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  • AtalkezAtalkez Member Posts: 4,841 @@ - Legendary Achaean
    @Anedhel‌ I lose to people that aren't stupid, have more arties and/or higher levels. Yeah I hit hard but with barely 4k health against let's say an artied jester with 7k health (@Seftin) going to be hard to win with just a damage stack.


    You hug Aurora compassionately.
    Averi
  • SenaSena Member Posts: 3,954 @@ - Legendary Achaean
    Eld said:


    As I understand it, the probabilities for forging stats are pretty straightforward. Shouldn't be too hard to collect some statistics and see if they pan out as expected.

    I've done that slightly (I don't still have any specific data though), the expected probabilities are accurate close to the average stats, but very off at the extremes. So there may be some factor missing from the details Clementius gave years ago, or RNG flaws, or it was just amazing luck in the stats I compared.
  • EldEld Member Posts: 3,946 @@ - Legendary Achaean
    Sena said:
    As I understand it, the probabilities for forging stats are pretty straightforward. Shouldn't be too hard to collect some statistics and see if they pan out as expected.
    I've done that slightly (I don't still have any specific data though), the expected probabilities are accurate close to the average stats, but very off at the extremes. So there may be some factor missing from the details Clementius gave years ago, or RNG flaws, or it was just amazing luck in the stats I compared.
    Hm, and that was accounting for the weirdness with the relative probabilities updating as you refine?
  • KafzielKafziel Member Posts: 658 ✭✭✭✭✭ - Grand Achaean
    edited March 2014
    Jhui said:
    Anedhel said:
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    It should be spammable..  usable prone

    Jhui
  • SantarSantar Member Posts: 2,382 @@ - Legendary Achaean
    edited March 2014
    When I saw the topic title from the forum main page, "Looking for someone..." I was hoping it was this:


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    BonkoAveri
  • CaladbolgCaladbolg Campbell County TNMember Posts: 1,126 ✭✭✭✭✭ - Grand Achaean
    Atalkez said:
    @Anedhel‌ I lose to people that aren't stupid, have more arties and/or higher levels. Yeah I hit hard but with barely 4k health against let's say an artied jester with 7k health (@Seftin) going to be hard to win with just a damage stack.
    >_> Or evade every two dsls because im at 10% life

  • SenaSena Member Posts: 3,954 @@ - Legendary Achaean
    Eld said:

    Hm, and that was accounting for the weirdness with the relative probabilities updating as you refine?

    Yes. Karoma and I made a calculator (http://sites.google.com/site/senasharpfang/forging-test) for it, modeling it as a graph to calculate the probabilities (it's been a couple years, so I don't remember the specifics very well).
  • EldEld Member Posts: 3,946 @@ - Legendary Achaean
    Sena said:
    Hm, and that was accounting for the weirdness with the relative probabilities updating as you refine?
    Yes. Karoma and I made a calculator (http://sites.google.com/site/senasharpfang/forging-test) for it, modeling it as a graph to calculate the probabilities (it's been a couple years, so I don't remember the specifics very well).
    Right, I know of the calculator (and quote numbers from it from time to time, hence the curiosity about inaccuracies). I was just verifying that what you were referencing was taking that into account because leaving that detail out would seem more likely to throw things off at the extremes.
    Feral
  • JulesJules Member Posts: 2,169 @ - Epic Achaean
    If Clem (or Maya, for that matter) changed something, you can bet he didn't tell us - or if he did, he told us in a throwaway riddle.  
  • MorthifMorthif Member Posts: 1,619 @@ - Legendary Achaean
    WEAPON                               DMG  TO-HIT  SPEED    MTHS LEFT
    ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
    rapier460583                          66     154    223       221
    rapier308528                          78     138    223       222
    rapier57320                           78     162    199       250
    rapier101661                          66     170    187       250
    rapier72834                           82     146    175       250
    rapier43980                           70     166    187       250
    rapier110133                          86     158    183       250
    rapier285923                          66     202    175       250
    rapier410276                          86     142    219       250
    rapier65534                           90     166    171       250
    rapier420613                          70     162    191       250
    rapier47603                           62     190    187       250
    rapier145933                          74     150    187       250
    rapier294022                          66     174    183       250
    rapier346807                          74     162    195       250
    rapier409338                          62     174    191       250
    rapier177810                          70     162    191       250
    rapier35727                           78     158    191       250
    rapier289974                          78     154    199       250
    rapier38536                           94     138    203       250
    rapier410109                          62     182    195       250
    rapier434416                          62     170    219       250
    rapier438668                          74     186    187       250
    rapier437639                          58     154    187       250
    rapier439313                          74     158    171       250
    rapier33747                           82     170    179       250
    rapier159378                          66     142    211       250
    rapier404743                          74     158    199       250
    rapier214455                          78     178    175       250
    rapier415179                          78     154    219       250
    rapier104481                          62     166    191       250
    rapier65751                           70     162    191       250
    rapier160899                          78     150    195       250
    rapier194487                          58     182    183       250
    rapier177477                          78     158    167       250
    rapier410026                          90     138    171       250
    rapier32040                           58     178    203       250
    rapier406741                          70     182    179       250
    rapier293696                          66     166    179       250
    rapier406294                          94     138    187       250
    rapier62791                           74     170    207       250
    rapier126317                          74     170    175       250
    rapier425323                          78     166    187       250
    rapier434502                          66     170    187       250
    rapier102147                          74     158    187       250
    rapier294366                          78     154    179       250
    rapier398778                          82     166    179       250
    rapier343018                          70     162    203       250
    rapier132722                          78     174    199       250
    rapier126515                          74     146    187       250
    rapier439293                          66     166    183       250
    rapier137880                          78     146    203       250
    Exelethril
  • ValdusValdus AustraliaMember Posts: 598 ✭✭✭✭✭ - Grand Achaean
    Here's an excerpt from some of my results when I was Runewarden @Graysonne. You always get speeds at certain breakpoints. 223, 227, 231, 235, 239, 243, etc. Search for 231 in there, or 227. There's 1640something rapiers in that log. See how many meet those levels. And no, that's not anywhere near how many I forged total. That was just that particular excerpt.

    http://pastebin.com/DzqyJWFy

    Viva la Bluef.
  • HaloHalo Member Posts: 57 ✭✭✭✭ - Eminent
    ^^^^ Good example why a good +235 speed rapier is so expensive.  Your fastest out of 1644 rapiers is 227 with pretty awful damage/to-hit.

    NemutaurWessux
  • HaloHalo Member Posts: 57 ✭✭✭✭ - Eminent
    edited March 2014
    Double post,  If you really want to break it down....1644 rapiers will take 8220 steel bars @ (let's say low end average) 80gp per = 657600gp

    Average time to make a single rapier = 3 minutes, 16 seconds, and 20 milliseconds x 1644 = 89.5 Hours, continuously.

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  • VithincusVithincus Member Posts: 149 ✭✭✭✭ - Eminent
    I started forging for rapiers the other night. Out of the 20 I made not one was above 200 speed. I think in the long run it'd just be cheaper to switch out of the paladin class. I'm afraid that if I did that the weaponry change would drop and be awesome. Also I wouldn't be able to get into that cool new Targossian house.
    MorthifPeak
  • NellaundraNellaundra Member Posts: 1,556 @@ - Legendary Achaean
    You are never going to get anything worth it just making 20 at a time.  You need bulk.
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    Kyrra
  • KyrraKyrra Sanctum of the SkyMember Posts: 4,815 @@ - Legendary Achaean
    You are never going to get anything worth it just making 20 at a time.  You need bulk.
    Before forging went pretty crappy, I used to do batches of 20 and get 1-2 decent ones of the bunch. @Peak can verify that since he's sold a couple of my rapiers for me.
    (D.M.A.): Cooper says, "Kyrra is either the most innocent person in the world, or the girl who uses the most innuendo seemingly unintentionally but really on purpose."

  • JulesJules Member Posts: 2,169 @ - Epic Achaean
    If they did change it, I'm just surprised they didn't do it sooner, especially over that relatively long period when there were always several active forgers whose willingness to commit inordinate amounts of time was beyond incredible.  
  • VithincusVithincus Member Posts: 149 ✭✭✭✭ - Eminent
    You are never going to get anything worth it just making 20 at a time.  You need bulk.
    Yeah I realized that pretty early on. When I'm playing a game I like to you know...play the game. Forging is by no leap of the imagination entertaining.  
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