Card Counting

Glorinifer

Is it against the rules to use JS to card count in the BlackJack gambling thing?

Archaeon

I doubt that the decks operate like that

Saonji

They don't.

Thaisen

Always read the fine print...

Kog

That's exactly what I'd write shortly before coding a single deck blackjack, though, too.

Thaisen

Way more work coding a deck limit though...

Glorinifer

Its code, there has to be an algorithm of sorts whether it be a deck or a certain thing. I'd like to look at that parts source code TBH.

Thaisen

Why would it have to be... an infinite deck would be infinitely easier to implement. I’m sure there are blackjack programs out there in nearly every language if you are looking for examples.

Sobriquet

Also, if you're trying to code a way to exploit a way of making gold here, you'll be shrubbery pretty damn quickly. 

Glorinifer

Eh, come on. What do I look like? An imbecile? I ain't trying to. It's just fun to see how many ways you could cheat if you wanted to.

Caelan

Glorinifer said:

Eh, come on. What do I look like? An imbecile? I ain't trying to. It's just fun to see how many ways you could cheat if you wanted to.

This, combined with the previous post stating your desire to see source code is a pretty solid way to make sure you never get brought on as a coder/volunteer.

Archaeon

Glorinifer said:

What do I look like? An imbecile?

Yes

Saonji

Glorinifer said:

Eh, come on. What do I look like? An imbecile? I ain't trying to. It's just fun to see how many ways you could cheat if you wanted to.

This is the same line of reasoning that a lot of botters in MMO follow. "I have a bot, but I don't use it! But I totally could if I wanted to!"

And then a month later you found out they got banned for botting.

Kog

You guys are kind of ridiculous.

It's not against the rules to cure darkshade before paralysis via triggers, if darkshade is about to kill you. It's not against the rules to write a script to try to count cards. It is against the rules to spam eat bloodroot after you eat ginseng if that could bypass the herb balance limit. It would also be against the rules to try to break the functionality of blackjack somehow.

It would also be against the rules to write a script that plays blackjack while you go do something else.

Triggers should not:

- Use or abuse bugs/loopholes

- Be used while you are away from the keyboard to generate gold/exp/etc.

- Spam somebody else out

Triggers can:

- Solve problems you're too lazy to solve

- React to things you're too slow to react to

- Modify how you respond to prompts

Saonji

Kog said:

It's not against the rules to write a script to try to count cards.

Well yeah, because you can't count cards in Achaea.

They throw you out of casinos if they think you're doing that, no reason they wouldn't in Achaea if such a thing were possible. (and it was able to be monitored)

Kog

Saonji said:

Kog said:

It's not against the rules to write a script to try to count cards.

Well yeah, because you can't count cards in Achaea.

They throw you out of casinos if they think you're doing that, no reason they wouldn't in Achaea if such a thing were possible.

They also arrest you for murder IRL. How many life sentences should Proficy be serving? It's not like the Ace of Spades is going to declare bankruptcy because they managed their odds incorrectly and ran out of gold. This is a game, playing the game well is the point, minigames included.

Thaisen

Kog said:

It would also be against the rules to write a script that plays blackjack while you go do something else.

This would actually probably be okay...because it would most assuredly be a gold sink in the long run.   

Sobriquet

Thaisen said:

Kog said:

It would also be against the rules to write a script that plays blackjack while you go do something else.

This would actually probably be okay...because it would most assuredly be a gold sink in the long run.   

Like the Hashan Comms market, right?

Glorinifer

Me: I kinda want to see it's source code

Everybody: Botter

Me: wtf

Namino

Literally all you have to do is write the code to draw with replacement rather than draw without replacement. It's infinitely more simple to make a card-counting insensitive Blackjack than otherwise, because all you have to do is make every draw from the deck equivalent to the first draw. To make a deck countable, you'd have to store the results of all previous draws to assure they can't be drawn again. To make a deck uncountable, you just... don't do that. I don't know why they'd have gone through additional work to make it easier for people to cheat it. 

Cooper

Glorinifer said:

Me: I kinda want to see it's source code, also is it against the rules to cheat by using JS?

Everybody: Botter

Me: wtf

Fixed that for you.

Glorinifer

Cooper said:

Glorinifer said:

Me: I kinda want to see it's source code, also is it against the rules to cheat by using JS?

Everybody: Botter

Me: wtf

Fixed that for you.

I never said I wanted to cheat lol, was asking what was cheating. Assuming Counting Cards isn't cheating cause I ain't walking away and I still have to type commands it just sends back what I should send if I were to add it which I haven't yet.

Thaisen

Sobriquet said:

Thaisen said:

Kog said:

It would also be against the rules to write a script that plays blackjack while you go do something else.

This would actually probably be okay...because it would most assuredly be a gold sink in the long run.   

Like the Hashan Comms market, right?

Everyone was compensated to their set thresholds in that transaction. But it could likely be considered a gold sink for one of the parties involved... especially when it resumes