New changes to LOOK

Taraus

Taraus

First and foremost, I want to acknowledge the time and effort that went into this, and simply thank the admin for listening to the community's request for a change - that the volunteers are willing to take the time to adjust and cater to the suggestions of the playerbase is really, really appreciated.

And now that I'm done my initial hysterical knee-jerk reaction in the ranting thread, I will attempt for some form of constructive feedback.

Also the poll is curiosity, to find out if I am part of a vocal minority, which may very well be the case, and if so, I will simply sit myself in the back row and cease waving my arms so vigorously.

Regarding the new system, the following changes/suggestions come to mind:

• The glaring container separation and highlighting seems a very bad idea (go ahead and hate me now, thieves).

• Bring back, in some capacity, pierced jewellery acknowledging where it is being worn.

• Given that a large part of what the community was looking (I think) for was an ability to tweak and highlight 'special' items, maybe allow each adventurer an 'items of interest' category, and allow them the ability to flag a set number of items of any given type to appear in this group (maybe five total?).

• I would suggest moving the actual  "clothing" items down, so they're the last thing to appear in the breakdown, and therefore the easiest to see when glancing at someone. I know many people change their clothes frequently, especially in preparation for planned 'events', and it makes sense (to me, at least) to have this be the most accessible part of one's description.

And I am sure I'm not the only one with potential suggestions, changes, etc to the new system.

Trilliana

Literally, my ONLY complaint is my bajillion vials and how with even with pagelength 25, it takes up MORE than my entire screen.

So I like both

Skye

The list takes up the entire length of my screen and that's when I'm playing on my larger 22" monitor. I'd hate to see what it does to a smaller laptop or someone using the phone/tablet.

If you're determined to hold on to this arrangement, I'd like to see INV be distinguished between INVH(ELD) and INVW(ORN), because sometimes we just want to see what we're holding and don't care about what we're wearing. the layout just makes it TMI.

Also, please fix the vials being like you are holding:

a crystal vial, a crystal vial, a crystal vial, a crystal vial, a crystal vial, a crystal vial, a crystal vial, a crystal vial, a crystal vial, a crystal vial, a crystal vial, a crystal vial, a crystal vial, a crystal vial, a crystal vial, a crystal vial, a crystal vial, a crystal vial, a crystal vial, a crystal vial, a crystal vial, a crystal vial, a crystal vial, a crystal vial, a crystal vial, a crystal vial, a crystal vial, a crystal vial, a crystal vial, a crystal vial, a crystal vial, a crystal vial, a crystal vial, a crystal vial, a crystal vial, a crystal vial, a crystal vial, a crystal vial, a crystal vial, a crystal vial, a crystal vial, a crystal vial, a crystal vial, a crystal vial

That contains nearly no pertinent information and just adds to the spam.

Tahquil

I put my contributions int the dais thread already

Halos

Skye said:

The list takes up the entire length of my screen and that's when I'm playing on my larger 22" monitor. I'd hate to see what it does to a smaller laptop or someone using the phone/tablet.

If you're determined to hold on to this arrangement, I'd like to see INV be distinguished between INVH(ELD) and INVW(ORN), because sometimes we just want to see what we're holding and don't care about what we're wearing. the layout just makes it TMI.

Also, please fix the vials being like you are holding:

a crystal vial, a crystal vial, a crystal vial, a crystal vial, a crystal vial, a crystal vial, a crystal vial, a crystal vial, a crystal vial, a crystal vial, a crystal vial, a crystal vial, a crystal vial, a crystal vial, a crystal vial, a crystal vial, a crystal vial, a crystal vial, a crystal vial, a crystal vial, a crystal vial, a crystal vial, a crystal vial, a crystal vial, a crystal vial, a crystal vial, a crystal vial, a crystal vial, a crystal vial, a crystal vial, a crystal vial, a crystal vial, a crystal vial, a crystal vial, a crystal vial, a crystal vial, a crystal vial, a crystal vial, a crystal vial, a crystal vial, a crystal vial, a crystal vial, a crystal vial, a crystal vial

That contains nearly no pertinent information and just adds to the spam.

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Curing aides:

A polished brass tinderbox, a jewel-encrusted silver tinderbox, 6 oaken vials, 4 elegant diamond vials, 2 quartz crystal vials, 10 black-walnut vials, a cedarwood vial, a sapphire crystal vial, an amethyst vial, 2 peridot vials, 3 cedarwood vials, 2 teakwood vials, 3 chestnut vials, 2 maplewood vials, 3 sycamore vials, a glass vial, 2 ebony vials, a black glass vial, a fairy-shaped amber vial, a cherry wood vial, an oaken vial, an ornately carved ivory pipe, a polished marble pipe, and an inlaid ebony pipe.

Tahquil

I don't like the ------------------------------
It takes up extra space and it always seem way to short to my actual line length making it look messy.

Klendathu

Tahquil said:

I don't like the ------------------------------
It takes up extra space and it always seem way to short to my actual line length making it look messy.

Gag it. (The line, not yourself. Or maybe yourself not the line. Or perhaps both. But probably best just gag me)

Halos

gagging the lines keeps my whole inventory in my window without having to scroll up

I'm not walking around with tons of seafaring gear or wearing 4x10^3 pieces of jewellery though. @Taraus

Tharvis

the seafaring gear not stacking is probably a small glitch, really

Caoimhaen

I line it, but my vitals are taking up a huge part as @Skye  said and also, artefacts are really weird how they appear in the inventory list.  Maybe we should just have a separate section for those. I dunno

Titonus

Set this up like score 1, score 2, etc. please. 

Klendathu

There's a few bugs, like artefact rings not being listed as jewellery, but I like it.

Khaibit

Is there a way to turn it off?
my I is now too long for me, I kept the items in my inventory limited so that it didn't take up much space to look at with I used I(inv) and now it takes up a page again with the giant sections. 


Also.. 

Misc:

A glacial sapphire brooch, a simple circlet of beaten gold, a small brazen hair dagger, an 

alchemist's talisman, a simple silver necklace, and a gold pendant.

I am wearing these things, why are they in misc? Some of them are artifacts, but the rest of my worn artifacts are in worn. And the dagger and the necklace aren't arties.. but they are still being worn by me

Khaibit

Also II blah seems to have broken
II corpse does nothing

II RING

https://ada-young.appspot.com/pastebin/ae3d40b2

my underwear is not a ring!!

Kayeil

I'd really like a config option to choose the older style. This big change is a bit much. I had my inventory and stuff put in a very specific order, and this is really bothering my OCD tendencies. Like... I am honestly not sure how to even work with this. It just looks like a big mess and takes up even more space.

Trey

I'm torn. I -hate- the new change to INV, but I'm pretty happy with INFO INV/II.

Mishgul

I check my inventory once every 3 or 4 weeks i guess. Not really phased by the change.

Khaibit

Trey said:

I'm torn. I -hate- the new change to INV, but I'm pretty happy with INFO INV/II.

same, ii is pretty nice.. but inv is just so damned big
Sorry guys, bigger isn't always better, no matter what porn tells you

Klendathu

Khaibit said:

Is there a way to turn it off?
my I is now too long for me, I kept the items in my inventory limited so that it didn't take up much space to look at with I used I(inv) and now it takes up a page again with the giant sections. 

There is now... http://forums.achaea.com/discussion/3339/mudlet-inventory-rejig

Khaibit

I love Klendathu, he's made me happy

Halos

Klendathu said:

Khaibit said:

Is there a way to turn it off?
my I is now too long for me, I kept the items in my inventory limited so that it didn't take up much space to look at with I used I(inv) and now it takes up a page again with the giant sections. 

There is now... http://forums.achaea.com/discussion/3339/mudlet-inventory-rejig

'inv old' and 'ii old' are now a thing.

If it still bothers you, quick aliases to that and you're back to how it used to be.

Sanek

With a bit of tweaking and bugfixing it might be an improvement, at the moment I find it difficult to say, some parts are nice, some just make no sense

Seftin

I have just stopped using look and inventory. Very simple solution.

Halos

Halos said:

Klendathu said:

Khaibit said:

Is there a way to turn it off?
my I is now too long for me, I kept the items in my inventory limited so that it didn't take up much space to look at with I used I(inv) and now it takes up a page again with the giant sections. 

'inv old' and 'ii old' are now a thing.

If it still bothers you, quick aliases to that and you're back to how it used to be.

Geras

I like the new look. There are some obvious issues with how items are being categorized, such as weapons showing on equipped and then also on misc, or issues like i/ii corpse not showing anything, but I believe they will all be fixed soon and it's gonna be great.  

Aktillum

I like it. Within 5 seconds of seeing the new look, I immediately IDEA'd that arrows be groupable because of the sheer spam I encountered from all my un-quivered arrows, but now they appear to be grouped so all is good in life.

Ognog

Adjusting to change always takes some time. We're all used to it looking a certain way, and now it looks different. In time, we'll get used to how it looks now, and be able to find things more quickly due to the categorization. Best not to judge the changes right away. See how you feel after a few weeks.

Achimrst

I just wanted to say, that like I saw someone in ranting mention I would just like the option to see thing all on one line. It's just easier for me then looking through a blob of letters and commas to find what I'm looking for. Also, since they are in categories now can we LOOK <player> <category>? That would be neat, or even II <category>?

Nizana

ii old doesn't really work, unless I am doing it wrong, cause it just searched for 'old' with the ii command... but I love the changes, especially since you can just i old to look at it the old way. Also, wewt, Chaos Mutations are now a slightly different shade of bolded white. I can now see, real quick-like, how odd-looking I am and RP appropriately.

I can see how it would get really spammy, though... but then again, no less spammy than typing SCORE FULL, as opposed to just SCORE. I'll likely utilize i old  and i equally.

Bluef

Over 20 lines of text when you LOOK at someone? Please Gods, no. Change it back to how it was or allow us to toggle this thing on/off.

Edit: It doesn't even show that I'm wearing items that I AM WEARING.