so then, there is no way now to have a chance with larger fish. So it is better for me to stick to 70 gold bait, since with those I can still reel them in.
Sometimes with Surgeon and Pike, before I even get a chance to reel, they snap my line
It seems anything of "above-average" and "good one", I near never catch.
@Kayeil that's what I was getting at - lots of misinformation floating around. Yes, everyone is on an 'even' keel, but where that keel sits is debated highly. There are three or four possibilities.
a) That deepsea fishing is not affected by either survival or higher seafaring. I have noticed those without higher seafaring/survival seem to do much poorer at deep sea fishing, but it could be a very strange coincidence.
b) That seafaring does affect it, but survival doesn't. This seems likely from what I've seen.
Though seriously...what happened to fishing to make it this bad...I am unable to effectively catch large fish anymore, simply medium. I just did a run and for the same amount of gold for Medium or Large bait, I actually am making more of an income from Medium, rather than Large which I would lose several of my investments to the fish.
Though seriously...what happened to fishing to make it this bad...I am unable to effectively catch large fish anymore, simply medium. I just did a run and for the same amount of gold for Medium or Large bait, I actually am making more of an income from Medium, rather than Large which I would lose several of my investments to the fish.
I always thought that was the point. The large bait costs more and are risker (harder to catch) with a higher possible return than the middle or small bait. Middle should be cheaper and produce more reliable results, but give less profit than what you could potentially earn with large bait.
Fresh water fishing has always been awful. I can see why, it's a big gold farm with little risk, but it'd be nice if it was at least as good as hunting at a mid level.
Though seriously...what happened to fishing to make it this bad...I am unable to effectively catch large fish anymore, simply medium. I just did a run and for the same amount of gold for Medium or Large bait, I actually am making more of an income from Medium, rather than Large which I would lose several of my investments to the fish.
I always thought that was the point. The large bait costs more and are risker (harder to catch) with a higher possible return than the middle or small bait. Middle should be cheaper and produce more reliable results, but give less profit than what you could potentially earn with large bait.
But potentially in this case is near never going to happen. Middle bait is going to give more a profit than Large bait near all the time. The thing is, since 70 is a minimum feet now, a large fish could from the get-go get 1 to 2 strong pulls and break the line, before I have a chance to tucker it out.
Anyway, I suppose my questions were answered. Thanks to those that helped.
Freshwater fishing: Things that matter are survival, trait, bait type, and location (river vs lake). Large bait on rivers (since river fish are stronger) has never seemed like a good choice to me, even with high strength when strength mattered. Large bait on lakes is okay, but still seems slower than medium bait on rivers (which is likely the best choice at trans survival).
Deepsea fishing: What matters is survival, trait, and how far you cast (short/medium/long). Seafaring doesn't make a difference beyond giving you the ability to deepsea fish, according to Tecton (I can try to find the quote if needed). Bait type also doesn't matter, carp and bass are identical despite the difference in price (I think this was also confirmed by Tecton, but I may be misremembering that).
Freshwater fishing: Things that matter are survival, trait, bait type, and location (river vs lake). Large bait on rivers (since river fish are stronger) has never seemed like a good choice to me, even with high strength when strength mattered. Large bait on lakes is okay, but still seems slower than medium bait on rivers (which is likely the best choice at trans survival).
Deepsea fishing: What matters is survival, trait, and how far you cast (short/medium/long). Seafaring doesn't make a difference beyond giving you the ability to deepsea fish, according to Tecton (I can try to find the quote if needed). Bait type also doesn't matter, carp and bass are identical despite the difference in price (I think this was also confirmed by Tecton, but I may be misremembering that).
Source for seafaring not affecting it is here. Do you have a source on survival affecting deepsea fishing? I've always thought it didn't, but have never managed to find confirmation when it occurred to me.
Hopefully this cleared up some questions for other people too, even if not all of them.
Are the relics going to be disabled the entire Y700 games?
* Our first Championship event starts tomorrow - the Twins Combat Tourney! The event will commence at 1700 GMT (12pm EST, 9am PST). We'll have registrations opening at 1630 and will run until 1705. No more registrations will be accepted after 1705, so make sure you're here early and prepared. Note: Relics and rare mineral effects will be disabled for this and other Championship events.
Certainly sounds like that means all events. Obviously only during the actual events, though, not just disabled completely for the whole year.
Hopefully this cleared up some questions for other people too, even if not all of them.
Are the relics going to be disabled the entire Y700 games?
* Our first Championship event starts tomorrow - the Twins Combat Tourney! The event will commence at 1700 GMT (12pm EST, 9am PST). We'll have registrations opening at 1630 and will run until 1705. No more registrations will be accepted after 1705, so make sure you're here early and prepared. Note: Relics and rare mineral effects will be disabled for this and other Championship events.
Certainly sounds like that means all events. Obviously only during the actual events, though, not just disabled completely for the whole year.
RELIC STATUS turns up zero results now, though. Thinking it might just be disabled the whole year or they forgot to turn them back on.
Do you have a source on survival affecting deepsea fishing? I've always thought it didn't, but have never managed to find confirmation when it occurred to me.
I don't think I've ever tested it specifically (or seen any admin confirm it), just seen that people who deepsea fish with low survival tend to to terribly, and I've always assumed it still mattered. HELP FISHING suggests that survival affects either type of fishing, but it's possible that the way it's worded is just left over from before deepsea fishing.
It makes the most logical sense to me that your actual skill in Fishing comes entirely from Survival. Seafaring does nothing but unlock the ability to deep-sea fish.
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Yeah any serious deepsea fisher has this trait. Very easily the difference between landing and losing a trophy fish. Not that I still don't lose a lot.
Lucky is 2%, 10% would be... well you'd have dragons fighting over it to use it constantly. 2% is still pretty good at a higher level, especially for a whole 12 hours if you hunt a lot.
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Sometimes with Surgeon and Pike, before I even get a chance to reel, they snap my line
It seems anything of "above-average" and "good one", I near never catch.
a) That deepsea fishing is not affected by either survival or higher seafaring. I have noticed those without higher seafaring/survival seem to do much poorer at deep sea fishing, but it could be a very strange coincidence.
b) That seafaring does affect it, but survival doesn't. This seems likely from what I've seen.
c) That both affect deep sea fishing.
d) Unlikely, but that just survival does.
But potentially in this case is near never going to happen. Middle bait is going to give more a profit than Large bait near all the time. The thing is, since 70 is a minimum feet now, a large fish could from the get-go get 1 to 2 strong pulls and break the line, before I have a chance to tucker it out.
Anyway, I suppose my questions were answered. Thanks to those that helped.
Are the relics going to be disabled the entire Y700 games?
Deepsea fishing: What matters is survival, trait, and how far you cast (short/medium/long). Seafaring doesn't make a difference beyond giving you the ability to deepsea fish, according to Tecton (I can try to find the quote if needed). Bait type also doesn't matter, carp and bass are identical despite the difference in price (I think this was also confirmed by Tecton, but I may be misremembering that).
Certainly sounds like that means all events. Obviously only during the actual events, though, not just disabled completely for the whole year.
That love soon might end You are unbreaking
And be known in its aching Though quaking
Shown in this shaking Though crazy
Lately of my wasteland, baby That's just wasteland, baby
Master Angler ~5%-20% bonus to reeling, depending on fish type, freshwater vs ocean, and other things.
Which would facilitate in the landing/catching of the bigger and more aggressive fish which you may possibly lose due to short reels.
I don't know if it's advertised but I would guess it at a 10% boost