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What happened!? (Also, a question)

IllnamissIllnamiss Member Posts: 9

Hey, everyone.

I used to play Achaea years ago; there wasn't all this fancy music and pictures and stuff, haha. I'm very impressed. When did this all happen? 

One of the reasons I stopped playing was, at some point, it would have been very difficult to progress strength-wise without having first put a bunch of money into the game (which I was not willing to do). Is that still a mechanic?

Also, hi. :D 


  • JukilianJukilian Member Posts: 1,579 @ - Epic Achaean
    The administration is taking some steps to make the game a lot more enjoyable for people on low budgets.

    The credits you receive from leveling have been increased, and they have also brought out super cheap, super awesome lesson packages you can buy (yes I know, money). But these are a bargain compared to the credit packages - $10 for 1000 lessons, and you can get the package twice on each character. That's one guaranteed transcendent (max) skill.
  • DaeirDaeir AustraliaMember Posts: 6,288 @@ - Legendary Achaean
    Illnamiss said:

    One of the reasons I stopped playing was, at some point, it would have been very difficult to progress strength-wise without having first put a bunch of money into the game (which I was not willing to do). Is that still a mechanic?

    Yes, that is still a thing. It is easier to get stronger than it once was, as bound credits gained by leveling are now more substantial than before, and there exists a package for $20 total which nets you 2000 lessons. A substantial investment of money and/or time is still required to achieve the appropriate strength required for PVP for the most part, but you can get by on just about everything else very readily by just playing the game normally.

  • IllnamissIllnamiss Member Posts: 9
    Ah, that's unfortunate.

    One of my [most] favorite parts of MUDs is PvP. Ah, well. I'll try again in another few years, bwahaha.

    (Although, I did read on one thread that it takes ~75 hours of play-time to max all 3 of your class skills w/o putting money into the game? Is this a reasonable estimate?)

  • DaeirDaeir AustraliaMember Posts: 6,288 @@ - Legendary Achaean

    You can trans 1 skill by getting to 85, I think, which is at the very least 30-50 hours of bashing (it's roughly a third of the way to Dragon). The rest will be spent grinding gold quests/bashing for gold, with realistic estimates of about 30-50k an hour depending on availability and the like (probably a lot less in reality). Credits are around 6200 at the moment, so that nets you about 8 credits per hour of bashing assuming the absolute highest (50k). Those 8 credits are 46 lessons, and each skill takes roughly 1710~ lessons to fully learn.

    Keeping this in mind, that's roughly 37 hours of non-stop high-level bashing gold->credit playing just to transcend 1 skill, assuming you are getting 50k an hour minimum.

    75 hours sounds about right, using that logic. But bashing for 50k an hour is difficult (very), especially if you don't know the spots, and there will be other people that will be bashing them as well. This doesn't include the costs for curatives and the like as well.

    Putting that in perspective - it's a long time. 1-60 in vanilla World of Warcraft took about 35-40 hours, and it was considered one of the grindiest end-game progressions of any MMO. It's achievable, but it's a hell of a slog, and it doesn't surprise me that many people (including myself) choose to save themselves the time by investing money into the game instead.

  • IllnamissIllnamiss Member Posts: 9

    Ah, not bad, not bad.

    So, that new package gives you 2000 lessons for $20. That means, upon buying it, you basically get insta-trans?

  • HanleyHanley Member Posts: 188 ✭✭✭ - Distinguished

    They come in 1000 lessons for 10 bucks to be exact. But yes, since you can buy 2 of them to get Trans plus a bit into a second skill.

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  • MishgulMishgul ROTHERHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAMMember Posts: 5,372 @@ - Legendary Achaean

    You can do well without putting money in the game at all. The problem is if you want to do well while trying to fight for a given definition of 'fair'. Otherwise you can just probably pull a @Vaehl and win fights through being 12.


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  • KafzielKafziel Member Posts: 658 ✭✭✭✭✭ - Grand Achaean
    If you're playing on a budget it is imperative to choose your class/race/skills wisely, it can be done though. On this character I transed 5 or 6 skills, changed class and retransed class skills before buying any credits for irl cash. Takes a fair bit of dedication to do it that way but it feels epic when you do it.
  • IllnamissIllnamiss Member Posts: 9

    Oh, very cool.

    If I stick around, I'll be playing a Mhun Jester. 

    I definitely want to stick with Jester, but Mhun just looked the coolest. ;)

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