Auctions

Jovolo

When do you think, or when do you want, the next one(s) to be, and what do you desperately want to see in it?

(Personally hoping for one in October - December period. Please hold one then admin.)

Wings of Awesome would be nice. Most of my ideas are overpowered so I'll keep shtum until I hear other ideas. They can be existing or entirely new, whatever.

Jules

I want to see ridiculous, overpowered items that should never, ever be sold as artefacts/Shop of Wonders items, and items that can only work in a limited run (like out of subdivision housing plots).  In recent auctions, the player base was against very powerful items, after some admittedly bad experiences with Profit and his veil.  And Profit and his box... and understandably (sort of), admin turned around and plucked some of the favorite SoW items (at least one of which hadn't even had an initial run) and auctioned them.  I hope the lesson has been learned.  

Sena

The next auction should happen whenever I happen to have a large number of credits (no idea when that might be).

The main thing I'd like to see offered is any item that I would absolutely love to have, yet nobody else has much interest in. If the admin can't think of anything catered perfectly to me though, some other things I'd like are:

• Some item that can force everyone in the room to shut up for a minute (like a silence vibe effect that lasts a few seconds but still allows the user to speak, usable once per Achaean month or something).
• Special arrows of some kind. Maybe a single arrow, so you have to wait for it to reset between uses (probably the best way to do it), or a quiver that slowly generates the arrows (slowly and with a short decay time so you can't stockpile a bunch), or a fletching knife that lets you craft the arrows for an exorbitant cost (probably still with a delay between crafting and a short decay on the arrows). There are all sorts of effects the arrows could have. Elemental arrows (change the damage type, maybe a chance of afflictions like burning/freezing), bomb arrows that basically let you shoot jester bombs with better range, bomb arrows that detonate and damage everyone in the room when they hit, silence arrows that seek out the enemy's throat and prevent them from talking for a bit, arrows that can't miss (this would probably be best as a single resetting arrow, for less frequent use), healing arrows (maybe unenvenomed heal health and envenomed heal the venom's affliction?), etc.
• Thinking about this more, I really want some of those arrows. There's no way I'd ever have enough credits to outbid everyone on them though.
• An item that gives you a partial evade ability. It lets you sneak out of the room without any message, but doesn't bypass any hindering, it's still stopped by everything that stops normal movement. Probably a longer balance cost than evade too.
• A training dummy, to be placed permanently in the owner's house like furniture. Allows you to check its health like a falcon so you can see how much damage you do. Allows criticals.
• Auction the right to get a custom class implemented (within a year or two maybe, I'm not sure how long it really takes to build a class from scratch). Obviously all decisions and balancing are ultimately up to the admin, but the winner of the auction basically has a large say in the overall theme and design of the class, within reason.
  
• Class customisation. Allow the winner to get custom messages (subject to approval of course) for several of their class abilities. So you could reskin your swashbuckling to be more flamboyant or have more of a "dancer" flavour, or customise your blademaster attacks to be bright and glowy. Purely flavour text changes, nothing that alters how an ability works.

Nellaundra

I'd really really like an artefact that functions as a wearable split-mind effect.

Rangor

Auction winner would be:

- One extra class slot when multiclass is released.

Jovolo

I'd love the option for a custom class @Sena, and was actually thinking about it yesterday. It would no doubt cost me ridiculous amounts, or anyone that would win it, as well as taking a lot of interaction with admin in balancing it and creating appropriate thematics. It would be amazing, though.

Sarapis

Even US $100,000 wouldn't be worth it for a custom class for us due to the ongoing balancing work it would create. 

Antonius

Custom deathsight, enter/exit message, shouting voice, etc. have always appealed to me.

A version of the Stardust Flask that doesn't have a cooldown, so essentially a permanent starburst tattoo that also saves you a tattoo slot.

Something that provides infinite uses of a specific venom.

Jovolo

My hopes and my dreams.

Gone.

Really though. If the class was created in coordination with Tecton and the ACC to properly balance it, 100,000 dollars wouldn't be enough? That's a small fortune there!

A cool auction artefact would be a deathsight that works for resurrections and deaths, and provises a location.

'Antonius has been slain by Sarapis'
You see the death occur at Targossas barracks, in Targossas.

'Antonius has been resurrected by Tesha'
You see the resurrection occur at Targossas barracks, in Targossas.

Achilles

I don't believe that, considering Alchemists rolled out a couple of years ago and I seriously doubt it brought in 100k in revenue since then.  Most skills would be customized messages with maybe a few really unique abilities (a la Occultist refresh) thrown in.

Jarrod

I think that lifesight would be a pretty cool idea, let you know whenever anyone revives, through any means.

X has emerged from the cave.

X has been restored to life by the World Tree.

X has been resurrected by Y.

Sarapis

@Achilles One typically tries to learn from one's mistakes rather than repeating them.

I'm pretty sure I'm the most qualified person on the planet to tell you what it's worth to Achaea, and a custom class is not something we'd do for $100k. Feel free to offer it! You already know what answer you're going to get though.

Penwize

I would totally buy a personal icon if one was auctioned.  Long as it didn't come with like, vulnerability to icon wars.  Just, you know, needs iconic shards to keep it up and replaces your house icon if you have one with whatever sphere you pick.  Same cooldowns on changing it and everything.

Triak

I happen to have one of those handy.  We call it the Ashura.

Makarios

Occultist refresh was -way- easier than a complete new class. Occultist really didn't need that much work. The refresh for all practical purposes added about five new abilities and took away about 2-3 things they could do that were over the top. Considering that, there are still issues even with that small update when it comes to balancing, and there was a lot of ACC input during the design stages there. End of the day though, new classes need new cool mechanics or they're just boring reskins. New mechanics are hard to balance.

Santar

last thing achaea needs is a new class

Sarapis

Makarios said:

Occultist refresh was -way- easier than a complete new class. Occultist really didn't need that much work. The refresh for all practical purposes added about five new abilities and took away about 2-3 things they could do that were over the top. Considering that, there are still issues even with that small update when it comes to balancing, and there was a lot of ACC input during the design stages there. End of the day though, new classes need new cool mechanics or they're just boring reskins. New mechanics are hard to balance.

It goes way beyond that even in terms of cost. The real cost (both direct and indirect) is the ongoing balancing and, possibly more importantly, the additional complexity the class forces on everyone else via combat or other mechanics. That may be worth it when you're talking about a class lots of people will enjoy, but it's a huge problem when only one person is enjoying the class and everyone else is having to adapt because of it.

Tharvis

honestly, with multiclass coming this way, essentially all the classes that get new skill trees can be seen as new classes, something tells me we'll all be better off if they can focus on balancing that without having to calculate another completely new class in

Rispok

Best part of this thread is when Sarapis said Alchemists were a terrible idea. Can we delete them yet?

Xith

Sarapis said:

Even US $100,000 wouldn't be worth it for a custom class for us due to the ongoing balancing work it would create. 

Awwwwww. There goes Mime.

Sarapis

We put in mime in around May of 2013 I believe, in the form of the new emote system. Mime to your heart's content! 

Santar

Trevize

warning: only half serious

If we delete jesters, that'd make room for a new class, right?

Trey

a Grandmaster's Hammer - Adds 10 refines (chances to add to stats) to any item forged while holding/wielding it, while also functioning like a normal Hammer of Forging.

the Belt of Yen-Sorte - Allows the wearer to change the stats of an artefact weapon to any other artefact weapon's, so long as they work with the abilities in the Chivalry skill tree (no changing rapiers into artefact dirks, for instance). Functions on the same balance time as a morphing weapon. Would allow a cosmetic change (read: ditch rapiers) to someone without an imbalance to mechanics. The only thing I could see this doing is allowing rapier-fast battleaxes that can also shatter, which doesn't seem like an issue given how fast you can swap out weapons.

an ingot-filled strongchest - Produces steel at 5/Achaean day, with five 'slots'.

a jeweler's glass - Allows the wearer to see stats on wielded items or worn armour (essentially, weaponprobe on someone else)

OP AS FUCK BELOW THIS LINE -----------

"The winner of this auction will be allowed to redistribute up to 20 points each on up to two artefact weapons."

the Bow of Iocun - A level 5 artefact bow.

Sarapis

@Trey Don't worry, there IS a weapon system change coming and knights won't have to run around like they're Louis XV French dandies any longer.

Tahquil

Language learning token again please.

Peak

strongchest should be a SoW item. Hammer should be deleted from this thread because don't get my hopes up. Belt of Yen-Sorte should be resolved issue with the weapon system overhaul. Let's call it a jeweler's loupe instead and have it able to be attached to my specs, so I don't have to customize them.

Sena

Sarapis said:

That may be worth it when you're talking about a class lots of people will enjoy, but it's a huge problem when only one person is enjoying the class and everyone else is having to adapt because of it.

I wouldn't imagine that a class few people would enjoy would get approved anyways. Or if by "one person enjoying the class" you mean a private class that nobody else can use, that wasn't the intention, I just meant something publicly available the same as any other class (probably no factional classes either), with the auction winner just getting some say in what the class is.

Still understandable that a new class is unnecessary and not worth the cost.

Blujixapug

Bow of Eagles. Arrows fired from this bow turn into soaring eagles that swoop at and harass your enemies.

A magical leaf. Grants a sylvan the one-time customisation of their viridian description. Become a desert-dwelling cactus viridian, a swampland viridian replete with ferns and fungi, or a coral viridian from beneath the waves! Or more likely some bullshit with sweet-scented wildflowers, you disgust me.

A calcified cactus quill. Drop it, and crawling cactii will grow to blanket the ground, spreading outwards by a radius of one room per second up to a 15 room radius. Cactii lacerate and cause bleeding to everyone in the room, everyone who moves between rooms, and everyone who's knocked to the ground. They die off after 20 minutes, and the thing resets maybe every few hours. How hilariously annoying would this be? What a terrible idea.

A pickled pirate's tongue. It's a tongue pickled in a jar of alcohol. (You can drink the alcohol, but that's secondary.) Use the jar to curse someone, and for the next hour, any time they use say/tell/orgtell, a list of many common words and certain uncommon words are replaced with their pirate equivalent. As well, "Arrr!" is inserted at random between, before, and after sentences.

you = ye
your + you're = yer
are = be
aren't = don't be
isn't = ain't
stop = avast
yes = aye
yeah = yarr
friend = bucko
*ing = *in' (eg. speakin', talkin', conversin')
etc

ct that goddamned pirate hit me with his stupid auction artifact again
(Ashtan): You say, "Arrr! That goddamned pirate hit me with his stupid auction artifact again."

ct I wish he'd stop.
(Ashtan): You say, "I wish he'd avast."

ct yeah, this isn't even making grammatical sense
(Ashtan): You say, "Yarr, this ain't even makin' grammatical sense. Arr!"

A prudent piper's pipe. (Is "piper's pipe" a tautology, or just redundant?) Playing this pipe will cause other people's minipets to follow you. You gain the ability to order them to jump into the mouths of humgiis, down sewer entrances, or off certain clifftop locations in the game.

The Rock of Unfair Advantage. Can be packed inside snowballs to make the stun the target for like half a second. Win snowball fights easily. Lose childhood friends even more easily!

A moss arrow. Liberated from the Thief franchise. When fired at the ground, it will cause moss to spread over any runic totem that may be in the room, masking its runes until the totem is firelashed.

Santar

I completely lost it at this:

 (Ashtan): You say, "I wish he'd avast."

Sarapis

Hahah, I like the pirate's tongue.