If it makes you feel better I had to rewrite it like 6 times. I'm jonesing for nicotine pretty hardcore right now so the first version read like old school Miagorme trash talk and would have gotten me banned if anyone could have read/understood it. Deep breathing exercises bring clarity and a bit more empathy for all parties.
I tend to get hung up on small details, people who have Rp'd with my will be painfully aware but this has been on my mind since I read this and I need clarity.... Did the state police make characters to log into Achaea to have the few minute rp conversation with the person?
Times like this that you realise that the facebook group page isn't always such a good idea. Not everyone online who plays Achaea is your friend, even as much as we try to believe even those dirty Mhaldorks/Targs/Treehuggers/Team-A rollers are decent people RL, sometimes there are people who just... aren't.
@Bluef Your character stirs the pot oftentimes so yeah, she's everyone's enemy, but don't think that Achaea doesn't thank you for giving everyone a character they can wail on. You bring everyone together in mutual dislike, sometimes so much so that they forget to hate on Xith. Thanks for bringing your own depth to the game world. You'd be missed more than you think.
EDIT: Enjoy the break. See you in 2 weeks.
I like my steak like I like my Magic cards: mythic rare.
I tend to get hung up on small details, people who have Rp'd with my will be painfully aware but this has been on my mind since I read this and I need clarity.... Did the state police make characters to log into Achaea to have the few minute rp conversation with the person?
The major detail here is that it's (ie should be) a Federal case not state/local. But not that I care about the details.
Anyway, anyone that knows me, knows I echo some of what has been said. I don't trust people here with PII, and it really shocks me people that do.
@Bluef, I hate to hear that anyone from a *game* is causing you worry and concern for your safety as another player.
I don't know you. I have never played with you. I know absolutely nothing about you. But I know what it's like when people e-creep and act literally insane and threaten. And honestly, that should never happen, but it definitely does.
Remember though, the admin can only see and hear so much and has to try to be as fair and just as possible... They are also just staff of a game and can't know the whole of things (that extend beyond the text interactions available to them in the actual game), and aren't lawyers and judges themselves. The sad part is, it's just as hard to prove things to the admin as it is the cops. Logs can be forged and lies can be told from both sides (Not that I think you are lying. I feel very defensive for people who are being griefed IRL. Especially when it comes to a point they you are willing to quit a game you are clearly heavily invested in advancing and giving to). I just hope that you figure out how to deal with this without having to walk away, or having to carry around bitterness at the admin over it. Also... if you simply disappear, that shithead that is giving you problems will feel triumphant. Screw that.
The internet.. it's not for the faint of heart :-S
Most people who have been playing for a long time recall the Achaean “Free
Credits on Facebook” promotion. You had to try out the Iron Realms games app
and invite your friends. As a result of this promo, many people ended up joining
the Achaea Facebook group.
Well, it turns out that this FB group helps people who you have never
shared a single bit of OOC information with find your Facebook profile. may not
be able to view 99% of your profile, but the 1% they can is all they really
need to start stalking you and messing with your life.
The harassment policy of Achaea is simple: If it doesn’t happen in
Achaea, there is nothing they can or will do about it. I was therefore not
calling out the admins, per se. They
tried to find evidence of the person doing this IC, but his Achaean friends are happy to chat away with him on Skype or
whatever instead of a part or clan chat IC, so he's untouchable.
The admins can only watch people like this for so long before they have
to admit what is already known: This person may be a world class, douchebag who
likes to threaten and mess with women via the anonymity of the internet, but
because he’s doing it outside the game there’s nothing they can do. Hence, the secondary
point of this goodbye posting:
No one is
going to protect you from them. You’re on your own, just as Bluef has been IC for
more time than I care to recall. Take care of yourselves.
To the rest of you who posted here so far, your comments add nothing to the discussion
beyond revealing what a bunch of assholes have taken up residence in Achaea. It’s
no wonder that people like the dickwad who is messing with my life can find
people to hang out with in dark corners of the internet. @Jacen that goes triple for you.
If Regina George hadn't been hit by that bus, she'd have grown up to be Hayte. That is some slick blamin'. Mainly because it's true. Of course it's a bit of a ploy to garner sympathy. What else is a character that apparently doesn't have a cult following to do on a crazy gamer forum? Also ignores very serious allegations, that, if true, trump any minor emotional heartstring tugging.
By the way, I'd much rather hear about things like this, than, you know, not hear about them - it's good for gauging the overall level of batshit one might expect to encounter. Awfully scary if it happens to YOU, no matter what, but at least this level of scary does seem to be rare enough.
What the hell is wrong with some of you people, I don't find anything about this situation amusing, at all. I don't even know what I was expecting from some of you guys, but clearly I gave some of you way too much credit.
What the hell is wrong with some of you people, I don't find anything about this situation amusing, at all. I don't even know what I was expecting from some of you guys, but clearly I gave some of you way too much credit.
What's wrong with some of them? They clearly define their self worth based on the opinions of of others. So hating on @Bluef makes them feel better about themselves and their lack of anything meaningful or good happening in their own life. Which probably is their fault but they refuse to admit it and instead blame other people or things or even the place they live in. Most people have this problem though and direct their anger or frustration over the internet because they feel like it's anonymous and as long as they are with people who they consider to be "friends" the feel fine about it. Even if those "friends" are just other people over the internet who wouldn't recognize or even have anything meaningful to say to them in a face to face setting that doesn't involve the one mutual place for them to talk anonymously where they are most comfortable.
I would like to add that, because of the forum dynamic. In a face to face setting they might talk about beards.
High school psychoanalysis aside, I think people's problems with this thread stem from the tone in which Bluef presents her problems. She could have very easily issued herself, or emailed Sarapis or Tecton, and had this handled by the admins to the limits of their capability. Instead, here she is posting a bunch of guff about how she fears for her safety because a couple of nerds on a text game are talking shit about her on Skype.
I saw the conversation where people were saying they want to punch her in the face irl, and it was fucking retarded. I am highly sceptical, however, about any of that actually coming to pass. If Decan or whoever is actually stalking her irl, then he's a nutcase and it's good that she got the police involved. However, there are countless ways to avoid interaction with those people on Achaea including the aforementioned ignore function and emailing the game admins if people try to bypass it.
The internet is really no different to real life. Anonymity can certainly bring out the worst in people, but other people can only have an effect on you if you let them. I'm sure that if there are people harassing Bluef, this forum thread is exactly what they would've wanted, since it gives them attention. But this is the drama that Bluef thrives upon. She loves the attention just as much as Decan and whoever else. It's dumb.
My beard is damn sexy thankyouverymuch, but you're putting too much thought into it. The majority of forums view Bluef as an attention whore better off ignored. It's the IG mentality, and became the forums mentality when she made her début on the new forums. It's why Jacen called it drama, and everyone else are being assholes. However, none of that matters. Someone is expressing that an individual in our community has gone too far, whether fictional or not, you should do one of two things, express empathy or move on. Not tell someone to shut up or get over it, or even insult the post itself when there are alleged claims of cyberstalking, invasion of privacy, and hacking attempts on personal accounts.
Understand, many times I'm in the majority camp when it comes to Bluef, but this is a claim that is too serious in my book to allow my preconceptions of an individual to prevent me from expressing my empathy. Cyberstalking is a high stress situation, that can have drastic effects on personal health, and can escalate in to very bad situations.
High school psychoanalysis aside, I think people's problems with this thread stem from the tone in which Bluef presents her problems. She could have very easily issued herself, or emailed Sarapis or Tecton, and had this handled by the admins to the limits of their capability. Instead, here she is posting a bunch of guff about how she fears for her safety because a couple of nerds on a text game are talking shit about her on Skype.
I saw the conversation where people were saying they want to punch her in the face irl, and it was fucking retarded. I am highly sceptical, however, about any of that actually coming to pass. If Decan or whoever is actually stalking her irl, then he's a nutcase and it's good that she got the police involved. However, there are countless ways to avoid interaction with those people on Achaea including the aforementioned ignore function and emailing the game admins if people try to bypass it.
The internet is really no different to real life. Anonymity can certainly bring out the worst in people, but other people can only have an effect on you if you let them. I'm sure that if there are people harassing Bluef, this forum thread is exactly what they would've wanted, since it gives them attention. But this is the drama that Bluef thrives upon. She loves the attention just as much as Decan and whoever else. It's dumb.
I don't know what you read, perhaps your inability to understand a situation has rendered you incapable. I don't know, I am not your high school psychoanalyst. Either way, the responses present only prove her point. Amunet left with a very similar posting about how she wasted her life playing Achaea and how she regretted it. She got nothing but good-byes as she should have. Yet because of people like you she just gets accused of being a drama queen because she wants to say good-bye to the people who actually play the game with her. Not good-bye to the sorry few who who add their opinion to a matter which doesn't concern them in the least or even mention or ask for whatever warped view you have on life.
Recently, someone made out of character
threats against me, which has now escalated to cyber stalking and attempted
hacking of my personal internet accounts.
This is why she is leaving, and is what she is talking about, we can go play by play all night. Yet I feel you don't have too limited an understanding of what this would be like for a person. It is not a joke and it is not something to laugh about and just because you are too stupid to understand a situation does not mean she is trying to gain support for some fantastical agenda that you have made up in your sick demented head. Drama is the bullshit you pull off in here, adding your opinion just to cause a stir and get a reaction. If anyone here is thriving on attention it is you and the others whom take a simple good-bye and twist it into. OMG BLUEF SAYING STUFF! It's completely stupid and if you can't see that then I don't really care, yet it's entertaining to write back and talk crap.
Keep the thread civil, folks. If you have nothing to contribute beyond an insult, move along. If you have something to contribute, remove the gratuitous insults first. #ForumRule1
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Anyway, anyone that knows me, knows I echo some of what has been said. I don't trust people here with PII, and it really shocks me people that do.
One day I'm hoping for
Honourable, knight eternal,
Darkly evil, cruel infernal.
Necromanctic to the core,Dance with death forever more.
But seriously, what Tahquil said.
I don't know you. I have never played with you. I know absolutely nothing about you. But I know what it's like when people e-creep and act literally insane and threaten. And honestly, that should never happen, but it definitely does.
Remember though, the admin can only see and hear so much and has to try to be as fair and just as possible...
They are also just staff of a game and can't know the whole of things (that extend beyond the text interactions available to them in the actual game), and aren't lawyers and judges themselves.
The sad part is, it's just as hard to prove things to the admin as it is the cops.
Logs can be forged and lies can be told from both sides (Not that I think you are lying. I feel very defensive for people who are being griefed IRL. Especially when it comes to a point they you are willing to quit a game you are clearly heavily invested in advancing and giving to).
I just hope that you figure out how to deal with this without having to walk away, or having to carry around bitterness at the admin over it. Also... if you simply disappear, that shithead that is giving you problems will feel triumphant. Screw that.
The internet.. it's not for the faint of heart :-S
Most people who have been playing for a long time recall the Achaean “Free Credits on Facebook” promotion. You had to try out the Iron Realms games app and invite your friends. As a result of this promo, many people ended up joining the Achaea Facebook group.
Well, it turns out that this FB group helps people who you have never shared a single bit of OOC information with find your Facebook profile. may not be able to view 99% of your profile, but the 1% they can is all they really need to start stalking you and messing with your life.
The harassment policy of Achaea is simple: If it doesn’t happen in Achaea, there is nothing they can or will do about it. I was therefore not calling out the admins, per se. They tried to find evidence of the person doing this IC, but his Achaean friends are happy to chat away with him on Skype or whatever instead of a part or clan chat IC, so he's untouchable.
The admins can only watch people like this for so long before they have to admit what is already known: This person may be a world class, douchebag who likes to threaten and mess with women via the anonymity of the internet, but because he’s doing it outside the game there’s nothing they can do. Hence, the secondary point of this goodbye posting:
No one is going to protect you from them. You’re on your own, just as Bluef has been IC for more time than I care to recall. Take care of yourselves.
@Achimrst @Mannimar @Aduan @Khabibit @Nim @Shibumi @Rohai @Caoimhaen @Eiredhel @Darktalon @Trey @Draqoom @Strata @Wynedere @Wysteria @Rexia @Skye @Xith @Saeva -- Thank you for your thoughts and comments. They mean a lot to me, truly.
To the rest of you who posted here so far, your comments add nothing to the discussion beyond revealing what a bunch of assholes have taken up residence in Achaea. It’s no wonder that people like the dickwad who is messing with my life can find people to hang out with in dark corners of the internet. @Jacen that goes triple for you.
Album of Bluef during her time in Achaea
Also, how did Santar's post not get more lols? That shit was gold, you fucking cretins.
Meow, meow, etc.
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I would like to add that, because of the forum dynamic. In a face to face setting they might talk about beards.
Edit again to add:
Recently, someone made out of character threats against me, which has now escalated to cyber stalking and attempted hacking of my personal internet accounts.
This is why she is leaving, and is what she is talking about, we can go play by play all night. Yet I feel you don't have too limited an understanding of what this would be like for a person. It is not a joke and it is not something to laugh about and just because you are too stupid to understand a situation does not mean she is trying to gain support for some fantastical agenda that you have made up in your sick demented head. Drama is the bullshit you pull off in here, adding your opinion just to cause a stir and get a reaction. If anyone here is thriving on attention it is you and the others whom take a simple good-bye and twist it into. OMG BLUEF SAYING STUFF! It's completely stupid and if you can't see that then I don't really care, yet it's entertaining to write back and talk crap.
Keep the thread civil, folks. If you have nothing to contribute beyond an insult, move along. If you have something to contribute, remove the gratuitous insults first. #ForumRule1