Artefact for Speaking to On Plane people while Off Plane

Shadrac

Not sure if this has been suggested before - I feel like it has to have been.

I know it wouldn't be something that would get a TON of use but it would be cool to have a little artefact that allowed you to receive tells and see communitcation AND communicate while off plane.

Bad idea?  Decent idea?  Thoughts?

Atalkez

Maybe only city mates allies or friends?

Has good application, but would defeat the idea of being "off plane" really.

Eld

I'm not sure if you're aware, since you just started here recently, but for a long time, being on islands, in the northern tundra, on a ship, basically anywhere far enough that you can't scry/farsee/detect someone, also kept you off communication channels, just like UW/Annwyn/Nish. One thing I don't really like about this idea is that, since the changes to make communication planewide, basically the only places left with this kind of communication isolation (except arenas and diving, I guess) are places that are meant to be inherently dangerous, and the relative difficulty of calling for assistance contributes something to that sense of danger; personally, I'd like to see that remain.

Shadrac

Aye, I can see your point there Eld.

I wasn't thinking of it from the aspect of calling for help - just being able to communicate and not cut off. 

That being said, keeping some areas dangerous like that is a good thing in my opinion.

Strata

Agreed with @Eld. Even though I still think it would be cool to have an artefact that only works between two people (kind of like earrings) so they can communicate that way. It makes sense to have an artefact like this so if you're on the offensive off-plane and your target brings their CWHO, you can at least have piece of mind knowing that they probably used the artefact to call for help instead of Skype.

Eld

Strata said:

Agreed with @Eld. Even though I still think it would be cool to have an artefact that only works between two people (kind of like earrings) so they can communicate that way. It makes sense to have an artefact like this so if you're on the offensive off-plane and your target brings their CWHO, you can at least have piece of mind knowing that they probably used the artefact to call for help instead of Skype.

Yeah, having it with a single person would make it basically the same as using messages for those purposes, so wouldn't really make a difference for the danger aspect. But for the same reason, it wouldn't really make much of a difference for the communication aspect, either, so I don't know why you'd buy an artefact like that instead of just using messages.

Rispok

Even if you are the type of player who doesn't use messages for any in-character communication, there's still the artefact mailbox.

Shadrac

Rispok said:

Even if you are the type of player who doesn't use messages for any in-character communication, there's still the artefact mailbox.

What's the artifact mailbox?  You mean the whistle that lets you send mail from anywhere?

Jonathin

No. Planes are separate from one another for a reason. If it were up to me (and it's a good thing that it's not), I'd go as far as disabling messages while health is above 0 from other planes because I don't like the idea of instantaneous communication between planes.

If you found some way to explain quantum entanglement in-character and wanted to send messages at the cost of 1 letter every 10 seconds, I'd be fine with that though.

Eld

Jonathin said:

No. Planes are separate from one another for a reason. If it were up to me (and it's a good thing that it's not), I'd go as far as disabling messages while health is above 0 from other planes because I don't like the idea of instantaneous communication between planes.

If you found some way to explain quantum entanglement in-character and wanted to send messages at the cost of 1 letter every 10 seconds, I'd be fine with that though.

Magic.

Aepas

Jonathin said:

No. Planes are separate from one another for a reason. If it were up to me (and it's a good thing that it's not), I'd go as far as disabling messages while health is above 0 from other planes because I don't like the idea of instantaneous communication between planes.

If you found some way to explain quantum entanglement in-character and wanted to send messages at the cost of 1 letter every 10 seconds, I'd be fine with that though.

...wooormholes?

Jonathin

edit: post didn't turn out the way I had wanted!

Kresslack

I think there are already very few places that you still can't speak with other people on main planes. The only one I can think of right now is the ocean floor when deepsea diving. I don't go to UW or anything, so can't say for there, but other places seems like you already can. Not sure how many people would actually buy something like this, considering the change.

Shirszae

You can actually talk to people who are away deepsea diving on the ocean floor. Not sure about direct tells, but channels certainly work.

Mannimar

Shirszae said:

You can actually talk to people who are away deepsea diving on the ocean floor. Not sure about direct tells, but channels certainly work.

Pretty sure thats only if you're on the sea as well. My experience has been Land <-> Sea <-> Ocean floor when it comes to communication through any for of channel other than Messages.

Shirszae

Mannimar said:

Shirszae said:

You can actually talk to people who are away deepsea diving on the ocean floor. Not sure about direct tells, but channels certainly work.

Pretty sure thats only if you're on the sea as well. My experience has been Land <-> Sea <-> Ocean floor when it comes to communication through any for of channel other than Messages.

Ah, you might be right. I was on a ship, just not diving.

Soulfyriani

Thing is you can channel talk someone at sea but not send tells. It doesn't make sense that way but it has been that way for some time. If anything make sea and land communicate regularly (though it says in the files your talk is restricted to 'the continent', I think), but make distant destinations still impossible. If not, make communication inseparable altogether. This half/half with ships doesn't really make sense, honestly. That and HISTORY (HOUSE) doesn't show ship communications. It seems like a mistake to begin with.

Zii

Tvistor

This already exists and is called Skype.

Duh.

Jiraishin

I could swear I've sent tells between ship and land recently.

Kyrra

Jiraishin said:

I could swear I've sent tells between ship and land recently.

You can, as long as the comm screen isn't up.

Eld

Yeah, ships don't interfere with tells. Diving still does, though, which might be what @Soulfyriani meant. I don't remember if channels still get through there or not.

Taraus

No, channels don't go through while you're under the sea.

Also, taking this opportunity to rant about how annoying it is that communication isn't blocked to islands now. Up north in the tundra, whatever, that's fine, you're on the same continent. But now I try to vaca on Zanzibaar and everything just follows me. Sigh. I -liked- my quiet escapes!