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How do you play?

KhurganKhurgan Member Posts: 4
I did a search and found lots of very specific client advice (scripts, html5 help, etc.) but nothing really about people's preferred methods of play generally.
Apologies in advance if this has been done to death and my search-fu has failed me.

Personally I have been playing completely "naked"...... in a virtual console.
With the HTML5 update just released I am looking at the alternatives, but I like the full screen, no distractions aspect of the terminal. There are no other tabs or notifications drawing me away. It's just a black screen with text. Within a few minutes I'm immersed.

Sooooo - how do you guys/gals play?
I'd also like to hear what people like and don't like about the various options, ie: terminal vs client vs html
UtianimaVanceroth

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  • ShirszaeShirszae Santo DomingoMember Posts: 3,265 @@ - Legendary Achaean
    edited June 2015
    Mudlet when I can, android client when I shouldn't.

    Theoretically I'd love to be able to use the html5 client on my mobile, but I haven't figured how to keep android Opera client from refreshing the window (and thus disconnecting me) every time I minimize the window.  

    Someday, perhaps

    And you won't understand the cause of your grief...


    ...But you'll always follow the voices beneath.

    Utianima
  • SarapisSarapis Member, Administrator Posts: 3,398 Achaean staff
    Khurgan said:
    I did a search and found lots of very specific client advice (scripts, html5 help, etc.) but nothing really about people's preferred methods of play generally.
    Apologies in advance if this has been done to death and my search-fu has failed me.

    Personally I have been playing completely "naked"...... in a virtual console.
    With the HTML5 update just released I am looking at the alternatives, but I like the full screen, no distractions aspect of the terminal. There are no other tabs or notifications drawing me away. It's just a black screen with text. Within a few minutes I'm immersed.

    Sooooo - how do you guys/gals play?
    I'd also like to hear what people like and don't like about the various options, ie: terminal vs client vs html
    You know you can just configure the HTML5 client to be nothing but the output window, the input line, and the very bottom bar?

    Just right-click in it and start unchecking things.
    KhurganBorranUtianimaVanceroth
  • DrodakDrodak Member Posts: 84 ✭✭✭ - Distinguished
    I play with mainly mudlet and occasionally mushclient. I prefer the look and feel of mushclient more as it I like the oldschool aesthetic. Mudlet wins out for me because of the mountains of free|paid scripts floating around and tons of support. I must admit the html5 client sure looks pretty cool.
  • DortheronDortheron Member Posts: 343 ✭✭✭✭ - Eminent
    Mudlet on PC. I started on old Nexus and then moved on I wanted a stronger client and better coding. While I don't have any of the fancy stuff that some people have, I pretty have Svo, Mudlet mapper, and my own horribly written code. I've gotten the basics of Mudlet and Lua down, I think, so I can survive and make my own stuff with relative comfort.
    You know, that one thing at that one place, with that one person.

    Yea, that one!
    Shirszae
  • SenaSena Member Posts: 3,957 @@ - Legendary Achaean
    For the first maybe 2-3 years I played, I used the old in-browser java client. It wasn't anywhere near as fancy as the HTML5 client, just a plain terminal window embedded in the page with a textured border around it, and health/mana/endurance/willpower gauges under it. It had support for very basic scripting (it could handle maybe 30 or so triggers, if they weren't too complex, and it had multi-command aliases back when the game itself didn't), and that was fine for me at the time.

    Later, when I started wanting to use scripts, I would occasionally switch to MUSHclient (and zMUD even later) for a little while; for example, switching to MUSHclient just long enough to automatically inscribe a big batch of tarot cards, then going back to java for actually playing, or switching to zMUD to use a fishing script (after a couple bugs that made fully manual fishing practical were fixed). I didn't do this very often though, I still used the java client 95% of the time.

    The first step towards the current style of complex browser-based clients was called Nexus. It had fancier artwork and more complex (though still pretty limited) scripting. In fact, it seems it's still available (http://achaea.com/nexus/), but back then it didn't have any of the stuff on the right side (the character stats and all the other tabs), the most complex part of the GUI was the compass that displays the available exits and can be clicked to move. For whatever reason, I absolutely hated it, and would have simply stopped playing Achaea if I didn't already know about 3rd party clients (the old java client was actually still available if you knew the URL, so I continued to use that for a while, but it was eventually removed entirely so Nexus was the only official client available).

    I also disliked zMUD back then, but it was better than the alternatives, so that's what I switched to. There were a lot of free scripts available for zMUD, so I started using them, then fixing bugs in them, then making changes to them, then learning the language and actually writing scripts myself. From there, scripting became one of the main things I enjoyed about Achaea, a big part of why I've been playing for 12+ years.

    I still use zMUD, though by now it's very outdated, slow, and unsupported with a lot of bugs remaining. I've been wanting to switch to Mudlet for a long time, but it would take weeks, maybe months to rewrite my huge assortment of triggers and scripts in a new, unfamiliar language (I'm occasionally tempted to switch to HTML5 instead, since I'm already familiar with javascript, but Mudlet would most likely be easier in the long run).


    As for what I like and dislike about the various options: I also prefer minimalism when it comes to the UI, for most of the time I've been playing my screen pretty much just looked like this, barely more complex than a terminal window (though I did end up adding some health/mana/endurance/willpower gauges at the bottom, since I'd gotten accustomed to them from the java client).

    When ships were released though, a separate window showing the ocean map and various other information became pretty vital, there was no way I could follow a huge map that took up most of the screen the screen scrolling by every second or two, and I definitely couldn't read any other text at the same time, or keep track of the information in the ship prompt. So I made a status window off to the side (it was just empty, wasted space anyways, with the text being wrapped so it only took up about 2/3 the width of the screen), like this. Later on, during the massive spam of a world event, I quickly whipped up a channel capture script for the same reason (being able to follow what's going on when there's too much spam to see normally). Being able to do something like that makes a massive difference in usability, no matter how much I prefer a plain, unadorned window.

    GUI aside, as I said scripting is a big part of Achaea for me. My current system for Sena alone (alts are separate) is about 5000 lines or about 552 KB of text, and that's with me actively trimming out old scripts I don't need at the moment so it doesn't get cluttered, which means that almost all of it is stuff that I use reasonably often. Almost every time I play for a significant length of time I end up tinkering with some script at some point, and I often spend more time working on scripts than actually playing. The HTML5 client has developed enough that I can do a similar level of scripting, but it's not user-friendly enough that I can take 10-15 seconds in the middle of a fight to quickly fix bugs or make some small changes to a script. While I got by for the first couple years just fine without any scripting beyond a handful of name highlights (which I had to keep turned off, and only turn them on for a moment while checking qw, since just a few name highlights was enough to slow down the java client a lot), I couldn't really enjoy playing without any scripts at this point. It's extremely nice to know that, if I run into some usability problem in the game or don't like how something works, there's a good chance I can improve it myself.

    The HTML5 client has some advantages over 3rd party clients as well, such as being browser-based and having scripts stored online so I could play just fine from any computer with a modern browser, and coming with useful features like channel and map windows without having to implement them myself.
    KhurganHalos
  • KhurganKhurgan Member Posts: 4
    Wow.... people have some pretty kewl setups.

    I will definitely mess with Mudlet and maybe move on to the HTML if I get stuck...
  • AereidhnaAereidhna DallasMember Posts: 682 ✭✭✭✭✭ - Grand Achaean
    I use Mudlet on a laptop. I want to get a chat box at some point, but I don't really want a more complex GUI - I like the simplicity of Mudlet. I've played on my phone using the site client once or twice when I needed to be present for something but couldn't be in front of my laptop, I can't imagine doing it regularly. I've tried CMUD and the site client on my laptop before. I'm pretty partial to Mudlet.
  • MishgulMishgul ROTHERHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAMMember Posts: 5,372 @@ - Legendary Achaean
    Now that i am playing more often i am working on a switch from mudlet to HTML5. My biggest blocker is my concentration.

    -

    One of the symptoms of an approaching nervous breakdown is the belief that one's work is terribly important

    As drawn by Shayde
    hic locus est ubi mors gaudet succurrere vitae
    Sarapis
  • RohaiRohai Member Posts: 451 ✭✭✭✭✭ - Grand Achaean
    Khurgan said:
    Personally I have been playing completely "naked"
    same

    i have a pretty nice setup in mudlet, too.
    DrodakKhurganKasyaJukilian
  • JonathinJonathin Grand Rapids, MIMember Posts: 3,323 @@ - Legendary Achaean


    I always have to replace all the keys except for "c", "f", and "h". This is why I might as well just sit down and die in any given situation.

    My site will remain up, but will not be maintained. The repository will continue to have scripts added to it if I decide to play another game. Maybe I'll see you around in Starmourn!
    Tutorials and scripts  The Repository

  • RohaiRohai Member Posts: 451 ✭✭✭✭✭ - Grand Achaean
    i would like to see s'mosr pictures of your keyboard please
    KasyaHalos
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