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Tsol'aa Ears

Hello,

I recently started work on a description and have been compiling a number of descriptions to make sure I'm as accurate to Tsol'aa as possible. One of the things that has stumped me are their ears. When I first started the game referred to Tsol'aa as elves, so I came in under the impression that they bore some of the same features (ears). Game art I have seen of Tsol'aa led me to believe that the ears were more like those of Humans, but I've seen some evidence to the contrary.

What I'm trying to get at is this: do Tsol'aa have traditional "elf" ears, or are they human-like ears?

Thanks.
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  • ShirszaeShirszae Santo DomingoMember Posts: 3,272 @@ - Legendary Achaean
    edited January 2015
    I think they are not meant to have pointy ears according to game lore, but a lot of people nonetheless describe their character as pointy-eared, because of the same reason as you mentioned.

    Personally, I enjoy the idea of them being pointy-eared, in any case.

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  • EllodinEllodin HawaiiMember, Seafaring Liason Posts: 951 @@ - Legendary Achaean
    Velisia said:
    When I first started the game referred to Tsol'aa as elves
    out of curiosity, where does this occur?  anyway, not pointy-eared, though they are sort-of like LOTR/high fantasy elves (as opposed to the gnomish, OG elves) in other ways.
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  • VelisiaVelisia Member Posts: 5
    When you first make a character, it seems to show them as such.


    Ast
  • SarapisSarapis Member, Administrator Posts: 3,398 Achaean staff
    Velisia said:
    Hello,

    I recently started work on a description and have been compiling a number of descriptions to make sure I'm as accurate to Tsol'aa as possible. One of the things that has stumped me are their ears. When I first started the game referred to Tsol'aa as elves, so I came in under the impression that they bore some of the same features (ears). Game art I have seen of Tsol'aa led me to believe that the ears were more like those of Humans, but I've seen some evidence to the contrary.

    What I'm trying to get at is this: do Tsol'aa have traditional "elf" ears, or are they human-like ears?

    Thanks.
    They do not have pointy ears.
    MathonwyAnnui
  • VelisiaVelisia Member Posts: 5
    So they do not. Thank you all for clarification.
  • TreyTrey Member Posts: 4,798 @@ - Legendary Achaean
    Considering how many people rock them already they might as well, though. 

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  • SarapisSarapis Member, Administrator Posts: 3,398 Achaean staff
    Nobody is rocking them any more than people are rocking dwarves with pointed ears or trolls with three arms. They've just mis-described their characters.
    Annui
  • AodfionnAodfionn Seattle, WAMember Posts: 1,218 @@ - Legendary Achaean
    Sarapis said:
    Nobody is rocking them any more than people are rocking dwarves with pointed ears or trolls with three arms. They've just mis-described their characters.

    Why'd you label them as 'elf-equivalent,' then?
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  • SarapisSarapis Member, Administrator Posts: 3,398 Achaean staff
    Because we're trying to communicate to people who have never played the game something familiar about races that have 'weird' and meaningless names (to them). Elf is the closest descriptive word we came up with. Similarly, Atavian says 'winged human' though they aren't and have never been human. Should probably change that to "Elf-ish" or something.


    Annui
  • ShirszaeShirszae Santo DomingoMember Posts: 3,272 @@ - Legendary Achaean
    Er, Atavians were humans given wings by Vastar.

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  • SarapisSarapis Member, Administrator Posts: 3,398 Achaean staff
    edited January 2015
    Sure, the original members of the race were once humans, turned into a new race. Those particularly individuals were humans, but no player character Atavians have ever been human - they've only been Atavian. (well, ignoring reincarnation of course). 

    If you don't like the Atavian example, just pick one of the others. Grook are not frogs, for instance, despite being labeled as "Frog men". 
  • VesiosVesios Member Posts: 243 ✭✭✭✭ - Eminent
    edited January 2015
    In that case, what would be their defining characteristic, appearance-wise? Atavians have their wings, rajamala are cat people, etc. The mhun are labelled as evolutionary offshoots of humans, which explains their similar appearance, but the tsol'aa have a decidedly different racial history. 

    tl;dr Since they don't have pointy ears like everyone thought, how would you ICly differentiate tsol'aa from humans? What would stand out about them that would make someone go "I'm looking at a tsol'aa, not a human"?
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  • VelisiaVelisia Member Posts: 5
    Vesios said:
    In that case, what would be their defining characteristic, appearance-wise? Atavians have their wings, rajamala are cat people, etc. The mhun are labelled as evolutionary offshoots of humans, which explains their similar appearance, but the tsol'aa have a decidedly different racial history. 

    tl;dr Since they don't have pointy ears like everyone thought, how would you ICly differentiate tsol'aa from humans? What would stand out about them that would make someone go "I'm looking at a tsol'aa, not a human"?
    From what I've seen of Tsol'aa NPCs the Tsol'aa tend towards slender and elegant appearances. In terms of variation purple eyes are not unheard of and I've seen a couple of Tsol'aa with naturally silver hair.
  • SarapisSarapis Member, Administrator Posts: 3,398 Achaean staff
    Appearance-wise they don't necessarily differ much from humans, though as Velisia said they tend towards being more slender. I mean, look at both the character art images. Very human-esque. 
  • JeslynJeslyn United StatesMember Posts: 482 @ - Epic Achaean
    edited January 2015
    I would consider them to be lithe (not very muscular), as tall as humans, with pale and elegant features, smooth skin, natural colored eyes, and having long wavy or straight hair that is usually black or brown. So technically, it could be said they look like elves, but without the ears. (This is coming from a Tsol'aan player. I didn't describe the ears at all)
  • KayeilKayeil Washington StateMember Posts: 2,824 @@ - Legendary Achaean
    Who knew so many Tso'laa were into body modification just to give themselves pointy ears?  :p
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  • DunatisDunatis Member Posts: 21 ✭✭ - Stalwart
    So...Satyr aren't really horny, hairy men with hooves?
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  • KaraiKarai Member Posts: 325 ✭✭✭✭✭ - Grand Achaean
    That's how I'll explain Karai. I was young when i made her, but it would be a bit odd to change anything that's been so defining. Ears, eyes, many other features. As @Kayeil suggested (jokingly?), it could just be cultural body mods. I'm okay with that.
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  • ValariaValaria Member Posts: 400 ✭✭✭ - Distinguished
    @Sarapis maybe you should overhaul the describe system so those tsol'aa would know that they don't have a pointy-ears. or something. just a thought

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  • VesiosVesios Member Posts: 243 ✭✭✭✭ - Eminent
    "Elf" becomes "Elves without the ears", maybe?
  • SarapisSarapis Member, Administrator Posts: 3,398 Achaean staff
    @Valaria Well, they also don't have horns or fangs. No need to point out what they don't have though. There's a reason we don't require admin approval for descriptions - we don't care that much how you want to describe yourself. Having said that, the game itself would never recognize Tsol'aa as having pointy ears, as they simply don't. If people want to describe themselves as having them though and it makes them happy, no harm done.
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  • HerenicusHerenicus The Western FrontMember Posts: 1,734 @@ - Legendary Achaean
    edited January 2015
    The ears could point to a fairy in the woodpiles of our tight-knit Aalen family :/
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  • SarapisSarapis Member, Administrator Posts: 3,398 Achaean staff
    I....have no idea what that means, @Herenicus‌.
  • AchimrstAchimrst NatureMember Posts: 3,608 @@ - Legendary Achaean
    edited January 2015
    Sarapis said:
    I....have no idea what that means, @Herenicus‌.
    Tsol'aa be bangin the fairies in the forest.

    Edit: That is what I believe it means @Sarapis
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  • SantarSantar Member Posts: 2,382 @@ - Legendary Achaean
    Okay, so, I just went through the entire Tsol'aa village to comb through all their descriptions(because that's apparently something I have time to do). I was sure I'd find some evidence of pointy ears on at least one of them, but there was not.

    However, here's some other notable things:

    - I filed a bug report that was promptly fixed.
    Your bug report (detail: The denizen known as selaana6009 has a poor 
    description.  "For someone with such a sweet and gentle face and soppy brown 
    eyes, it is hard to believe that Selaana kills things for a living. She is 
    unique in that she is the only member of the village to frequently leave the 
    forest." The first sentence is debataby inappropriate for a description, and the 
    second line is definitely inappropriate for a description. Suggestion: Remove 
    the second sentence of her description and replace it with a recurring 'say' of, 
    "Ahhh, I'm the only Tsol'aa in this village to frequently leave the forest.") - 
    has been fixed.

    Then I came upon...


    A gorgeous blonde, Keleyn looks both intelligent and tough. Her hair is long and 
    elegantly styled, done so that it is out of the way and will not hinder her in 
    combat. She wears a tight sleeveless vest, giving a good view of her large, firm 
    breasts. It also gives a good view of the muscles on her arms, which offer a 
    warning against any attempt to get more familiar than you should with her 
    cleavage.
    Keleyn, Tsol'aa guard is quite powerful.
    She has 100% health remaining.
    She weighs about 120 pounds.
    She is loyal to Aalen Tsol'aa.
    You see nothing in it.

    How -you- doing girl?

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    AstAnnui
  • AchimrstAchimrst NatureMember Posts: 3,608 @@ - Legendary Achaean
    @Santar‌ How can you tell her breasts are firm just by looking at them? Should typo that too. They can replace it with a 'touch keleyn' reaction.
    Immediately followed by a huge damage increase?
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  • RiashainRiashain Member Posts: 191 ✭✭✭✭ - Eminent
    Insta kill
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  • AchimrstAchimrst NatureMember Posts: 3,608 @@ - Legendary Achaean
    Riashain said:
    Insta kill
    The firm bosom reacting in anger, the life of Riashain has been ended.
    Annui
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