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UlrikeUlrike MarylandMember Posts: 175 ✭✭✭✭ - Eminent

Hi there, Achaeans. Been a while.


A bolt from the blue brought me back: Arcrisius' player messaged me to let me know that there are changes for the Naga, and the Dracrotalus lineage is becoming some Game of Thrones-flavored noble house, and didn't I own a sprawling manse in the Mhaldor subs that I could log on real quick and unlock?

After a few conversations with Mycen, Herenicus (I know, I know) and sundry others, I decided to come back for a while and help see this transition through, as a fitting coda to the legacies I cherish in the game. To do that, though, I need to get my study on, especially if I want to be helping n00bs again (which I very much do).

It's been five years since I set the game aside. I used to know it very well; not so much, now. Once-familiar things are bewildering.
Here's kind of what I do know:
  • Shaitan/Apollyon became Sartan again and decided the Sarapin sacrifices were, like, so last era
  • Shallam got nuked and now there's some risen-from-the-ashes analog called Sargasso or whatever
  • And the eternal dagron that nuked Shallam also snacked on a bunch of gods, and Lorielan flipped everybody off in hilarious fashion
  • Quisalis Mark et al. got expanded in some nifty way?
  • There's now an Alchemist class with a parallel set of curatives or something?
  • There's no more Action in Hypnosis? :( :( :(
  • Curing isn't even hard anymore?
  • There's some cool-sounding thing involving artifact assembly?
  • Somebody who thinks "orientate" is a cromulent word was allowed to recode org logs
  • The default client is all snazzy now and there are lots of convenience changes
  • I seriously don't even know what's going on with the "artifact packs" on the credits page

I'd love to get some opinions from players, private or public, because help files and news posts only get you the official story, and only so much of that. I'm making a new thread because I'd rather engage with players directly than wade through 9999999 forum posts, and also because I'm lazy (big surprise there).
Here's what I'd like to know, in broad strokes:
  • What's the shape of politics on the continent?
  • What client do people primarily use now, and what system(s)?
  • How has combat changed? Which classes are OP right now and which are crap?
  • Are ships actually used much anymore?
  • How's game population compared to several years ago?
  • Which gods are active lately?
  • Is there some kind of FAQ for relapsing addicts to peruse that I'm totally missing? 

PM me or post here, or tell/message me in game, or seek me out elsewhere, as is your wont. Any help is appreciated.

Attitude-wise, I'm not quite the same as I used to be. A little mellower, a little less griefery, no less prone to giggling at imbecilic image macros or a bit of the ol' snark. If I stole your journal or killed your pony lo these many years ago, mea culpa; nothing personal. :)

Cheers,

Ulrike

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  • SantarSantar Member Posts: 2,382 @@ - Legendary Achaean

    Hi Ulrike.


    Welcome back.

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    Ulrike
  • BluefBluef DelosMember Posts: 2,176 @@ - Legendary Achaean
    I remember you! Welcome back! :)

    Ulrike
  • TreyTrey Member Posts: 4,720 @@ - Legendary Achaean

    @Ulrike, fuck yeah! Comin' again to steal the motherfuckin' gold yeah!

    UlrikeHanleySaibel
  • SiduriSiduri Member Posts: 1,552 @@ - Legendary Achaean

    @Ulrike : They killed thievery. You can no longer hypnotize someone into handing you stuff. Now you pickpocket at random, or target items with near zero chance of success. Welcome to a new age.

    And welcome back, I missed you :)


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    Ulrike
  • JhaeliJhaeli Member Posts: 541 @ - Epic Achaean
    Ulrike said:
    1. What's the shape of politics on the continent?
    2. What client do people primarily use now, and what system(s)?
    3. How has combat changed? Which classes are OP right now and which are crap?
    4. Are ships actually used much anymore?
    5. How's game population compared to several years ago?
    6. Which gods are active lately?
    7. Is there some kind of FAQ for relapsing addicts to peruse that I'm totally missing? 

    Welcome back. :smiley: It hasn't been THAT long since I came back myself from an albeit shorter dormancy, but I'll see what I can share.

    1. There's no more Team Red vs. Team Blue. Each city-state is on its own to varying degrees, with Mhaldor and Ashtan usually playing the villains both with each other and with each city-state.

    2. Mudlet is the client of choice, afaik, and many people use SVO which is the new system from @Vadimuses. There is also Omni and Wundersys? floating around, I believe.

    3. This isn't my area of expertise, but classes have been pulled to a middle ground across the board in PvE in terms of damage against denizens, so there are no more 'terrible' classes. As I understand it, it's not about utility and defense, and Runewarden is touted as the best bashing class. @Sena will be able to answer that one better!

    4. Still used! How much so, I'm honestly not sure. They are looking to change things up though, according to a certain Dais thread.

    5. Lower these days, honestly.

    6. In Mhaldor, Sartan. In Ashtan, Vastar. In Hashan, Twilight and Ourania. In Eleusis, Gaia. In Targossas, Aurora and (sometimes) Deucalion‌. In Cyrene, Scarlatti. I might be missing a couple.

    7. Not as far as I know. :/

    "Gilgamesh, where are you hurrying to? You will never find that [everlasting] life for which you are looking. When the gods created man they allotted to him death, but life they retained in their own keeping. As for you, Gilgamesh, fill your belly with good things; day and night, night and day, dance and be merry, feast and rejoice. Let your clothes be fresh, bathe yourself in water, cherish the little child that holds your hand, and make your wife happy in your embrace; for this too is the lot of man." 

    Ulrike
  • MelodieMelodie Port Saint Lucie, FloridaMember Posts: 4,952 @@ - Legendary Achaean
    edited August 2014
    Ulrike said:
    • What's the shape of politics on the continent?
    • What client do people primarily use now, and what system(s)?
    • How has combat changed? Which classes are OP right now and which are crap?
    • Are ships actually used much anymore?
    • How's game population compared to several years ago?
    • Which gods are active lately?
    • Is there some kind of FAQ for relapsing addicts to peruse that I'm totally missing? 

    Welcome back @Ulrike! You were a terror of my novicehood and much-beloved in Mhaldor, so always very great to see old faces making a comeback.

    Breaking down your questions:

    -Politics have radically changed over the last five years. All of the old alliances (team red and team blue) have more or less gone down the crapper. Most cities stand on their own two feet, though of course some are more wobbly than others. Mhaldor has had its up and downs but is currently on a population boom and generally handling itself very well since Sartan's return. Shallam died, lost a lot of deadweight in the year of being citiless refugees, and the hardened citizens have become the city of Targossas. It is a militant Good version, much stricter rulers, and even cooler Gods found in Aurora and Deucalion. Eleusis is still in the middle of their own changes, and has become a contender on the world stage with their own philosophies, as well as in combat. Gaia has returned to head the village as well. Hashan has been struggling a bit but it slowly becoming what many hope to be the city of Darkness, with Twilight's return and now patronage of the city. Cyrene had a very long boom in activity, then a slow decline, and now another boom with their recent Houses all redone, with Scarlatti (not officially, but more or less) leading the city forward. Ashtan unfortunately had Babel disappear (he would have been new when you left I think), but Vastar has taken up the reins, and Ashtan stands as Achaea's most well-known hard-hitters in combat. All the cities are more or less opposed to one another, some more than others.

    -Most people these days will either use the Mudlet client and SVO (Vadimuses' newest system) or Wundersys (Nemutaur's system that is based off of server-side curing - oh yes, Achaea got in-game curing!), or work off html5 (the main website client) and server-side curing. Mudlet/SVO are still the reigning champions at the moment for older players, but a lot of newer players and tinkering coders have been working on creating systems around server-side since it offers some very nice amenities. Then there are those of us who are lazy (hi there) and just do what's easiest.

    -Combat has changed in that it has become more accessible, but to be a top-tier still requires a great amount of skill and deep knowledge of the classes. For mid and lower tier, though, you'll see more people involved than ever before. Conflict on Achaea is a daily activity, and few hours go by without someone dying to some other person (whether via Marks, open PK areas, city raids, shrine conflict, whatever). A lot of changes have gone into place into redoing how many of the classes work, as well as the creation of Blademasters (I think you were there for that) and Alchemists, which as you said, introduces a second and similar curing to forestal stuff. Alchemists aren't super popular right now despite the changes, but as always there's lots of testing and tinkering to see how everything works. Monks are still considered one of the top classes to use in combat, Occultists had a huge re-do that makes them fairly strong, the two grove-users are more popular and usable then ever. I wouldn't say any one single class is super op (monk would be the closest), nor any single class that is just utter crap, but there is still definitely some variation and personal like depending on what you enjoy (1v1 vs. group combat vs. utility).

    -Ships are still used, though a lot less than in the past. Ship events don't really happen, and other than meeting pirates at sea, fishing, (some) deep sea diving, and trading, there's really not a lot to do. Worry not: There's a huge thread in the Golden Dias section where ideas for improvements are being taken and will hopefully be worked on within the upcoming real year or so, once many of the very big changes going on right now happen. We're all keeping our fingers crossed for the re-invigoration of ships!

    -Population from several years ago would be generally lower, though in the last 2? years there has been a general boost to the population in the form of new players, and old players (like you and I!) returning. It's an ongoing theme to make the newbie life easier and more interesting to bring more lifeblood to Achaea, and the newbie changes have been some of the biggest since I've begun playing, honestly. Lots of great things for them nowadays.

    -Active Gods depends. ICly (meaning Gods who interact within the game world) includes Aurora, Deucalion, Gaia, Scarlatti, Twilight, Ourania, Valnurana, Vastar, Sartan, Pandora, and maybe Thoth? Not sure on the last. Some of the Gods who are still around and help OOCly include Tecton, Sarapis (he came back!), and then coders like Makarios, and many others who work behind the scenes but aren't known by name so much. There's always more coming back bit by bit, and a lot of us have hope to see some returning faces over the next several months.

    -I think @Sena had a general list of "things that have happened" somewhere, but really unsure if it has been updated. Otherwise not really! You posting this thread was likely to be the best way to find things out OOCly. Of course bugging your people IC will get you deeper info on Mhaldor and etc.

    Again, welcome back, we really look forward to having you around more!

    P.S. - Almost forgot. Everyone is currently going through the "House Renaissance" to redo the Houses in many different ways. Targossas of course already had new Houses, but the rest of the cities needed some work. Cyrene just had theirs done with three entirely new Houses, which is why they're currently in such a boom (besides just being the lovely Cyrene). Mhaldor is up next and should be undergoing their own very, very soon. After that we have Eleusis, then Hashan, then Ashtan. How the Houses will be changed depends entirely upon the city and their desires - we've been told there's not to be any "cookie cutter" way for things to get done, or Houses in general. Some of the other big things upcoming include splitting tradeskills off from classes (and putting in new skills in their place) to make those tradeskills available to everyone, as well as (way down the road) muti-classes, a weaponry rework, and many other things.

    "You have had an extraordinary adventure, my dear. Extraordinary! One that few people could ever imagine. Treasure it. Keep it safe and secure, tucked away in some special place in your heart. 

    But... don't spend the rest of your days chasing a ghost."
    JhaeliChiamUlrike
  • MorthifMorthif Member Posts: 1,619 @@ - Legendary Achaean

    wow 5 years.. I remember you as Nagarini so well.. The good old days.


    Welcome back!

    Ulrike
  • FlorentinoFlorentino Member Posts: 516

    There is still Action in hypnosis, theft is just less free-form and creative these days. Still very viable, however - the Naga recently held a theft contest and raked in over a million gold collectively in about a year or two, I think.

    Politics is interesting - plenty of RP/espionage work to be done in and between most cities right now, I think.

    I can't speak to all the classes but serpent has undergone some big changes - illusions no longer work effectively because of server-side curing (the new freely available curing system delivered straight through Achaea itself), so flays can now deliver venoms as they strip shield/rebounding, gecko (slickness) strips sileris, bites were sped up, and hypochondria was buffed. Most serpent skills are also actually dependent on a stat now, Dexterity - it determines how fast you phase, backstab, flay, garrote, and other stuff. I have never been much for 1v1 but I like the changes a fair bit for small-group combat and ganks.

    Game population actually isn't that bad. Also Mhaldor's population is pretty high these days and that's what I care about the most. And Sartan's cool, who needs other gods, man?

    Ulrike
  • CooperCooper IowaMember Posts: 4,869 @@ - Legendary Achaean

    Hi, Ulrike.


    I can't believe it's been 5 years since you played. It seems like just yesterday we were chatting in Mhaldor about how to oppress our noobs.


    For you the biggest change will be Mhaldor being less 'hardcore', and that favoritism is both more and less prevalent than before, and it's more OOC than it used to be (even in the Cowbell days). This is both a good and bad thing, but overall it seems to be working OK. Tons of new names moving up.


    Just act just like you used to with a touch less of the 'unapproachable' aspect of your character.


    Welcome back!!


    SarapisHerenicusUlrikeSaibel
  • HerenicusHerenicus The Western FrontMember Posts: 1,734 @@ - Legendary Achaean
    Ulrike said:

    After a few conversations with Mycen, Herenicus (I know, I know) and sundry others


    Rise, take up thy bow, and snipe.

    UlrikeMycen
  • HerenicusHerenicus The Western FrontMember Posts: 1,734 @@ - Legendary Achaean


    AlcinaeUlrikeEphram
  • JurixeJurixe Where you least expect itMember Posts: 1,649 @@ - Legendary Achaean
    edited August 2014

    Always pleased to see old names coming back, Ulrike. @Sabiru would be ecstatic if HE WERE PLAYING.

    If you like my stories, you can find them here:
    Stories by Jurixe and Stories by Jurixe 2 

    JhaeliMelodieUlrike
  • RispokRispok Member Posts: 708 ✭✭✭✭✭ - Grand Achaean

    Be sure to look at stuff like traits and race specializations

    Ulrike
  • SenaSena Member Posts: 3,954 @@ - Legendary Achaean
    Ulrike said:
    1. Quisalis Mark et al. got expanded in some nifty way?
    2. There's some cool-sounding thing involving artifact assembly?
    3. How has combat changed? Which classes are OP right now and which are crap?
    1. Basically, you don't choose who you hire any more, and marks don't choose what contracts they take. Contracts are assigned randomly (weighted based on the mark's reputation and such) to an active mark. Marks can gain/lose prestige by completing/failing contracts, and the highest ranked adventurer in each mark gets a special honours line and deathsight.

    2. I think you're referring to talismans. Basically, certain denizens drop talisman pieces, and you combine certain pieces to form talismans that do various things (a permanent bonus, some powerful item, maybe with a limited number of uses, a special pet, they can be lots of things). For example, the first talisman set released were the dragon talismans. Several denizens in high-level bashing areas drop pieces, and there's a talisman for each dragon colour that lets you transform into that colour. Once you have the full set, you become an elder dragon, able to transform into any colour and dragonform faster, plus special enter/exit messages.

    3. One important thing that hasn't been mentioned is that ranged combat was nerfed a lot. Most area-range abilities were reduced to either a 3 room radius or line-of-sight, and bows get a lot less accurate the farther away the target is, forcing people to fight closer together and move around more.
    MelodieJhaeliUlrike
  • SeldinSeldin Member Posts: 170 ✭✭✭ - Distinguished
    edited August 2014

    GIVE MY STUFF BACK @Ulrike, YOU THIEF!

    i.e. Welcome back! :grin: 

    SarapisUlrike
  • VadimusesVadimuses Member Posts: 1,104 @ - Epic Achaean
    Hi Ulrike!

    SarapisUlrikeTalysinSaibel
  • ArditiArditi Member Posts: 841

    Welcome back.

    You were before my time and all I got were stories that made me convinced that if you had shown back up while I was still Nagaraja, I was screwed and would abdicate immediately.

    SiduriUlrike
  • JhaeliJhaeli Member Posts: 541 @ - Epic Achaean
    @Ulrike I think it's in the bottom right corner where you can click to change the HTML Client settings, and yes, you can change it so they don't pop up. I also personally put the prompt back in too, the few times I've used it.

    "Gilgamesh, where are you hurrying to? You will never find that [everlasting] life for which you are looking. When the gods created man they allotted to him death, but life they retained in their own keeping. As for you, Gilgamesh, fill your belly with good things; day and night, night and day, dance and be merry, feast and rejoice. Let your clothes be fresh, bathe yourself in water, cherish the little child that holds your hand, and make your wife happy in your embrace; for this too is the lot of man." 

    Ulrike
  • RuthRuth SingaporeMember Posts: 2,700 @@ - Legendary Achaean
    edited August 2014

    It's hard to say whether cross-org alliances will happen again, considering the current climate from city to city. The tendency and possibility for cities on 'Team Blue' side to do it is higher/easier, however, should they ever consider cross-org assistance, even if for a little bit. It's a bit hard between Ashtan and Mhaldor to do that now though; each side believes they are better than the other, which means our pride/ego would be a great hindrance to any team-up.

    You can see this happening if you asked around about the Reckoning. Ashtan, Mhaldor, Cyrene, Eleusis and Hashan originally picked Maklak to side. Targossas went with Yudhisthira. Some RP things happened and Eleusis switched, followed a while after by Cyrene after being PKed by Ashtan and told to piss off. So it became Ashtan/Mhaldor/Hashan vs Eleusis/Cyrene/Targossas.

    Further, to prevent complaints about 'Team Red' forming up again after a unofficial joint strike on Targossas after a hoarding issue, Ashtan claimed they would accept no other help in the event from then on. So while both of our cities were on the same side, this is about as close as an alliance we likely will get in the future, where each city is working with their own people for their own goals, but being left alone for most part on the battlefield by Ashtan.

    I imagine they tried to make it the same for the other side, in order to even things out. The results didn't matter in the event though, if you were only looking at the interactions between city vs city.

    "Mummy, I'm hungry, but there's no one to eat! :C"

     

    UlrikeJhaeli
  • SynbiosSynbios Member Posts: 4,561 @@ - Legendary Achaean

    @Ulrike. Haven't seen your name in, like, forever.


    Also, you missed one of the new things in Achaea - the blademaster class. They're highly mobile iaijutsu(draw-from-the-scabbard-slash-and-resheathe-in-one-motion) bundles of awesome that you see in anime and samurai films.


    They're like an unholy combination of monk, knight and serpent, and you can do a quest to get your own named blade(the name is random though, so you can get something like Eternal Mercy...or you might end up with Holy Cats).


    Anyway, welcome back!

    PraxidesUlrike
  • MycenMycen Member Posts: 42 ✭✭✭ - Distinguished

    I just want to say welcome back.. I joined the Naga based on a legacy that I think was mostly of your making in the Naga.  I have said since I joined I'd love to get the chance to RP with Ulrike some day,and now I have that chance.  It's like the most awesome thing for Mycen 's RP I think I've had in a long time.  I hope you stick around. 
    UlrikeJhaeliSherazadSaibel
  • TalysinTalysin Member Posts: 575 ✭✭✭✭ - Eminent

    So great to see you back! Looks like a lot of old players are returning.

    Ulrike
  • SenaSena Member Posts: 3,954 @@ - Legendary Achaean
    Ulrike said:

    I take it Zmud/Cmud fell by the wayside?
    Pretty much, there are only a handful of people still using them.
    Ulrike said:

    Exactly how useful are illusions now? Are they at least still a thing I can use for RP?
    Illusions are still useful, you just have to work harder to find out what works against different people. A lot of illusions are nullified by server-side curing, but that still leaves other types of illusions you can use, and not everyone uses server-side curing. Anti-illusion in client-side systems has gotten better too, which also defeats a lot of illusions.

    Using illusions for RP hasn't changed, you can still do that just fine.

    Ulrike
  • AntidasAntidas Member Posts: 1,485 @@ - Legendary Achaean

    Welcome back @Ulrike.


    Doubt you'd remember me, I was just an ickle Nagaling when you went dormant, but I remember you! You were part of what convinced me to become a thief haha


    Ulrike
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