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  • DunnDunn Member, Secret Squirrel Posts: 6,188 @@ - Legendary Achaean
    The only way to kill firewalls now is rainstorm in Sylvan elementalism. I wouldn't mind if standard flood killed them too. It makes sense.



    Xith
  • TeshaTesha Member Posts: 2,917 @@ - Legendary Achaean
    edited September 2013
    Allowing Magi to make an expensive (lots of ice, few thousand gold, long time of enchanting) sigil for it sounds neat. Okay with flood, too.

     i'm a rebel

    ExelethrilJhui
  • AliathAliath Member Posts: 90 ✭✭✭ - Distinguished
    Or could just let an icewall cast by a magi 'overwrite' it
  • NakariNakari Member Posts: 596 ✭✭✭✭✭ - Grand Achaean
    edited September 2013
    everybody's out to take my abilities...

  • TectonTecton The Garden of the GodsAdministrator Posts: 2,507 Admin
    Firewalls don't currently interfere with archery accuracy, just stone and ice. As we look at more ways to try and bring ranged and melee combat into unison, there may be changes in that regard.
    Dunn
  • JulesJules Member Posts: 2,169 @ - Epic Achaean
    I think the wish is to be able to kill the firewalls that allow people to keep firing.
    DunnNemutaurBambizlo
  • TectonTecton The Garden of the GodsAdministrator Posts: 2,507 Admin
    Jules said:
    I think the wish is to be able to kill the firewalls that allow people to keep firing.
    Something we will look at in the future, no immediate plans for this though
    JulesXith
  • StrataStrata United States of DerpMember Posts: 1,753 @ - Epic Achaean
    Looking good so far. Thank you @Tecton for bringing SNIPE accuracy back up. Though it should be 100% (without aim) if target is asleep/paralysed and there is no obstruction - no matter what. I agree that without aiming, there should be a *small* chance of missing a snipe. We have wind, aim, and snipe - plus we can use artefact bows and take marksman trait. All of these things are the perks of Serpent. This does not mean we should expect to have 100% perfect shots every time as that wouldn't be very organic.

    If a target is sleeping or paralysed, 1 room away, you have aim, snipe, marksman, l3 bow and you miss... which should not happen under any circumstances, but IF IT DOES -- there should be an in game message that looks something like this:
    You pull an arrow from your quiver and nock it to your bow.
    You draw in a deep breath and begin to focus your aim on Jovolo.
    You feel confident that your aim is accurate.
    You train your expert eye on Jovolo and let fly an arrow with breathtaking precision.
    Your aim augments the flight of your arrow.
    You miss Jovolo, even though he's paralysed and asleep.
    You have been slain by misadventure.
    Derp.

    Aside from that, hopefully more people will be entering melee as a result of this. Or perhaps all of Mhaldor will switch to serpent because their botnet just took a huge nerf. =))
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  • JarrodJarrod Member, Seafaring Liason Posts: 3,060 @@ - Legendary Achaean
    After pre-Snipe boost change, if you aimed with no obstruction you hit 100% of the time already. With the Snipe boost it'll mainly just bump the percent up a little on dry-sniping, which (based on the Icon raid yesterday) is very good.
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  • AntoniusAntonius Member Posts: 4,807 @@ - Legendary Achaean
    @Taraus: No, that's eventually suggested in pretty much every extended discussion about bows. May as well introduce an Achaean version of Godwin's law: "As a discussion about bows grows longer, the probability of flaming arrows being suggested approaches 1."
    EldSylvance
  • TarausTaraus The Gypsy WindMember, Seafaring Liason Posts: 889 @@ - Legendary Achaean
    Oh, okay. Never actually paid attention to them before because I didn't have a bow! (and for the record, it was 95% tongue-in-cheek)

  • VadimusesVadimuses Member Posts: 1,105 @ - Epic Achaean
    Tecton said:
    Firewalls don't currently interfere with archery accuracy, just stone and ice. As we look at more ways to try and bring ranged and melee combat into unison, there may be changes in that regard.
    Where to lightwalls fit in?
    Exelethril
  • MelodieMelodie Port Saint Lucie, FloridaMember Posts: 5,010 @@ - Legendary Achaean
    Oh my god light arrows. Yesssss.

    We have fire and light, now we need ice!
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  • ArditiArditi Member Posts: 841
    Melodie said:

    Oh my god light arrows. Yesssss.

    We have fire and light, now we need ice!

    Do you realize how much of a pain it's going to be to code a Gerudo Training Grounds?

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  • ArditiArditi Member Posts: 841
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  • PhraagPhraag Member Posts: 64 ✭✭✭ - Distinguished
    Ice arrows don't make sense. Fire arrows yeah I see that. Light arrows? Like how does light attach to a fired arrow? I don't have any bow abilities, but as a Samurai, I mean blademaster that would be cool you could call it Kyudo.  B-)
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  • AchimrstAchimrst NatureMember Posts: 3,608 @@ - Legendary Achaean
    Phraag said:
    Ice arrows don't make sense. Fire arrows yeah I see that. Light arrows? Like how does light attach to a fired arrow? I don't have any bow abilities, but as a Samurai, I mean blademaster that would be cool you could call it Kyudo.  B-)
    Aurora's blessing as they pass through the light?
  • XithXith Member Posts: 2,602 @@ - Legendary Achaean
    First of all, light bow.
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    Second of all, couple questions to clarify.
    1. What did the bonus through icewall business refer to in Tecton's stats? arrows miss through icewalls, right?
    2. Someone asked, but does dex/etc apply in the accuracy scheme of arrows, and does entanglement/etc reduce dodginess as normal? The statement that sleep didn't affect it leads me to think no... but then why? Dex is already so underwhelming of a stat, that wouldn't seem right.
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  • JhuiJhui Member Posts: 1,958 @@ - Legendary Achaean
    sleeping/prone makes sense.

    you're flat on the ground, that's hard to hit!

    I do wonder about paralysis, and entanglements though.

    (prone should make arrows harder to hit, that'd be a fun balancing mechanic to play with,  The arrow changing damage type through fire/lightwalls would be cool a shit, too.  Please implement.)

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  • IocunIocun Member Posts: 3,506 @@ - Legendary Achaean
    Jhui said:
    you're flat on the ground, that's hard to hit!
    What if you're flat on the ground in a hole behind a tree though? WHAT THEN?
    Yae
  • JhuiJhui Member Posts: 1,958 @@ - Legendary Achaean
    that would be Delphinus burrowing, and the only way to kill that is with @bonko level griefing
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  • IocunIocun Member Posts: 3,506 @@ - Legendary Achaean
    Or gnome friends.
  • BronislavBronislav MarylandMember Posts: 347 ✭✭✭✭✭ - Grand Achaean

    Strata said:
    Looking good so far. Thank you @Tecton for bringing SNIPE accuracy back up. Though it should be 100% (without aim) if target is asleep/paralysed and there is no obstruction - no matter what. I agree that without aiming, there should be a *small* chance of missing a snipe. We have wind, aim, and snipe - plus we can use artefact bows and take marksman trait. All of these things are the perks of Serpent. This does not mean we should expect to have 100% perfect shots every time as that wouldn't be very organic.

    If a target is sleeping or paralysed, 1 room away, you have aim, snipe, marksman, l3 bow and you miss... which should not happen under any circumstances, but IF IT DOES -- there should be an in game message that looks something like this:
    You pull an arrow from your quiver and nock it to your bow.
    You draw in a deep breath and begin to focus your aim on Jovolo.
    You feel confident that your aim is accurate.
    You train your expert eye on Jovolo and let fly an arrow with breathtaking precision.
    Your aim augments the flight of your arrow.
    You miss Jovolo, even though he's paralysed and asleep.
    You have been slain by misadventure.
    Derp.

    Aside from that, hopefully more people will be entering melee as a result of this. Or perhaps all of Mhaldor will switch to serpent because their botnet just took a huge nerf. =))
    ..I'm taking that quote. :)



    Sylvance
  • MizikMizik Member Posts: 2,095 @@ - Legendary Achaean
    Achaea Physics (tm)
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