Houseless city member

Iocun

I think the RP restitutions should consist of humiliating activities that are fun to watch , like "ask Mhaldor's Tyrannus if you may rat in his room", "get pickpocketed five times", or "raid Cyrene and lose horribly to a single newbie defender".

Jovolo

Jhaeli said:

@Florentino is clearly forum-rping. 

Cyrene is generally pretty understanding. I mean, Herenicus was able to join the city for a time, if I remember right (I was dormant at the time). So unless you've done something particularly bad, they're likely to forgive, especially if you're young and especially if you've otherwise behaved since. And if it's just from being a citizen of Mhaldor, it's likely easy to get past.

Don't think I have personal grievances against Cyrene that make me say this, I don't. Cyrene was one of the more fun places I played in, but they do hold grudges for an unreasonably long time. I have personal experience with this as do others coming from a Mhaldorian background trying to join Cyrene. The fines and sentence lengths are also crazy

It won't be that difficult for a not-very-established young player to try and join any city in the game. You just need to be sincere and roleplay it out for the most part.

Jhaeli

If you've made a point of breaking a city's laws and generally being a nuisance in the past, then yeah, it's going to get tougher to get it. You can't just go from raiding and thieving from a populace to "HAI GUYS! Can we be friends?" just like that. 

But if you're under 30 and have only been enemied for being a citizen of Mhaldor, it shouldn't be that difficult to get inside and that's what I meant by Cyrene being fairly reasonable. As for longer sentences and higher fines, see previous arguments made by others already in this thread!

Khairt

Fine and term caps are relatively new in cyrene. I feel like modern cyrene has made some pretty big strides in accepting that this is a game.

The problem arises when people come in to cyrene to kill cyrenians. No one I've ever heard of plays in cyrene for the combat opportunities (long). People who bring that to the city are being tedious at best and are HORRIBLE PEOPLE WHO SHOULD GET CANCER IRL at worst, depending on the cyrenian. 

The grudge is real because people try to blackops their creative mode minecraft and then acting like cyrene is awful because they don't forum rave about it. You're like IC the worst person ever, why should you time be short?

I do think it is fun to talk about how bad/irrelevant/unreasonable cyrene is then without missing a disdainful beat, complain because they can't join/get unenemied/shop there.

#urbadlol #deletecyrene #chipotlecauseslongposts

Ayena

This is interesting. If you are enemied to a certain organisation/ city, does it go away after a time, or do you face a penalty?

Lucine

Ayena said:

This is interesting. If you are enemied to a certain organisation/ city, does it go away after a time, or do you face a penalty?

I've been enemied to Mhaldor since the third day of playing Lucine.  So about 3 RL years.  The only way it would go away is if I approached someone from Mhaldor and asked to pay off my fine.

If it's a village other than Caer Witrin, though, it will go away.

Sena

If you're enemied to a city, you aren't allowed to enter it (and the city's guards will attack you on sight if you do), and citizens of that city probably won't be very friendly towards you.

If you're enemied to a house or clan, it's not such a big deal, it doesn't really change anything except maybe for how members of that house/clan interact with you (if they even notice you're an enemy, since most people only bother checking for city enemies if they care at all).

Player-run shops can also deny service to enemies of certain organisations. So if you're enemied to Cyrene, for example, you'll find shops in other places (like Hashan and Delos) that won't sell you anything. That can also happen without being enemied anywhere, since some shops deny service to all members of a certain city or organisation.

Zii

Houseless is overrated.  Join Mhaldor, you all will in the end.

Arditi

Most restaurants and bars will sell to city enemies.

Man needs his holoburgers.