Victory, we made someone who was coming to RP with us decide it wasn't worth the effort to even bother.
I'm never talking shit about Mhaldor again. At least they try.
Come talk to me! I generally don't mind talking if I'm not busy doing whatever.
Of course, usually nobody's around when I am, either (clearly timezone abuse). A couple of weeks back, I'm pretty sure I was the only Eleusian online at all, unless there were a couple offplane for over an hour.
- (Eleusis): Ellodin says, "The Fissure of Echoes is Sarathai's happy place." - With sharp, crackling tones, Kyrra tells you, "The ladies must love you immensely." - (Eleusian Ranger Techs): Savira says, "Most of the hard stuff seem to have this built in code like: If adventurer_hitting_me = "Sarathai" then send("terminate and selfdestruct")." - Makarios says, "Serve well and perish." - Xaden says, "Xaden confirmed scrub 2017."
Rejoice, for your favorite CIJ novice titles have returned
** Summary for (Cij) Referendum #185193 ********************************
Title: (Closed)
The Return of the Ducky?
Description:
CIJ novices used to be called Rubber Duckies. They were changed
in the year 492 AF to the current titles (Mischievite, Silvestrian, Knave). Should novices be once more known as Rubber Ducky, or shall they continue to be Mischievites and Silvestrians and Knaves?
Choices:
1. (3) LET THE SQUEAKS OF A THOUSAND RUBBER DUCKIES BE HEARD ONCE AGAIN!
2. (2) Let the Rubber Duckies squeak in memory only (keep modern titles)
3. (0) Who cares either way, Aktillum gives them random titles anyways
You have raised a fascinating question which I am prepared to entertain. Most people would say no, rubber does not exist in Achaea, or is atleast never called by the name "rubber". However, there are a few items that possess rubber-like qualities.
Exhibit A: Jester balloons. In researching the history of inflatable toy balloons, I found that the earliest examples of balloons were in fact made from pig bladders and animal intestines. The Aztecs used such balloons. The first rubber balloons were made in 1824, from caoutchouc, or "natural rubber", made from the latex of rubber trees. I would like to believe that jester balloons are made from such material, but if not, the idea of floating around on giraffe-shaped pig bladders is quite hysterical.
Exhibit B: Toy bouncing balls from Caer Witrin. The bouncy ball is actually a modern invention, having been made in 1965, from scraps of highly compressed rubber.
The more relevant question might be, not "Does rubber per se exist or fit in in Achaea?", but "Does the familiar rubber duckie, as anyone seeing the title will envision it, whatever the intent, fit in in Achaea?". I would say no, but it's no worse than most of Pranks, so meh.
I always thought of rubber in Achaea as some vaguely Erisian material bestowed upon jesters from farflung realms. Eg a mythical material, not made by mortal hands, but used by jesters all the same.
@Aktillum bring back the Cookpot of Doom too, if you're bringing back rubber duckies
Aurora says, "Tharvis, why are you always breaking things?!" Artemis says, "You are so high maintenance, Tharvis, gosh." Tecton says, "It's still your fault, Tharvis."
There is rubber in Manara's room descriptions, and rubber trees in Zanzibaar, and a rubber stopper in the Fontis Wine sold in Hashan. There are also things that are described as rubbery (though that doesn't necessarily mean anything, just like things being described as "herculean" don't mean that Hercules is IC), and Xith's "squeaky rubber shield" customisation got approved.
Ok, but should require at least 2 lit firecrackers.
Only two? Too OP, anyone can light two firecrackers. Make it at least 3.
I'm fine with two. But they need to add a requirement where you have to grind up a dragon adventurer corpse's bones into a fine powder to make a firecracker.
(The Vota Aeterna): @Saeva says, "What a poor fishing venture for the amount of time I was out."
(The Vota Aeterna): Saeva says, "19 fish."
(The Vota Aeterna): You say, "Aww."
(The Vota Aeterna): You say, "Clearly you need me there."
(The Vota Aeterna): Saeva says, "No joke, my mommy brings all the fish to the ship."
(The Vota Aeterna): You say, "To steal and entice your fish."
(The Vota Aeterna): You say, "Hahahaha."
(The Vota Aeterna): You say, "Oh fuck I spat out my drink hate you."
(The Vota Aeterna): Saeva laughingly says, "Hahaha."
And I love too Be still, my indelible friend That love soon might end You are unbreaking And be known in its aching Though quaking Shown in this shaking Though crazy Lately of my wasteland, baby That's just wasteland, baby
The more relevant question might be, not "Does rubber per se exist or fit in in Achaea?", but "Does the familiar rubber duckie, as anyone seeing the title will envision it, whatever the intent, fit in in Achaea?". I would say no, but it's no worse than most of Pranks, so meh.
I did a little research on this (ie. typed 'rubber' into wikipedia) since jesters are fucking stupid, their implementation is as out of place in Achaea as a Gaia Online avatar is in Middle-earth, and I wanted to be more informed to better rebut their existence.
Natural rubber was apparently used by Mesoamericans since prehistoric times, including some kind of curing process analogous to vulcanisation. Natural latex has been refined from tree and other plant sap on a large scale since the mid-1700s. This fits with the timeline of Achaea's generally pre-industrial-but-still-metropolised fantasy setting.
Modern vulcanisation was not developed until the 19th century, and the
process is important to give rubber a less tacky surface and make it
resilient against temperature changes. I don't know how flexible or resilient this type of crudely refined latex would be, without developments driven by industry in the 19th and 20th century, but balloons seem plausible. They become more plausible if you accept magic as an explanation, which is why I like the theory that faerie magic ("I wish") has some unknown involvement in jester props. Balloon giraffes still stupid tho.
I actually really liked the 'srs jester' titles... I thought it was a good way to take the silliness I could see a lot of jesters being and framing it as something that isn't just... way over the top. Still, Rubber Duckies are cute.
The more relevant question might be, not "Does rubber per se exist or fit in in Achaea?", but "Does the familiar rubber duckie, as anyone seeing the title will envision it, whatever the intent, fit in in Achaea?". I would say no, but it's no worse than most of Pranks, so meh.
I did a little research on this (ie. typed 'rubber' into wikipedia) since jesters are fucking stupid, their implementation is as out of place in Achaea as a Gaia Online avatar is in Middle-earth, and I wanted to be more informed to better rebut their existence.
Natural rubber was apparently used by Mesoamericans since prehistoric times, including some kind of curing process analogous to vulcanisation. Natural latex has been refined from tree and other plant sap on a large scale since the mid-1700s. This fits with the timeline of Achaea's generally pre-industrial-but-still-metropolised fantasy setting.
Modern vulcanisation was not developed until the 19th century, and the
process is important to give rubber a less tacky surface and make it
resilient against temperature changes. I don't know how flexible or resilient this type of crudely refined latex would be, without developments driven by industry in the 19th and 20th century, but balloons seem plausible. They become more plausible if you accept magic as an explanation, which is why I like the theory that faerie magic ("I wish") has some unknown involvement in jester props. Balloon giraffes still stupid tho.
I don't have a huge problem with rubber as such, with magical explanations replacing some of the technology, nor with a certain amount of mundane anachronism (c.f., bras). I'd probably even go as far as rubber balloons, depending on the context. My bigger problem with Pranks is that so many of the abilities evoke so much specific ooc context (modern clowns, slapstick comedy, etc) that they clash terribly with the setting. One of the Pranks abilities I don't particularly mind is bombs, but it would piss me all the way off to see a Jester fashion a Holy Hand Grenade; it's not so much about anachronistic technology as about glaringly ooc references.
(The Sefyric Mariners Guild): Bronislav says, "I like to pop out of
harbours for people I have absolutely no problem with, and yell, "Stop
right there, criminal scum!""
- (Eleusis): Ellodin says, "The Fissure of Echoes is Sarathai's happy place." - With sharp, crackling tones, Kyrra tells you, "The ladies must love you immensely." - (Eleusian Ranger Techs): Savira says, "Most of the hard stuff seem to have this built in code like: If adventurer_hitting_me = "Sarathai" then send("terminate and selfdestruct")." - Makarios says, "Serve well and perish." - Xaden says, "Xaden confirmed scrub 2017."
(The Sefyric Mariners Guild): Bronislav says, "I like to pop out of
harbours for people I have absolutely no problem with, and yell, "Stop
right there, criminal scum!""
He's not lying! from yesterday:
You see Shieldwarden @BronislavZviera yell, "Stop right there, criminal scum!"
At least that's better than Ellodin yell-singing "Ellodin is coming.. to get you!" in the tune of Santa Claus is coming to town as you undock from a harbour.
"Mummy, I'm hungry, but there's no one to eat! :C"
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Of course, usually nobody's around when I am, either (clearly timezone abuse). A couple of weeks back, I'm pretty sure I was the only Eleusian online at all, unless there were a couple offplane for over an hour.
- With sharp, crackling tones, Kyrra tells you, "The ladies must love you immensely."
- (Eleusian Ranger Techs): Savira says, "Most of the hard stuff seem to have this built in code like: If adventurer_hitting_me = "Sarathai" then send("terminate and selfdestruct")."
- Makarios says, "Serve well and perish."
- Xaden says, "Xaden confirmed scrub 2017."
Exhibit A: Jester balloons. In researching the history of inflatable toy balloons, I found that the earliest examples of balloons were in fact made from pig bladders and animal intestines. The Aztecs used such balloons. The first rubber balloons were made in 1824, from caoutchouc, or "natural rubber", made from the latex of rubber trees. I would like to believe that jester balloons are made from such material, but if not, the idea of floating around on giraffe-shaped pig bladders is quite hysterical.
Exhibit B: Toy bouncing balls from Caer Witrin. The bouncy ball is actually a modern invention, having been made in 1965, from scraps of highly compressed rubber.
Artemis says, "You are so high maintenance, Tharvis, gosh."
Tecton says, "It's still your fault, Tharvis."
Rubber duckies still seem pretty OOC though.
(The Vota Aeterna): @Saeva says, "What a poor fishing venture for the amount of time I was out."
That love soon might end You are unbreaking
And be known in its aching Though quaking
Shown in this shaking Though crazy
Lately of my wasteland, baby That's just wasteland, baby
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anything for them xp gains amirite
Natural rubber was apparently used by Mesoamericans since prehistoric times, including some kind of curing process analogous to vulcanisation. Natural latex has been refined from tree and other plant sap on a large scale since the mid-1700s. This fits with the timeline of Achaea's generally pre-industrial-but-still-metropolised fantasy setting.
Modern vulcanisation was not developed until the 19th century, and the process is important to give rubber a less tacky surface and make it resilient against temperature changes. I don't know how flexible or resilient this type of crudely refined latex would be, without developments driven by industry in the 19th and 20th century, but balloons seem plausible. They become more plausible if you accept magic as an explanation, which is why I like the theory that faerie magic ("I wish") has some unknown involvement in jester props. Balloon giraffes still stupid tho.
- With sharp, crackling tones, Kyrra tells you, "The ladies must love you immensely."
- (Eleusian Ranger Techs): Savira says, "Most of the hard stuff seem to have this built in code like: If adventurer_hitting_me = "Sarathai" then send("terminate and selfdestruct")."
- Makarios says, "Serve well and perish."
- Xaden says, "Xaden confirmed scrub 2017."
from yesterday:
You see Shieldwarden @BronislavZviera yell, "Stop right there, criminal scum!"