Ignorance for Commshops

Rispok

You tell Ermot Obuun, "I had a question for you."

You tell Ermot Obuun, "Did you purchase all of the steel here?"

Ermot tells you, "Oh?"

Ermot tells you, "Yes."

You tell Ermot Obuun, "Are you aware that purchasing a commodity below a stock of 50 causes the price to shoot up dramatically?"

Ermot tells you, "Yes, it will be a while until I come back again. I've been leaving it at around 10 the past while to keep it as low as possible."

You tell Ermot Obuun, "The price on Umbrin won't be 66 for a few months, because it was purchased to zero."

You tell Ermot Obuun, "I am a member of the Merchant Collective, so I feel it is my duty to inform you that we all suffer when prices dip into a cost-push curve."

 

You tell Ermot Obuun, "I am by no means attempting to enforce action on your part, but I'd like to suggest that you and anyone you speak with be aware that buying below 50 stock will f*** us all over."

That person has chosen to ignore you.

All I can say is... Wow...

Really?

Kyrra

Everyone does it though. Even I do it. It makes one conscious of things like optimal times to go shopping for comms. Get in early to avoid riduculous comm prices!

I'm still amazed at the 25k platinum in Blackrock or whatever it is. Never seems legit to have so much of a comm in stock.

Iocun

Not buying below 50 to make comms cheaper for everybody is like never hunting freshly returning denizens to make all denizens worth more XP for everybody or never buying expensive credits to lower the credit prizes for everyone. Sure, you can do all that to be noble and stuff, but in the end, whether you do it or not has no real actual effect on the quality of the game. Achaea isn't more fun when everything is cheaper.

And IC, there's always the consideration that there's the other side too: denizen vendors that depend on income from comms, for instance. So buying all comms up doesn't "fuck everybody over", only the buyers.

Silas

Get pwned, bitch.

Blujixapug

Rispok said:

You tell Ermot Obuun, "I am a member of the Merchant Collective, so I feel it is my duty to inform you that we all suffer when prices dip into a cost-push curve."

Jeez, be more of a hall monitor. :-B

Trevize

Blujixapug said:

Rispok said:

You tell Ermot Obuun, "I am a member of the Merchant Collective, so I feel it is my duty to inform you that we all suffer when prices dip into a cost-push curve."

Jeez, be more of a hall monitor. :-B

3.7.4 Meta Monitors, for halls and all

(see also HELP HALL MONITORS)

A metamonitor (meta monitor) is one who constantly reminds people not to be

hall monitors, freely citing HELP HALL MONITORS.

Don't be a meta monitor! Meta monitors need to read HELP HALL MONITORS and then

apply everything in there to themselves. The punishment for meta monitors is

even more severe than for monitors, if that were even possible!

(see also HELP HALL MONITORS)

(yes, I'm a meta-meta monitor!)

Blujixapug

Oh thanks @Trevize, I appreciate you pointing out that I was in violation of that.

[spoiler][spoiler][spoiler][/spoiler][/spoiler][/spoiler]

Caoimhaen

Dude! He is ruining the free market! Trying to figure out what to do to him to make him stop. Haha

Rispok

I don't really care if people buy out shops. What amazed me was the near-instant snub when I was simply engaging in rp. Oh well.

Jules

This isn't a free market... It's more like an oligopoly if we're going to go there.  Bottom line is that I've never liked this aspect of the comm shop mechanism, because of course there is going to be at least one person who buys all of the comms, and drives prices sky high over a period of time.  That's just people being people.  As a player, it's only "annoying" on occasion, but I imagine if I had to stock a city comm shop it would drive me nuts (thank you, city stockers for saving me from pulling my hair out when I do want to buy comms).  Achaea may not be "more fun when everything is cheaper", but it's sure not *more* fun with this set-up, which fosters "jerk" behavior on one end, and "hall monitor" behavior on the other.  No thanks, would love it if admin scrapped this set-up.  

Silas

Comms are fine.

Jules

Well, it's not as if they're "ruining the whole game, omg!", but there's definitely room for improvement.  So, in that sense, they're "fine".

Veldrin

"fine"

Kyrra

If Cyrene reserves haven't changed much and Lisbethae is still running Trade the way she did when I was an aide, Cyrene won't be running out of commodities anytime soon.

When I stock up on steel, I pretty much hit every comm shop in both villages and cities. Eleusis has pretty fantastic prices and I've even sold steel back to them after depleting their reserves a bit.

It's not a huge deal. Sometimes you get lucky on stock and the lowest prices and sometimes you don't. The comms market fluctuates nicely. That's the difference between shopping in cities and sourcing right from the villages.

From memory, folks with trade satchels still sell to the city for gold too, since Cyrene buys and sells. You could always approach people to ask if they have anything in stock they might consider selling you for a discount since those comms were virtually free.

Penwize

Is it bad that I didn't even know commodity buying/selling was actually a thing people did and cared about?  I thought you just like ... went to all the villages, bought 10000 leather, and dumped it on your local forger once every few months. Who knew?

Jules

@Kyrra - Yeah, if Cyrene weren't so consistently awesome about maintaining stock I'd probably actually be a little mad.  

Greys

I actually would be interested if merchants collective starts policing such things.  You know akin to what Oakstone is for forests.  Granted, I'm not sure it would make sense for them to do so but as I said, interesting.   Still yeah, surprised with the ignore as you hadn't said that much yet. C'est Achaea.