Hood/veil concealing

Silas

Allow artefact hoods/veils to (possibly optionally) conceal people's faces in room desc's in the same way as a tailored item with a raised hood.

Iocun

Why can't I like and disagree at the same time?

I want to like because it make sense, but I want to disagree because anything that gives benefits to veils is bad and everyone who owns them is bad.

Ryukishi

Bad, everything is bad.  Except for alcohol.  That sssss is amazing.

Xith

Lothien

Obligatory 'update veils by deleting them' comment.

Veldrin

I hate my cloak which clearly has a hood in it's description, but was an house item can't get the hood raise/lower thing Because it wasn't a tailoring design

Antonius

Allowing the RAISE and LOWER commands with them would be the best option, since then you get the choice. Even better if they worked the opposite way for veils, so LOWER concealed and RAISE didn't.

Halos

Raising and lowering a hood is cosmetic, while the effects of a veil are not. While it might be nice to have the raise/lower feature, tying the effects of the veil to it means running about looking like a hoodlum every time we want to check on the location of someone from A-team. I'd be fine with just being able to raise and lower it like the hood on a normal cloak without marrying it to the veil's functionality.

Silas

Perhaps as well, lowering the veil/hood could let non-veiled people sense you while still allowing you to sense people with raised veils/hoods.

Rispok

Issue yourself, it doesn't change the power, to let people sense you have to remove it.

You carefully lower the hood on a Hood of the Sphinx.
You carefully raise the hood on a Hood of the Sphinx.

As for house items, you should have messaged your patron when the change was made, and they would have fixed it for you. Now that you have no house or patron, it's probably too late.

Example: When this change was made, I asked Phaestus to alter the Hooded Sorcerer Cloaks that the merchants tutor sold to have raise/lower hoods. About 12 minutes later, they did, so I just bought a new one as the old one wasn't fixed retroactively.

Tael

I would love this for regular, tailoured veils too. It's weird that people's hoods conceal their faces, while veils don't.

Antonius

Halos said:

Raising and lowering a hood is cosmetic, while the effects of a veil are not. While it might be nice to have the raise/lower feature, tying the effects of the veil to it means running about looking like a hoodlum every time we want to check on the location of someone from A-team. I'd be fine with just being able to raise and lower it like the hood on a normal cloak without marrying it to the veil's functionality.

If this wasn't in response to me, then ignore this (or not, as you choose). If it was, I was talking purely in terms of the cosmetic aspect, not the mechanical aspect of concealing you from locating abilities.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but your face is concealed when a veil is lowered, so having RAISE VEIL add the "his/her face is partially concealed by a veil" line in the room description makes little to no sense.

Eilona

Antonius said:

Correct me if I'm wrong, but your face is concealed when a veil is lowered, so having RAISE VEIL add the "his/her face is partially concealed by a veil" line in the room description makes little to no sense.

That depends. If you're imagining a typical western bridal veil, your way makes sense. If however, you're imagining the type of veil below, raising it would cover the face, while lowering it (below the chin) would uncover it.

Kyrra

That's the sort of veil that Selene always wore.

Tael

It even makes sense for a Western bridal veil if you interpret "raise" and "lower" a little bit more loosely - hell, uncovering the face while wearing a veil is part of the Western marriage ceremony.

Lynara

A hood of the sphinx CAN be raised and lowered. Now, having the ability for veils of all sorts (including the artefact ones) to be raised and lowered, I'd get behind... We do have tailorable veils after all, don't we? I'd like to see it in a different way than the hoods do though...

Silas

Lynara said:

A hood of the sphinx CAN be raised and lowered. Now, having the ability for veils of all sorts (including the artefact ones) to be raised and lowered, I'd get behind... We do have tailorable veils after all, don't we? I'd like to see it in a different way than the hoods do though...

No it can't.

You are wearing:

      hood1               a Hood of the Sphinx

-raise hood

You are not wearing an item of clothing with a hood.

Hence the thread.

Jarrod

You can always ISSUE ME to get a 'hood' added to your Robes or Hood (the arties), so I don't see why it shouldn't be a default feature, especially on the hood.