Original RP vs RP from books and movies

Trey

Sobriquet said:

Reciting OOC song lyrics, poems, movie lines etc verbatim is terrible imho. however, taking them as a structure and modifying it to be more Achaean can work very well in some instances.

Agreed, but I definitely think it should be more modified than what I used to spout. Let me see if I can find it here...


"We give thanks to the Lords, for They are Strength."
"Before Them, the swift cannot flee, nor the strong stand."
"Let my blades devour, until their thirst is quenched in blood, and my enemies sleep forever."

Jovolo

Hahaha

Rangor

Ulrike said:

Trey said:

To be more constructive, I think inspiration is fine, but when you start ripping things verbatim from RL stuff it gets obnoxious. I did it once with part of Amsterdam's prayer from Gangs of New York, but even though nobody recognized it and I'd altered it slightly, I still stopped after a while because it felt cheap. It'd be like taking the distinctive last name of your favorite video game character, or using a wedding to get your 'allies' into place to slaughter them, or walking around in a brown pinstriped suit as a quirky guy with a hand-sized elemental staff.

One of the old PKers (Geraint?) used to macro the Boondock Saints prayer after killing someone. That was so lame.

RIP @GERAINT. MOST EPIC GANK BUDDY EVER.

Santar

Can you guess which Shakespeare character I based Santar off of?

Herenicus

Brothello.

Lucine

Meh.  Who cares about taking George R.R. Martin's ideas.  He took them from historical events and just added dragons.  Which is the problem with everything, it's all been done before in one way or another.  There are no original ideas.  Just stories that haven't been told in awhile or trying to give a new twist.

Prythe

Prythe is Don Quixote. 

Seriously, it is obvious now that you know, eh?

Ever send her a message? Check out the return message.

Prythe

Lucine said:

Meh.  Who cares about taking George R.R. Martin's ideas.  He took them from historical events and just added dragons.  Which is the problem with everything, it's all been done before in one way or another.  There are no original ideas.  Just stories that haven't been told in awhile or trying to give a new twist.

Oh, and speaking of which - Roddenberry's original pitch for "Star Trek" was "Wagon Train in Space."

Lucine

I think a more important question is:
'Was it well done?' 
'Does it deviate enough from the source material that it's enjoyable?'
'Is the plot coherent or are people having to refer to the source material to get a plot line out of the event?'
'Have you taken time to consider how popular this plot line has been in recent years and weighed that against your desire to do it?'

Kerria

Glaringly obvious rips from other things tend to put me on the other side of mildly irked.

if it's setting that is repeated over and over and over by other people trying to make it part of the "thing to do", also irritates the hell out of me. 

Just a a personal pet peeve and o try not to let it affect Kerria, though admittedly one does:
Someone says, "One of us, one of us."
Someone repeats, "One of us, one of us!"

Take that right the f out of here.

Orzaansyn

Alfred Hitchcock said that to make a very original story, you should always begin with a commonplace.

As @Synbios‌ underlined, there is no issues at all with being even strongly inspired by a book or a film (even as a female Jack Sparrow like @Taraus‌)  because you'll always add your own touch to make it unique. 

In my own experience, my sources of inspirations are numerous, some are obvious (O-Ren Ishii, Wednesday...) when others are probably far less (Would you have guessed about Atala from Chateaubriand?  ). It is simply a puzzle of "RP from books and films" to create the "Original RP".

Anedhel

To be totally honest, Taraus was the funnest Mark I've ever had chasing me. Didn't get me, I don't think, but the banter was 100% worth leaving Targ for however many hours it took the contract to expire.

Halios

This thread is so different to read after Melodie's wedding. 

Bluef

Ayleth said:

Take the Red Wedding from Game of Thrones, for example. (I finally was able to watch that episode last night after moving past my Shawn Bean addiction [I refused to watch the series after that certain part. Same with LotR until I remembered that he is still alive and happy outside of the movies/series]. The feels, man, THE FEELS.) At first, I thought it would be an interesting concept to incorporate into a wedding idea in Achaea (avoiding bloodshed in some cases is unavoidable, especially if a God demands that blood be spilt [I'm lookin' at you @Sartan, you Suffering devil, you.]) and in this case, it'd be between the Kindfires and the Van Helsings (then @Draqoom ruined it with his ally status post. Jerk.) Then.. I realised I don't want to take George R. R. Martin's idea because, well, its silly to do that. With a little creativity and originality, I could do so much more than that. 

Sartan said:

@Ayleth‌  Now now. Who said I require bloodshed at weddings? 

*Nonchalantly points an imperious finger at @Melodie*

Sartan

Ahem.

Melodie

Bluef said:

Ayleth said:

Take the Red Wedding from Game of Thrones, for example. (I finally was able to watch that episode last night after moving past my Shawn Bean addiction [I refused to watch the series after that certain part. Same with LotR until I remembered that he is still alive and happy outside of the movies/series]. The feels, man, THE FEELS.) At first, I thought it would be an interesting concept to incorporate into a wedding idea in Achaea (avoiding bloodshed in some cases is unavoidable, especially if a God demands that blood be spilt [I'm lookin' at you @Sartan, you Suffering devil, you.]) and in this case, it'd be between the Kindfires and the Van Helsings (then @Draqoom ruined it with his ally status post. Jerk.) Then.. I realised I don't want to take George R. R. Martin's idea because, well, its silly to do that. With a little creativity and originality, I could do so much more than that. 

Sartan said:

@Ayleth‌  Now now. Who said I require bloodshed at weddings? 

*Nonchalantly points an imperious finger at @Melodie*

Lets just say when I saw this thread go up, I'm pretty sure I had to hit a pillow for a little while and then I never posted in here, very much on purpose, since the thread was started about 2-3 days before my wedding!

Synbios

Melodie said:

Lets just say when I saw this thread go up, I'm pretty sure I had to hit a pillow for a little while and then I never posted in here, very much on purpose, since the thread was started about 2-3 days before my wedding!

Suuuure you weren't. Remember, I've got my Lumin-EYE on you.

Orzaansyn

For @Melodie's defense, the rejoincing events around her wedding has been planned more than 2 IRL months ago.

Bluef

As someone who was once lusted away by @Flair at the altar, I'm not bagging on @Melodie's choice of making her wedding more than just the standard scene, but let's be honest here: The concept itself isn't original. Even before Game of Thrones' Red Wedding, which first broadcast 3 months ago, there were other people who have done similar things in Achaea, but @Melodie put her own twist on the idea and thus it was successful. I think that's what we've been talking about the last couple of pages anyway. Using ideas from other sources as springboards from which we launch into some unique RP. 

Taraus

Anedhel said:

To be totally honest, Taraus was the funnest Mark I've ever had chasing me. Didn't get me, I don't think, but the banter was 100% worth leaving Targ for however many hours it took the contract to expire.

Good, that's the point!
Tart isn't Mark because I'm some great combatant, I'm actually really only using it as an RP device. Yes, I'll try to fulfill the contracts (depending on who they're on, ofc), but I try to make it an enjoyable experience for everyone involved, rather than "gonna gank you every time I catch you out and say nothing".  I didn't realize the rankings system would reset so often, I sort of had designs on being known publicly as the Worst Assassin Evar. I've somewhat been successful in that regard, and have certainly gotten a slew of "lol y r u even mark, u suck' reaction; maybe this post will enlighten those with that deep, burning curiosity.

Anedhel

If there was ever someone I'd indulge with something like that, would totally be you. I have to admit the whole 'Maybe I have a contract, maybe I have a crush on you' actually made me laugh out loud (and yes, I bragged about it on an OOC channel).

Orzaansyn

This is the kind of sentence I am very tempted to quote again in game.  

Herenicus

Apollyon leaned a bit on Arthur Schopenhauer but it never felt studied or lazy. I was disappointed today when I realized that a text called "Discourses on Evil" was actually a c/p of the Satanic Mass by Anton LaVey. It is a step above singing Ke$ha lyrics over your city channel, but only. 

Iuneos

That sounds like some good RP to me.  Just ask @Talysin‌.

Talysin

First things first, I'm the realest.