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Seafaring Trades Changes?

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  • KinilanKinilan Member, Seafaring Liason Posts: 1,255 @@ - Legendary Achaean
    edited June 2014
    Jules said:

    Ainia's probably high profile enough that paying off PoM feels awkward.  I'd feel awkward because I accepted a maritime aide position, which I'd never have done if it weren't a house req, but glad I did.  All in all, though, more people should try the whole "pay off the dirty pirates" thing.    

    We only recently started to keep a record of the expired contracts, most of those are "low profile" characters. But we've had a few from CTN and Mariners guild members, those made me chuckle. we're not in the business of dragging people's names though the mud though. Your secret is safe with us.


    Jules said:

    Not sure if Cyrene has rules against it, either.  Hopefully we don't.  

    Paying off the pirates? I'd hope not. I mean I've never heard anything like that but that would be one shit law. "You're not allowed to pay off the pirates, you shut your Gods damned mouth and let your ship sink if they catch you and you'd damn well better go down with your ship or it's a CDF for you!" heh

    JulesAinia
  • JulesJules Member Posts: 2,169 @ - Epic Achaean

    It might fall under trading/doing business with city enemies, and it might depend on who you talk to in city leadership.  I'm going to see if I can get an authoritative answer, but yes, it would be shitty.  

  • JulesJules Member Posts: 2,169 @ - Epic Achaean

    Pretty emphatically "yes, it's okay" from several folks in Ministers, so that's encouraging.  Basically, it shouldn't get you in any legal hot water.  

    Kinilan
  • GreysGreys Member, Seafaring Liason Posts: 713 ✭✭✭✭✭ - Grand Achaean

    Eh, most people I know found the pirates plus the port fees just made seafaring not worth it compared to conventional hunting.  Can remember back in Shallam would have fishing trips most every month but now I don't know anyone who fishes anymore.

  • JulesJules Member Posts: 2,169 @ - Epic Achaean
    A bit of fishing is alright, but damn is it boring after awhile.  Definitely not why I got a ship.  But yeah, taking this back to the OP, seafaring trade deals don't seem to be panning out for pirates or anyone else lately, not even in terms of a nice little offset for the sheer expense of owning and running a ship, and I imagine the pirates spend a lot of their fees on ammo, which gets real expensive, real fast, if you were actually using it.

     

  • MelodieMelodie Port Saint Lucie, FloridaMember Posts: 5,010 @@ - Legendary Achaean
    I don't really find "you could just always pay us" to be a good reason to go out and sail, personally. It kind of sits with me wrong.

    That said though, I always wished people would take the time to learn how to sail properly, which is what I encourage people to do. I know the Nerai could/would never pay off a pirate, but I don't expect it extends outside of us. I don't think any of the cities block paying them off, though.

    I imagine a lot of the issues with pirates would fade away with more reasons to sail and thus more people willing to learn how to sail/teach how to sail though. Right now there's just not a lot of reason to go out. I very very occasionally fish (usually to take someone out to chat with more than make money), and do some deals when there's a good one, but even as a Nereian, I don't sail very much anymore, which is a real shame.

    Ohwell. Seafaring changes are on the map, they're just not incoming anytime soon.

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  • TarausTaraus The Gypsy WindMember, Seafaring Liason Posts: 889 @@ - Legendary Achaean

    I have a crown trade sitting that I haven't completed because I'm afraid of pirates :(


    KinilanYaeAinia
  • LilianLilian Member Posts: 370 ✭✭✭ - Distinguished
    Jules said:

    It might fall under trading/doing business with city enemies, and it might depend on who you talk to in city leadership.  I'm going to see if I can get an authoritative answer, but yes, it would be shitty.  

    No there is no rule about that as far as Cyrene is concered. That would truly be a crappy law.

  • WillWill Member Posts: 48 ✭✭✭ - Distinguished
    edited June 2014

    would be cool if there were trades that put gold or commodities into the city. I've done one or two of these trades but by the end of it all, its not worth it for me. I'd definately do more if it helped the city.


    And maybe it would encourage cities to group and brave the pirates as the reward is worth the risk. When i put calls out on the navy clan for these things, its generally met with silence. I wanna shoot some darts into hirst's ship ffs.

    MelodieDalranShirszae
  • KinilanKinilan Member, Seafaring Liason Posts: 1,255 @@ - Legendary Achaean
    Will said:

     I wanna shoot some darts into hirst's ship ffs.

    Oh, I see how it is. Excuse me while I go find a dark room and a pack of razor blades.

    DalranShirszaeAinia
  • KresslackKresslack Florida, United StatesMember Posts: 6,015 @@ - Legendary Achaean
    Will said:

    would be cool if there were trades that put gold or commodities into the city. I've done one or two of these trades but by the end of it all, its not worth it for me. I'd definately do more if it helped the city.


    And maybe it would encourage cities to group and brave the pirates as the reward is worth the risk. When i put calls out on the navy clan for these things, its generally met with silence. I wanna shoot some darts into hirst's ship ffs.

    There's nothing really stopping you from doing the gold trades then, and simply donating to the city. 



  • KhairtKhairt Member Posts: 279 ✭✭✭✭ - Eminent

    I dunno man. I pretty much don't sail because POM exists. To say that piracy gives depth and meaning to the seas is like saying carjackings make having a car worthwhile and interesting. If I'm paying for a ship, I am doing so for transportation and convenience, not for the awesome opportunity of meeting pirates. I can intellectually grasp that paying for protection/meeting death in the depths/being a badass pirate or pirate hunter can be engaging and enjoyable for some; but I'm just not that dude. I don't put myself in a position to be aggravated and I don't complain and cry about things being the way they are. I just do my thing on land, man. Enjoy the yarrz, yo. No hate, just reasons. #realtalk #emptyseas #notplayingtobeatarget


    GreysJulesKerria
  • JulesJules Member Posts: 2,169 @ - Epic Achaean

    If you combine Lucine and Khairt's responses in one churning mass, I think you get some approximation of how many of the rest of us feel about it. 

    LucineMelodieKerria
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