Best class for bashing as a mhun?

Razha

As the title states, I want to know the best (fastest leveling) class assuming player character is a mhun. I would also like to know the recommended race specialisation and traits for said class. Considering monk but the endurance drain seems to match if not outweigh the speed increase with crits and combos. Maybe there is a class that can make use of the high dex?

Also, is there really any way to make real money besides bashing for gold? All signs are pointing to no, but I feel like that can't be right.

Hanley

Serpent makes use of high dex, however hunting from what I've seen, isn't all that great. However the high dex only comes out when in combat, which isn't apart of what you asked. However, the statement still stands.

Hanley

Also, for making gold there are quests, obviously hunting, trade skills such as Tailoring, and cooking, or if you go serpent, you can PICKPOCKET denizens for items like gold, inks, and vials.

Naah

I would say Runewarden, personally.

With your runes, pumping some lessons into fitness, some sub-par rapiers for hunting, a good fill of elixers and some food, usually no reason to stop as a Runewarden.

Razha

I should probably add that I'm talking about bashing with no credit purchases, just the ones that come with leveling up.

Nellaundra

Monk then. I bashed pretty damn well as a Mhunish monk, with no credit purchases and only a few lessons into Kaido. I generally only died once I got going by being greedy and hitting places higher than I was supposed to be able to.

Naah

Razha said:

I should probably add that I'm talking about bashing with no credit purchases, just the ones that come with leveling up.

Then I would say runewarden. If you aren't getting into combat, you only need some decent rapiers (not great ones)

Put 30-45 lessons into fitness, get up to Jera in runelore. Put the rest in Chivalry, and hunt to your content.

Hanley

Then Runewarden/Monk/Blademaster would be good choices for bashing. Plus there are quests that you can do to get a lot of gold if you can find them. Along with hunting and questing for gold, you could easily get the gold built up to buy credits in game using the CFS (Credits For Sale) command to show the prices of what people are selling  the credits that they have bought for. In the end, it all comes down to personal preference on what YOU want to do for hunting, do you wish to be a knight? Do you wish to punch and kick things? Do you wish to use a sword and strikes? Thats all any class ends up to.

Aktillum

Mhun Keeper (14str, 11con) or Mhun Bodyguard (12str, 13con). You'll get +1 Con from Weathering in Kaido, and you'll survive better with Regeneration + Boar tattoo. If you can get up to Boosting and Transmute, all the better. I used to hunt Tir Murann and Annwyn as a Rajamala Monk before traits, when Rajamalas were squishy and had a sip penalty. Plowed through moss and willpower from Transmute, but leveled pretty quickly.

For the endurance drain, get an Ox tattoo, a dreamcatcher (increased endurance regen while sleeping) and a forestal friend who will give you grove rains. Also get runes from Runewardens to further increase your Str, Con and health regen. Get armour that's high in Cutting resistance, since that's the damage type most mobs do. And get a Gebo rune on it if you want a little extra cutting resistance.

As for traits, you'll want Fully Fit (endurance regen). You can take Improved Physique for +1 Str, Receptive Body for sipping bonus, or Robust for +1 Con. You'll also want either Aim to Kill (more dmg from crits) or Lucky (higher chance of crits). You'll figure out which traits you prefer as you hunt and figure out your flaws.

Jovolo

Not Runewarden. I dont have time now to explain so hopefully someone will elaborate but with a low credits/lessons investment, it is not a good choice for mid-level hunting.

Follow akti's advice

Kafziel

I'd say bard. Great dps, you only need single trans + tune (under 30 lessons iirc) for bashing, and you can con-spec without gimping your combat. Then once you get cantata and dwinnu you can lightning speed everything

Siduri

Razha said:

I should probably add that I'm talking about bashing with no credit purchases, just the ones that come with leveling up.

Or for frauding a city', amirite?

I hate you, but gg on this one.

Caladbolg

Jovolo said:

Not Runewarden. I dont have time now to explain so hopefully someone will elaborate but with a low credits/lessons investment, it is not a good choice for mid-level hunting. Follow akti's advice

Taking a shot in the dark but you'd need to trans Chivalry/weaponry to get the full benifit from runewarden, plus spend another 100 lessons in rapiers and then get mostly trans in runelore and still have subpar dps compared to monk. While as a monk you can still get runes ontop of your already op for bashing class...

At least as a paladin with runed rapiers+bashing runes inspiration (puts me at 19 strength) with a 1.8 second balance. and 84 damage rapiers. allows me to do 307.77777777777778 (308) dps when tested on my falcon, Draqoom (con spec 14 strength) did around 330-340 dps to the falcon with no runes.

Kaiden

Runewarden is one of my favorite classes to hunt with, but it takes a lot of lessons to really get going. With Runewarden, you can get away with hunting with just Jera and some chivalry with shortswords. But, if you want to use rapiers/scimitars, then you want trans Chivalry and at least Expert Weaponry, or you'll be missing about 10 - 15% of your hits, and it makes a definite difference. Also, Runewarden hunting is only alright until you get high enough in Runelore, too, for the Runeblades/Runearmour, and full hunting runes. Other classes will outclass Runewarden for hunting without these investments.

Paladins are easier than Runewardens lesson-wise, but aren't as effective hunting. They can get toughness and resistance, grab hunting runes from a friendly runist, and inspiration is a nice, easy-upkeep strength boost so you can spec both your race and traits into con. Same problem with weapons though: trans chivalry and expert weaponry for consistent hits with anything other than shortswords.

I have zero experience with Infernal, but the weapon issues remain at the least.

Monk is probably the best for minimal investment. Throw a few into Kaido for the defensive buffs (weathering, toughness, vitality), then dump the rest into Tekura, and you'll be hunting much better than a Runewarden at the same amount of lessons, without buying credits/lesson packages.

Blademaster is excellent hunting, too, with some lessons into Shindo for defensive buffs (toughness is higher in Shindo though, about 240-245 lessons in, so more investment than a monk). Thyr is early in TwoArts and probably the best stance to hunt in, YMMV.  They do tend to be squishier than Monks and knights, but it was never a real issue with me.

Serpent, God only knows why someone brought that up. It sucks for hunting until you get really high in subterfuge and you have a good speed/damage whip (in that order). Once you hit Logosian and get high enough in Sub, it's actually pretty nice. But, without cash investment, it's really, really painful.

Personally, I'd go Monk. Spec con for race, strength and nimble for traits. Grab a halfway decent set of leather armour, and you're good to go.

Antonius

You shouldn't need a single lesson in Weaponry to hit 100% of the time (except on denizens with very high chances to dodge, like Death Knights) with any weapon if you have Trans Chivalry and the correct proficiency.

Atalkez

Bard or Monk

both classes are exceptional at not dying. More often than not, it isn't whether or not you're getting enough xp etc from hunting, But how often you end up dying.

Continuo, canticle, Dwinnu plus runes is so nice. Oh..and Cantata you cant forget that. That alone was worth it as Bard.

Monk is just OP and a good class to dump credits into artefacts on. Not sure on 40-80 hunting but I have never met a monk that stayed low very long.

Kaiden

Antonius said:

You shouldn't need a single lesson in Weaponry to hit 100% of the time (except on denizens with very high chances to dodge, like Death Knights) with any weapon if you have Trans Chivalry and the correct proficiency.

I don't know how long it's been since you've not had Trans weaponry on a knight, but I only got up to expert a few days ago, and my ~160 scimitars were missing on occasion against Siroccian orcs, with proficiency in them. Expert seems to have nullified that completely. It definitely has an effect now.

And bard is great hunting, but also lesson heavy. Canticle, continuo, dwinnu, and cantata are all fairly high up in their respective skills, and for someone who doesn't want to spend cash on lessons, bard isn't so hot in later levels.

Kafziel

Kaiden said:

And bard is great hunting, but also lesson heavy. Canticle, continuo, dwinnu, and cantata are all fairly high up in their respective skills, and for someone who doesn't want to spend cash on lessons, bard isn't so hot in later levels.

None of this is required, though. With just swashbuckling and tune bard is one of the best bashers there is. Your attacks are fairly accurate, good damage, good speed and 2 crit chances. Harms are great but they slow you down a tiny bit so if you can just smash through things you don't use them anyway, and dwinnu/cantata are awesome but they're just gravy