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TrayteTrayte Member Posts: 13
I used to play Achaea alot about 10 years ago. I loved it. When i last played, apostates had just been forced to become mhaldorian. So i left the guild id been my entire game, and moved to mhaldor to start new. Well life got crazy and i stopped playing.  Curious now how the gameplay has changed? I was combat focused, and on website it says nexus is superior way to play... when i used to play, zmud was considered the best, although nexus had just received a rework to make it better. Also, does vadimuses
still play? I recall he had a healing system many used. What aspects of healing have changed? Thanks in advance, im curious if i should dive back in. Also wondering if anyone still plays who i knew back then, Trayte was my name there also. Apostate, level high 80s low 90s. Ashtani until the last bit of gameplay. Curious how the classes are balanced now also? Occie still kinda op? Ive seen in some newsletters class reworks and new skills. Frankly the chance to get back in and feel it out sounds fun, when i get off work im logging in and looking around some, probably be knee deep in help files for some time haha. Anyways, any info yall think is useful, please share
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  • TrayteTrayte Member Posts: 13
    Saw a post in matsuhama detailing some of the class changes... whoa. Looking forward to seeing you all later today
  • TrayteTrayte Member Posts: 13
    So shallam is targosis now?
  • ToninTonin Member Posts: 31 ✭✭✭ - Distinguished
    Shallam sank into the sea, and Targossas is headed that direction from the look of things. Poor Targ, I almost feel bad raiding them now. :(
  • TrayteTrayte Member Posts: 13
    There is a server side curing system in game?! Mind blown. Is nexus actually recommended portal?
  • EllodinEllodin HawaiiMember, Seafaring Liason Posts: 944 @@ - Legendary Achaean
    edited September 6
    I play, and I remember you. Pretty sure you're my brother or something in game.

    As far as I know, Mudlet is the gold standard among clients right now. Nexus probably has a friendlier visual appearance out of the box, but most people don't consider it "superior." I don't think Vadimuses plays, if you're talking zMud you're probably talking about his system that ran through mudbot and connecting to localhost (I used just the mapper, I think creating maps for that saw me exploring the most), but he wrote a generally better system called svo when he introduced the Mudlet client (he's the project lead on that). Though it is no longer supported, that system is lightly maintained as part of a public project (see: svof). There are other free options that require some effort to set up like Wundersys, but defensive systems aren't as large an advantage these days.

    Gameplay has changed quite a lot. Disregarding specific class changes and the addition of a few classes, you should look up HELP RACIAL SPECIALISATION and HELP TRAITS when you're in game. I'm guessing at the help file names, but I assume those will work. There are also things like serverside curing (everyone has a curing system that's 100% illusion-proof! You have to set the priorities and some other settings though) and in-game balance/equilibrium queueing (don't quite need to spam/lean as much to attack optimally when you're about at your balance time, assuming you're not hindered). I think the general availability of basic information is greater these days, there's various commands like AFFLICTION SHOW <affliction> to help you if you don't know what something is. I'm not logged in right now, might not be exact.

    Bunch of standardization changes across the board. In general, combat has been tilted heavily in favor of offense, which greatly reduces the number of long fights but introduces a different set of problems. Nothing to worry about for a while, though. If it's all too much, there's a city full of walls (of text) you can post complaints at.
    And as he slept he dreamed a dream, and this was his dream.
  • TrayteTrayte Member Posts: 13
    Hah, yes! I remember you! And i remember both localhost (mapper for me too) and svo(which was a more adaptable curing setup). So Would you recommend rocking mudlet, or going nexus? I do remember your portal having some serious influence on combat back in the day, i dont wanna start off with my hands tied
  • EllodinEllodin HawaiiMember, Seafaring Liason Posts: 944 @@ - Legendary Achaean
    Since you played on clients like zMud, I'd recommend Mudlet. You probably don't need things like health bars and clickable information, and scripts like the mapper are very easy to install and configure.

    Really, the main case I'd make for Nexus is that you don't have to install anything on different computers, assuming you move between them a lot. But if you intend to play on a consistent machine, go for it that way. Don't really know if anyone wrote and maintained a publicly available system for Nexus the way that Vadimuses wrote a system for the old java client.
    And as he slept he dreamed a dream, and this was his dream.
  • TrayteTrayte Member Posts: 13
    Mudlet was something i tried right before leaving the game, and it felt alright. Thanks again Ellodin and Tonin. Hopefully catch yall in game
  • CooperCooper Member Posts: 5,253 @@ - Legendary Achaean
    Hi Trayte, good to see ya back! 

    Everything has changed (for the better!).

    Vadimuses is still around, but mostly to update Mudlet. Mudlet replaced zMUD/cMUD for most people.

    Nexus is completely fine to use, and has a lot of nifty features built in. There is no need to use Mudlet or another client, but a lot of people do prefer Mudlet. For a returning player, using Nexus will be great to get you reacquainted. 

    Achaea has a built in curing system now that is easy to get going, and has as many customizations as you need.

    Apostates still pretty much required to be in Mhaldor. Mhaldor has a TON of new and older players right now, but there aren't any cities I would currently avoid. Everyone has a lot of good things going for them. 

    Classes are a lot different, and there is probably 5 new classes since you used to play, closer to 10-12 with the Bard, sylvan, sentinel, druid, magi, priest, and shaman reworks.

    Best way to start playing is probably to just login and get started. You'll have a lot of catching up to do!

  • TrayteTrayte Member Posts: 13
    I remember you too cooper, you were a bad dude then, i dont remember ever killing you solo haha. I think today ill log in and try and decide if mhaldor/apostate is still my way to go, or if a change of class/city is in the works. Counting down the minutes til im off work
  • TrayteTrayte Member Posts: 13
    I love that achaean politics made its way to this post. Frankly i think its most fun when each city, or at least each side, is formidable in combat. And alot of my in game enemies and i chatted alot. And sparred alot too. And ganked alot. Ashtan at one point maybe 10-12 years ago, got ridiculously big and it was less fun just always crushing on raids. But people just qq’d when we arrived. It sucked
  • MortuMortu Member Posts: 5
    Trayte said:
    I love that achaean politics made its way to this post.
    Some things never change.
    Trayte
  • AtalkezAtalkez Member Posts: 5,020 @@ - Legendary Achaean
    edited September 6
    Tonin said:
    Farrah said:
    People need to lose this mentality because it's contagious and is basically the cause of these downswings in general.
    Citation needed, 'cuz I was pretty sure you were the cause of this particular downswing. :-1:

    Which one of these things did more to damage Targossas:
    Tonin's forum post
    Farrah leaving and taking half the city with her
    In fairness, her leaving only had a direct cause on four others leaving, which is hardly a mass exodus. There have been people who left before for various reasons, and a few that have followed since. It was more a domino effect than anything else, though that did start with Farrah. Farrah had Adrik, Vessil and Mezghar follow for their own reasons. Alasiel left because of Mezghar betrayal, I left because of rage rp at Elon/Farrah/Mezghar/Twilight. Israyhl and whoever else I’m not sure about, doesn’t seem directly related.


    You hug Aurora compassionately.
  • TrayteTrayte Member Posts: 13
    Ok, so elemental lord is kinda like skills you can earn via quest? Is it necessary to compete at high levels in pvp?
  • ToninTonin Member Posts: 31 ✭✭✭ - Distinguished
    Atalkez said:
    Tonin said:
    Farrah said:
    People need to lose this mentality because it's contagious and is basically the cause of these downswings in general.
    Citation needed, 'cuz I was pretty sure you were the cause of this particular downswing. :-1:

    Which one of these things did more to damage Targossas:
    Tonin's forum post
    Farrah leaving and taking half the city with her
    In fairness, her leaving only had a direct cause on four others leaving, which is hardly a mass exodus. There have been people who left before for various reasons, and a few that have followed since. It was more a domino effect than anything else, though that did start with Farrah. Farrah had Adrik, Vessil and Mezghar follow for their own reasons. Alasiel left because of Mezghar betrayal, I left because of rage rp at Elon/Farrah/Mezghar/Twilight. Israyhl and whoever else I’m not sure about, doesn’t seem directly related.
    I understand that the situation is complicated and involved a lot of people and their different motivations. It just seemed a little beyond the pale for Farrah of all people to lecture me about how my mentality is the cause of these kinds of events, especially considering none of the reasons you listed above seem to have anything to do with this supposedly virulent  hysteria I'm fanning the flames of, yet a suspicious number of them have her name on them.
  • JovoloJovolo EnglandMember Posts: 3,218 @@ - Legendary Achaean
    Elemental Lords are their own class that you can unlock through the relevant quests (think Dragon), so you don't need them to compete in PvP. Pretty much every class is now viable. Yes, even Druids.

    Jakiro
  • TrayteTrayte Member Posts: 13
    Ok like dragons. Gotcha. Can lock them easier than dragons i hope
  • JovoloJovolo EnglandMember Posts: 3,218 @@ - Legendary Achaean
    Well...

  • PuxiPuxi Member Posts: 602 ✭✭✭✭ - Eminent
    Farrah said:
    Tonin said:
    Shallam sank into the sea, and Targossas is headed that direction from the look of things. Poor Targ, I almost feel bad raiding them now. :(

    Mhaldor was in the exact same state Targossas is now a few years ago - we called them smalldor. People need to lose this mentality because it's contagious and is basically the cause of these downswings in general.
    Smoldor, get it right.
    Sherazad
  • TrayteTrayte Member Posts: 13
    Battlerage is related to elemental lords?
  • AtalkezAtalkez Member Posts: 5,020 @@ - Legendary Achaean
    Trayte said:
    Ok like dragons. Gotcha. Can lock them easier than dragons i hope
    They are easier to lock because the don’t require multiple active stopping afflictions. They can be difficult to get if you don’t have some people to help you along. Not required in any capacity for pvp, just another option for end game users without needing to purchase it.


    You hug Aurora compassionately.
  • TrayteTrayte Member Posts: 13
    Also can i unlock multiple ones and switch between them? How difficult is the process?
  • AtalkezAtalkez Member Posts: 5,020 @@ - Legendary Achaean
    No. You can only be attributed to one of them at a time, and the process to switch is not easy at all.


    You hug Aurora compassionately.
  • SophiSophi Rally PointMember Posts: 97 ✭✭✭ - Distinguished
    edited September 6
    All classes have a set of battle rage abilities. Since the huge weapons/bashing rework I think.


    @Tonin we don't delete cities just cause their playerbase shrank lol calm down.
  • TrayteTrayte Member Posts: 13
    Ill learn more about them as i go, but that seems like more to take in than necessary to begin with. Appreciate it, yall
  • GrorGror Member Posts: 82 ✭✭✭ - Distinguished
    Trayte said:
    Ill learn more about them as i go, but that seems like more to take in than necessary to begin with. Appreciate it, yall
    Elemental lords are so not worth stressing about. Just consider them a normal class that you can unlock without pulling out your wallet if and when you want one.
  • PyoriPyori Member Posts: 1,799 @ - Epic Achaean
    Torinn said:
    Tonin said:
    Atalkez said:
    Tonin said:
    Farrah said:
    People need to lose this mentality because it's contagious and is basically the cause of these downswings in general.
    Citation needed, 'cuz I was pretty sure you were the cause of this particular downswing. :-1:

    Which one of these things did more to damage Targossas:
    Tonin's forum post
    Farrah leaving and taking half the city with her
    In fairness, her leaving only had a direct cause on four others leaving, which is hardly a mass exodus. There have been people who left before for various reasons, and a few that have followed since. It was more a domino effect than anything else, though that did start with Farrah. Farrah had Adrik, Vessil and Mezghar follow for their own reasons. Alasiel left because of Mezghar betrayal, I left because of rage rp at Elon/Farrah/Mezghar/Twilight. Israyhl and whoever else I’m not sure about, doesn’t seem directly related.
    I understand that the situation is complicated and involved a lot of people and their different motivations. It just seemed a little beyond the pale for Farrah of all people to lecture me about how my mentality is the cause of these kinds of events, especially considering none of the reasons you listed above seem to have anything to do with this supposedly virulent  hysteria I'm fanning the flames of, yet a suspicious number of them have her name on them.
    Honestly it started with people leaving due to Tsol'teth alliance imho
    Which Farrah started :O

    RyxGrorNumiraTorinn
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