts: 375 ✭✭✭✭ - Eminent
    Prefer the old style of worn items appearing
    I love Klendathu, he's made me happy


    Klendathu
  • HalosHalos San FranciscoMember Posts: 1,473 @@ - Legendary Achaean
    Prefer the new change and categorising
    Klendathu said:
    Khaibit said:
    Is there a way to turn it off?
    my I is now too long for me, I kept the items in my inventory limited so that it didn't take up much space to look at with I used I(inv) and now it takes up a page again with the giant sections. 
    There is now... http://forums.achaea.com/discussion/3339/mudlet-inventory-rejig
    'inv old' and 'ii old' are now a thing.

    If it still bothers you, quick aliases to that and you're back to how it used to be.


    Kayeil
  • SanekSanek Member Posts: 40 ✭✭ - Stalwart
    With a bit of tweaking and bugfixing it might be an improvement, at the moment I find it difficult to say, some parts are nice, some just make no sense
    Melodie
  • SeftinSeftin Member Posts: 923 @ - Epic Achaean
    Prefer the old style of worn items appearing
    I have just stopped using look and inventory. Very simple solution.
  • HalosHalos San FranciscoMember Posts: 1,473 @@ - Legendary Achaean
    Prefer the new change and categorising
    Halos said:
    Klendathu said:
    Khaibit said:
    Is there a way to turn it off?
    my I is now too long for me, I kept the items in my inventory limited so that it didn't take up much space to look at with I used I(inv) and now it takes up a page again with the giant sections. 
    'inv old' and 'ii old' are now a thing.

    If it still bothers you, quick aliases to that and you're back to how it used to be.


  • GerasGeras Member Posts: 28 ✭✭✭ - Distinguished
    Prefer the new change and categorising
    I like the new look. There are some obvious issues with how items are being categorized, such as weapons showing on equipped and then also on misc, or issues like i/ii corpse not showing anything, but I believe they will all be fixed soon and it's gonna be great. :sunglasses: 

    KerriaSiduri
  • AktillumAktillum PhilippinesMember Posts: 1,368 @@ - Legendary Achaean
    I like it. Within 5 seconds of seeing the new look, I immediately IDEA'd that arrows be groupable because of the sheer spam I encountered from all my un-quivered arrows, but now they appear to be grouped so all is good in life.

    SiduriOgnog
  • OgnogOgnog Member Posts: 284 ✭✭✭✭ - Eminent
    Prefer the new change and categorising
    Adjusting to change always takes some time. We're all used to it looking a certain way, and now it looks different. In time, we'll get used to how it looks now, and be able to find things more quickly due to the categorization. Best not to judge the changes right away. See how you feel after a few weeks.

  • AchimrstAchimrst NatureMember Posts: 3,608 @@ - Legendary Achaean
    No preference
    I just wanted to say, that like I saw someone in ranting mention I would just like the option to see thing all on one line. It's just easier for me then looking through a blob of letters and commas to find what I'm looking for. Also, since they are in categories now can we LOOK <player> <category>? That would be neat, or even II <category>?
    Ognog
  • NizanaNizana Member Posts: 68 ✭✭✭ - Distinguished
    Prefer the new change and categorising
    ii old doesn't really work, unless I am doing it wrong, cause it just searched for 'old' with the ii command... but I love the changes, especially since you can just i old to look at it the old way. Also, wewt, Chaos Mutations are now a slightly different shade of bolded white. I can now see, real quick-like, how odd-looking I am and RP appropriately.

    I can see how it would get really spammy, though... but then again, no less spammy than typing SCORE FULL, as opposed to just SCORE. I'll likely utilize i old  and equally.

  • BluefBluef DelosMember Posts: 2,176 @@ - Legendary Achaean
    edited March 2015
    Prefer the old style of worn items appearing
    Over 20 lines of text when you LOOK at someone? Please Gods, no. Change it back to how it was or allow us to toggle this thing on/off.

    Edit: It doesn't even show that I'm wearing items that I AM WEARING.
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