WWK

Zuko

Hey!

So now that WWK strips defences off our opponents, could we turn it into a denizen friendly kick that us Monks could use to break denizen shields while hunting? That would be amazing. Thank you!

Pretty please!

Monks are one of the few classes that lack a shield breaking skill naturally!

Tesha

Monks are probably good enough at bashing already, I think. Definitely the fastest in the game as they are, another buff would just be a little silly.

Shirszae

I love how one of the tags is 'please'  )

Bonko

This is what happens when overpowered monks ask for more overpowered shit:

 ID D Submitter       Ability         Problem        

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 24 R Penwize         Kaitrance       Gaining kai from allies has become a lon

 56 R Penwize         Sweepkick       Missing an SWK combo ruins a limb setup

 57 R Penwize         Roundhouse      RHK used to be a targettable, low limb d

 58 R Penwize         Travel          Monk's general lack of hindering ability

 59 A Penwize         Dragoncurse     Targetted dragoncurse was a really inter

 60 R Penwize         Balloons        With a shackle of Garash, Jesters can in

128 R Penwize         Prismatic barri Hitting a prismatic barrier currently do

187 R Penwize         New             Monks currently have no class-specific w

188 R Penwize         Kaibanish       KAI BANISH is currently extremely easy t

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Atalkez

Yes, because we all know Monks need an increase in their skills.

They certainly don't have enough.

GG

Antonius

There are very few classes that can actually remove denizen shields right now, even if a lot of them have methods of removing them from other players. This definitely doesn't seem like something Monk needs though, just wait for them to attack next.

Blujixapug

Monks don't need to be able to wwk;ucp;ucp NPCs. Their bashing is already among the best.

Synbios

I tried to WWK M. Bison with Akuma, and the fascist bastard just blocked my multi-hit attack just like that. Thus, rejected.

Makarios

That'll teach you to play as Akuma. Disgraceful.

Cooper

Tecton has said a lot that he wants monks to have to use a hammer tattoo.

Back in the day I suggested RHK to break shields with an equilibrium cost and that was denied.

Karai

Would be awesome but yeah, now that we don't have to re-stance every time we move, it's not necessary. I'm not sure that even in combat it would be necessary as annoying as shields are. Even being int-spec the bashing is still good.

Trey

Honestly, if it had the same delay regaining balance as a hammer tat, @Cooper's idea is fine. Plenty of things mimic the effect, and with trans tattoos it isn't as if you're hurting for slots anyway.

Penwize

That was the intention of my classlead 187, with the added inclusion of handling deafness.  Now that WWK handles deafness, it could do the same as a hammer tattoo.  Unfortunately, the decision on it was that they're happy with monks needing hammer tattoos.

Nemutaur

Penwize said:

That was the intention of my classlead 187, with the added inclusion of handling deafness.  Now that WWK handles deafness, it could do the same as a hammer tattoo.  Unfortunately, the decision on it was that they're happy with monks needing hammer tattoos.

A shield stripping kick would be a little overpowered. shieldKick + punch + punch does seem unfair. But hey, with drs a hammer tat is super quick anyway, throw in a diadem and lethal ink and I have a 1.2-1.3s hammer tat. Winning.

Penwize

Nemutaur said:

Penwize said:

That was the intention of my classlead 187, with the added inclusion of handling deafness.  Now that WWK handles deafness, it could do the same as a hammer tattoo.  Unfortunately, the decision on it was that they're happy with monks needing hammer tattoos.

A shield stripping kick would be a little overpowered. shieldKick + punch + punch does seem unfair. But hey, with drs a hammer tat is super quick anyway, throw in a diadem and lethal ink and I have a 1.2-1.3s hammer tat. Winning.

Classlead 187 wasn't a shield stripping kick, it was a telepathy ability to strip shield, which would avoid that issue.

Seftin

There were nerfs?

Blujixapug

Stuff monks need more than this:

- psycombat
- Tekura stances that vary cosmetically based on House, eg. Black Lotus would get willow stance, Ebon Fist get mantis stance, Ashura get tiger stance
- luchadore masks

Iocun

Daeir said:

Yeah, I don't think telepathy needs any more strength.

I actually think it does, just not this kind of strength.

Fighting int monks can be so much more fun than fighting str monks.

Also, yes, psycombat.

Daslin

@Blujixapug I'd like to refer you to @Gibbi's thread about luchadore type warrors

Gibbi

Daslin said:

@Blujixapug I'd like to refer you to @Gibbi's thread about luchadore type warrors

Actually, they're not supposed to be just... know what, forget it. They can layeth the smackdown and ignore the other abilities

Blujixapug

Gibbi said:

@Blujixapug I'd like to refer you to @Gibbi's thread about luchadore type warrors

Actually, they're not supposed to be just... know what, forget it. They can layeth the smackdown and ignore the other abilities

Ha ha, turned your barbarians into wrestlers! :ar!

Iocun

Oh, they weren't meant to be wrestlers? But they had abilities like piledriver and flying elbow...

Blujixapug

Iocun said:

Oh, they weren't meant to be wrestlers? But they had abilities like piledriver and flying elbow...

I assume it was like vikings getting rowdy on mead and getting into brawls. Vaulting tables to deliver a spinning piledriver to secure the last zelahia wing from Grolf the Burly.

Penwize

Daeir said:

you have high damage/affliction capacity

Monks only have a high affliction capacity in groups because a few telepathy abilities complement certain other affliction classes.  There's not much they can do with their afflictions on their own right now though, making telepathy monks fairly non-viable outside of group scenarios.

Xli

The advantage of a telepathy monk as it stands at the moment, other than helping with other afflction classes, is the pool of mana from which to transmute.

Jhui

int/eq monk is one of the most fun things in the world.

mind command is fast enough to use on every combo, telepathy can be done prone and quickly hinder your opponent while they're trying to finish a setup.

you can do things like enfeeble/crush/choke after a sip/moss and complete all 3 before they are able to sip again (instakills a few people).

In melee you don't have to worry about being hindered because you're just an enfeeble/choke bot with likely higher or equivalent DPS than axk/bbt bots.

Iocun

Not saying that tele/kaido monks are bad by any means. But they'll certainly struggle to get kills in 1v1 fights without being heavily artied.

Nemutaur

Int kaido/telepathy monk is the truth in raids, it's something that can make or break an encounter with the enemy. 

But if you're running around with 12 strength (or probably less really since you're going for the full int) then there's just some classes you'll never be able to kill 1v1. 14 Strength seems to be a very nice sweet spot for getting pretty much every class except for dual shield wielding full plate wearing sons of a dogs.

Granted I never had quick-witted as Int spec (haven't been Int spec for like 2-3 months now), but I can't see myself winning a duel with 12 strength against a high armoured target even if I have the advantage of blindingly quick afflicting.

EDIT: do have an aldar talisman/diadem though so that's pretty much the same as QW without having it.

Davio

I was going to switch from int monk because I wanted to change after not being able to stand 45 rooms out in the area and crush people to death.

The last few raids and encounters and nearly killing Terra while locked with just enfeeble and kai choke spam made me change my mind, though.

Though, my artifact list has like 33 items. I'll probably upgrade my collar or sash and just make it worse instead.

No to WWK breaking shield. That's what this thread was about, right?

Iocun

Oh, nobody was saying their defence was weak, by any means. But transmuting doesn't kill your opponents.

Nellaundra

With Int monk though you can't get the 80% BBTs that people all complain about though!  =((