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A couple different basic magi questions..

ZukoZuko Member Posts: 730 ✭✭✭✭✭ - Grand Achaean
Hi! Haven't come across any veteran magi's of late within my city so just had a couple of questions..

1.) Which artefacts other than stat altering ones should I be looking into as a mage?

2.) What specific order should I embed my vibes in? Which vibes and should I lay the important ones first or last in order to ensure they take the longest to rid of?

3.) What are some good stats, high int and constitution I am assuming? How high? 

Thanks so much!


  • AntoniusAntonius Member Posts: 4,991 @@ - Legendary Achaean
    Zuko said:
    Hi! Haven't come across any veteran magi's of late within my city so just had a couple of questions..

    1.) Which artefacts other than stat altering ones should I be looking into as a mage?

    Not sure if you're including collar in stat altering artefacts or not, diadem/talisman for faster equilibrium recovery, tuning fork is probably worth picking up for longer lasting vibes, torc is pretty great for retardation. Defensive artefacts (health sip and regen rings, buckawn's amulet) are always worthwhile, regardless of class. If budget wasn't a factor at all, I'd suggest mana sip and regen rings as well. Maybe a bow for meteors/additional ranged when you can't get a cataclysm?
  • ZukoZuko Member Posts: 730 ✭✭✭✭✭ - Grand Achaean
    Perfect, Thanks! Just needed some idea of where to begin! 
  • KlendathuKlendathu Eye of the StormMember Posts: 3,178 @@ - Legendary Achaean

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  • AustereAustere TennesseeMember Posts: 2,341 @@ - Legendary Achaean
    edited November 2014
    Always SoA first.  People who don't are just crazy.  Then I would go collar.  Keep upgrading until level 2. I bought a level 1 sash before level three collar, though.  I have no clue on which one actually does more damage, though
  • XithXith Member Posts: 2,602 @@ - Legendary Achaean
    SoA, artie pipes. Those are standard for almost every class.
    TUNING FORK is ideal for Magi to preserve your vibes.
    Some defensive, bracelet and belt. Collar and sash for damage.
    mana regen ring. Health sip ring. Might even recommend Robes of the Magi in the long run.

    For vibe order, if you must do a full set, spin the ones you don't want in retardation first. Heat should be the very first if you must spin it at all. But if you like to deepfreeze immediately after embedding retardation, I advised against using Heat at all.
    After that, something like:
    - Creeps
    - Silence
    - Alarm
    - Adduction
    - Revelation
    Those are essentially your buffer vibes. Follow with DAMAGE:
    - Dissipate
    - Palpitation
    - Harmony
    (- Gravity) <-- keep later down the list if you're facing someone who wants to fly out of vibes
    - Crystalforest
    - Dissonance
    - Energise
    And finish with the HINDERING and AFFLICTION:
    - Disorientation
    - Stridulation
    - Oscillate
    - Tremors
    - Lullaby
    - Plague

    The most powerful are oscillate, tremors, lullaby, and plague, very good at keeping them prone and unable to escape or attack.
    Note that this only matters if you'll be fighting in retardation. Otherwise just spin the damage set and hit them hard outside retardation.
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  • ErnamErnam Member Posts: 2,416 ✭✭✭✭✭ - Grand Achaean
    edited November 2014
    Zuko said:

    1.) Which artefacts other than stat altering ones should I be looking into as a mage?

    3.) What are some good stats, high int and constitution I am assuming? How high? 

    Your first artefact should be SoA, followed by Aldar Diadem.  With quick-witted, you're looking at 30% eq reduction, which means 30% more DPS, and significantly faster diagnose/shield/reflect/bloodboil/vibes, etc.

    For bashing, SoA and bracelets (not belt).  You get more health per credit, and you get a bunch more max mana too.  Don't buy con stat as a magi unless you have credits to burn.  Magi also has massive damage mitigation.  You should focus on your offense, not tanking.  You can use magi's ridiculous damage reduction, combined with reflection, superfast shields, aerial, and so on, if you're having issues tanking.  Sip ring is also one of the first things you should buy for bashing (and PVP).

    For PVP, buy a torc and/or bow.  You can kill 90% of the people in the game using nothing but vibes + retardation + mind paralyze/delph arrows.  Hopefully some day this will get fixed, but until then, may as well use it.  Everyone else does.

    Int/Collar are seriously overrated.  Sure, you can do outrageous DPS/spikes with artied magi, but very few people are going to just stand there and let you do it - and you have little to no hindrance.  Every "good" magi fighter I've ever met doesn't rely on damage to win.  In fact, doing nothing but super artied magi DPS, you're basically forcing people to slow prep you, because almost nobody can actually tank it without leaving your room.  With all that said, Int will help you keep your mana pool full, as will a mana sip/regen ring, and higher Int gives you more WP, which magi can burn through pretty quickly.

    Re: sash vs collar.  Sash is better purely because you get more mana/WP as well as higher damage attacks.  There are also multiple tertiary benefits such as being harder to maintain mind locks, etc.  You should think of Int as almost the same thing as a "sip ring", because unlike health, almost everything in the game that uses mana uses fixed amounts.  A focus with a low max mana might be 7%, where if you had a high max mana, it might only be 3%.  Sames goes for all of your attacks, etc, and this combines with actually using sip bonus/regen to the point where you can almost ignore your mana use most of the time.

    Collar is cheap, but you should only buy a level 1 if at all.  The other major bad thing about Collars is that unlike Sashes, it's useless for most classes.  Few people get far into magi combat before deciding it's incredibly boring, and class changing.  A sash, on the other hand, is good to keep no matter what class you change to.
  • ErnamErnam Member Posts: 2,416 ✭✭✭✭✭ - Grand Achaean

    Also, look into Riding and getting a mount.  Block and Trample are incredibly valuable, and the additional damage reduction and dodging sure doesn't hurt.

    Also, this should go without saying, but don't buy artefacts unless you already have Trans Avoidance, and Philo, Antidotes, Fitness, etc.  Would even recommend Trans Vision before most arties.

  • StorilStoril Member Posts: 16 ✭✭ - Stalwart
    I am having trouble with conjuration. I have been trying to conjure a fist sigil. I have the ability and the comms. Everything is still blowing up. I realize blow-ups will happen every now and then but I feel there is something about the timing. waiting too long between actions or not long enough maybe. How long should I wait between actions in the ritual to create a fist sigil?I am up to 4 seconds, and am still losing everything. Any help is appreciated.
  • CaliraCalira Member, Secret Squirrel Posts: 572 ✭✭✭✭ - Eminent
    Don't wait at all, just do each action as soon as you can. Make sure that your working ouroboros is empty before you put comms in, too.
  • SaevaSaeva Member Posts: 1,944 @@ - Legendary Achaean
    it blows up when you do a wrong step D: There is a svo script for it, and if you're having to build a script for html (I don't know if they have it yet?) then you just have to be very sure you're doing the right actions, in the right order to completion. Manual conjuration is a pain in the booty.

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