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Gold Drops

PenwizePenwize Member Posts: 1,491 @@ - Legendary Achaean
It's a pretty common thing for people to have triggers to grab gold when it drops from a mob.  This'll often lead to the situation of people stealing your gold, either intentionally, by walking by you or stopping to talk while you kill things.  It's especially a problem when fighting a high-reward target, having someone stand there waiting for you to kill it, then snag your reward as it drops.

I think it should be changed to simply give you the gold as you kill something, since you already grab their corpse.  Why not the gold too?  It would also alleviate the need for absolutely everyone who hunts to have the same gold-grabbing trigger.
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  • IocunIocun Member Posts: 3,506 @@ - Legendary Achaean
    I'm with @Silas on this one. The status quo is preferable for many group hunting situations.
    ShirszaeKaitali
  • NimNim Member Posts: 2,015 @@ - Legendary Achaean
    Could just add a super MMO-y system for gold loot distribution! I mean, it'd be super MMO-y but hey!
  • AzorAzor Member Posts: 145
    My script only grabs the gold if I myself killed the thing. Anyway, this is a fairly minor way people can antagonize one another if they choose, and I don't think it should be removed.
    LiancaSenaJosoul
  • NiraaethNiraaeth Member Posts: 123 ✭✭✭ - Distinguished
    edited December 2013
    I'd like this, but only if we can turn this option on and off in case we're hunting in a group.


    EDIT: Alternatively, can someone point me to a script like @Azor's? I'm a terrible coder. :(
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    YaeKyriella
  • SantarSantar Member Posts: 2,382 @@ - Legendary Achaean
    edited December 2013
    Trigger: ^You have slain (.*).$

    Content: goldget = 1

    Trigger: Your generic system triggers for EQ/balance. Add in the following:

    Content: 

    if goldget == 1 then
    send("get gold")
    send("put gold in pack")
    send("get shard")
    end

    Trigger: ^You pick(.*)gold sovereigns.$ Can't remember the exact line, something like that.

    Content: needgold = 0


    Also, to the idea: No. Would really hate it if that was implemented. System works absolutely fine as is, and I don't really see how this is ever being abused. Worst case someone gets a few hundred gold from you.

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    Niraaeth
  • SilasSilas Member Posts: 2,542 @@ - Legendary Achaean
    (?:pick|scoop)

  • SantarSantar Member Posts: 2,382 @@ - Legendary Achaean
    who bashes while mounted.

    who bashes while not in dform.

    c'mon man.

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    Sylvance
  • PenwizePenwize Member Posts: 1,491 @@ - Legendary Achaean
    Santar said:
    Worst case someone gets a few hundred gold from you.

    Eh, try a few thousand, not a few hundred.  Have had it happen on big mobs I've killed and such.
  • BlujixapugBlujixapug Member Posts: 1,833 @@ - Legendary Achaean
    I like the small imperfections that leave potential for interesting social interaction. Gold drops, that other people may snag. The Prisoner's Dilemma that is mercantile transactions in this game (well, up until they banned 'scams'). Everything about city politics.
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    SenaShirszae
  • CooperCooper IowaMember Posts: 4,979 @@ - Legendary Achaean
    Penwize said:
    Santar said:
    Worst case someone gets a few hundred gold from you.

    Eh, try a few thousand, not a few hundred.  Have had it happen on big mobs I've killed and such.
    Solution: kill the person waiting to steal the gold before you kill the mob.

    AntidasHhaos
  • XerXer LangleyMember Posts: 804
    edited December 2013
    Why is Santar's get gold trigger exactly the same as mine, down to the variable names D: But yes, I also believe it's fine as it is - I can pick up all the gold and jib that scrub Hasar whenever we hunt together by giving him more. NOW HE'S IN MY DEBT WITH ACCRUING INTEREST AT -100% PER SECOND.

    EDIT: Nvm, mine's getgold, but close enough!
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    e^(iπ) + 1 = 0
  • SkyeSkye The Duchess BellatereMember, Seafaring Liason Posts: 2,909 @@ - Legendary Achaean
    you know that now everyone sees how much gold you pick up, right? So technically if he really wanted, he could keep track of how much you really get >_>


  • NimNim Member Posts: 2,015 @@ - Legendary Achaean

    Someday, you guys will only get a single gold sovereign from an enemy, and you will be so disappointed that you'll just keep trying to pick up gold until you get more.

    And it'll be just so depressing.

    (no but seriously, sovereigns?\. not sovereigns.)

  • CynlaelCynlael Member Posts: 3,257 @@ - Legendary Achaean
    edited December 2013
    expandAlias("do get gold") :/

    You folks and your variable nonsense. (Both for seeing gold on ground, or when it drops.)

    Rom
  • DaeirDaeir AustraliaMember Posts: 6,276 @@ - Legendary Achaean
    edited December 2013
    You're all pansies. Why are none of you using gmcp for this? YOU'RE ALL MAD.

    if gmcp.Char.Items.Add.item.name == "some gold sovereigns" and gmcp.Char.Items.Add.location == "room" then

        svo.doaddfree("take sovereigns")

        svo.doaddfree("put sovereigns in kitbag")

    end


  • PenwizePenwize Member Posts: 1,491 @@ - Legendary Achaean
    See, everyone here has a trigger for it.  If it's something absolutely everyone is already going to trigger, and it's a potential avenue for grief, why not just make it automatic like corpses already are?

    As for the just killing them option, I'm under the impression that taking gold drops doesn't count as theft and isn't a valid reason to attack someone, similar to how kill stealing is viewed?  With how certain people are with issues, that's somewhat important, as much as I wish it wasn't.
    SylvanceShirszaeBlujixapug
  • NemutaurNemutaur GermanyMember Posts: 1,068
    Penwize said:
    As for the just killing them option, I'm under the impression that taking gold drops doesn't count as theft and isn't a valid reason to attack someone, similar to how kill stealing is viewed?  With how certain people are with issues, that's somewhat important, as much as I wish it wasn't.
    To me it's a valid reason and that's all I need. If someone takes gold and doesn't even apologise and offer it back, even after I ask them what the deal is, then I'll look to kill them.
    Sybilla
  • CooperCooper IowaMember Posts: 4,979 @@ - Legendary Achaean
    #trigger {You have recovered balance on all limbs.} {get gold}
    #trigger {You do not see} {#gag}

  • DraekarDraekar Member Posts: 290 ✭✭✭✭ - Eminent
    Cooper said:
    #trigger {You have recovered balance on all limbs.} {get gold}
    #trigger {You do not see} {#gag}
    Should add a get body to that as well for group melee :)
  • CooperCooper IowaMember Posts: 4,979 @@ - Legendary Achaean
    That is pretty amusing to me, because I never thought of doing that ever. Most of the time I'm holding down attack macros, but I bet it would have snagged me so many TFs offering to Hermes doing that.

  • MelodieMelodie Port Saint Lucie, FloridaMember Posts: 5,006 @@ - Legendary Achaean
    I just do get gold; put gold in pouch.

    Silly people and your triggers.
    "You have had an extraordinary adventure, my dear. Extraordinary! One that few people could ever imagine. Treasure it. Keep it safe and secure, tucked away in some special place in your heart. 

    But... don't spend the rest of your days chasing a ghost."
    Sylvance
  • KiushaKiusha Member Posts: 16 ✭✭ - Stalwart
    Manual is much more fun, you get things like:

    There is no "hold" for you to take.
    SylvanceTeghainePraxides
  • HasarHasar Member Posts: 795 @ - Epic Achaean
    I manual everything.

    What's a system?

    Anaidiana
  • IocunIocun Member Posts: 3,506 @@ - Legendary Achaean
    I also never used a trigger for picking up gold.
    Hhaos
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