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And that'll teach me to assume without checking, sorry about that. It appears only death dummies should trade in because of someone (naming no names) creating about 20 of them that one time. But yes, the general rule is complete, I'm going to look into if there's a reason why death don't trade in for anything if completed, I believe they should.
We'll probably add a small redeem amount to wonders talisman pieces too, as these came in before we started doing that as a default.
Or at least that's what I needed to do for the Death Dummy after Makarios helped me out. Thanks again Mak!
Either way, I bought 10 randoms, came out a good bit ahead, and bowed out on this one.
If the dummies tradein, I regret redeeming individual pieces. I probably had 100 of them.
I will say that the expectation of most people completing sets to trade in is a little bit out there. Those of us who really play the talisman game will still come out all right, but most people aren't going to be able to complete the sets beyond the base ones. Even I don't think I'm going to be able to complete some of the sets I'm looking to complete.
I do like the general idea, though - I've wanted to be able to purchase talismans for quite some time. I both regret and don't regret buying the pieces I did - I did misread the announce post at first, and I also underestimated how many wonders sets were available. The good news is that completing a few of the wonders things would be cool!
The things I am really after though I probably won't be able to complete, or they won't be worth it at the price people can sell them for (Grand Magi and Maya Figurine), which is fairly frustrating. I'm willing to pay about 1500 for Maya, and around 1800 for Grand Magi, but there are going to be desperate people out there who will pay much more than that for the few pieces out there.
Yeah, as always I just wanted to get a few caches in so I had some data to base things off, I knew I was overpaying and was prepared to do that. I'm also not complaining in the sense that I feel ripped off or anything (granted I do a little), I just dont think the numbers are right, and rather than sitting back and accepting its going to be a lean month for IRE, I'd rather ask the question and give them a chance to modify, especially given it seems to be a common response from everyone I've spoken to who has also bought caches.
@Makarios I actually didnt realise death dummies even had a tradein value, I was always under the impression that no death items had tradein value so I've also likely lost a lot of potential credits over the journey in burning those things. My apologies if that has skewed my figures. I had also assumed that the promo for the most part was based on the redeem value because with the exception of the low end items its not looking like people are completing many (if any) of the valuable ones. @Leviticus may have missed out on an extra 200 odd credits from straight up redeeming over trading in, but it still wouldnt have made that into a 'good option' unless he spent the next few weeks trying to trade pieces to increase his value.
I'll also point out that I dont think any of the wonders items have tradein value, so completing them is not going to increase value, as with the items in historical (eg the million pet pieces will only have redeem value). Overall if you expect to get tradein value then your also outlaying a significant amount of time and effort into trading in order to get your 40% return in this case.
Funnily enough Historical is likely the best actual return in this promo (comparable to the random), because despite not having tradein value, you have a minimum of 10 credits redeem value per piece, so at least you have a fixed return. You then have the potential to profit off the few items people may buy (whisperstone, lily) if you get enough pieces.
The main doubt I have with the numbers is on the calculation or estimated spread of pieces your likely to get from your conclave (or any of the more varied sets). I've opened enough caches to know that for every 50+ credit piece, your going to go thru at least 10 tophat or hourglass pieces.. If I get a chance today I'll grep out my entire history of conclave cache openings and give you some more accurate stats. The numbers I have here are based off 60, which isnt a big data set, but I've probably opened many many hundreds, if not thousands.
Thats a value sure, but its not value.
Grand magi is the level 2 magi robes, they give you 1/3 willpower cost as well as 1/3 mana cost.
The Maya figurine preserves unused crit damage beyond your current kill and hits your next target with it, so if you kill something with a WSC it will then hit your next target with the unused portion. It has a timeout and such, I dont have one for the specifics, I think it only works on WSC and Planars as well, but someone else can confirm.
I do like that the chance to get some one offs are out there though.
Plenty of talismans work for PvP, including several that ONLY have uses for PvP. There are probably more PvP talismans than PvE ones.
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Ugh. Huge regrets on every dollar spent this month.