Mixology mini-skill

Madelyne

Purpose- to make drinks

AB MIXOLOGY

You have gained the following abilities in Mixology:

Mix           Mix existing drinks

Water       Use water to prepare new drinks

Drinks       Create your own new drinks

Milk          Use milk to prepare new drinks

Grain        Add alcohol effects to your drink

Alteration  Make minor alterations to drinks you mix

Portions    Wasting less means larger portions

AB MIXOLOGY MIX

Syntax: MIX <drink>

With a basic understanding of mixology, you are able to prepare drinks created by other people. To find drinks, you may use the NDS system.

AB MIXOLOGY WATER

Syntax: MIX <ingredient>

Water is a key component in the creation of water-based drink ingredients, which you have knowledge of making.

Ingredient: Fruit drink / Recipe: 2 water, 1 fruit

Ingredient: Vegetable drink / Recipe: 2 water, 1 vegetable

Ingredient: Kawhe / Recipe: 2 water, 1 kawhe

Ingredient: Tea / Recipe: 2 water, 1 spices

AB MIXOLOGY DRINKS

(the mix drink version of prepare recipe outlined in AB COOKING RECIPE)

AB MIXOLOGY MILK

Milk is a key component in the creation of milk-based drink ingredients, which you have the knowledge of making.

Ingredient: Cocoa / Recipe 2 milk, 1 cacao

Ingredient: Milkshake / Recipe 2 milk, 1 elemental ice

AB MIXOLOGY GRAIN

Grain is a key component in the creation of alcoholic drink ingredients, which you have the knowledge of making.

Because I haven't thought this out enough to type it out completely, the idea here is that ingredients would include basic variations of alcohol brandy / vodka / rum / tequila / wine / etc. each one requiring 2 water and accumulating amounts of grain, based on the strength of the drink. For example wine may take 1 grain, while tequila might take 4 and absinthe 8.

AB MIXOLOGY ALTERATION

(would work similar to cooking miniskill ability)

AB MIXOLOGY PORTIONS

(would work similar to cooking miniskill ability)

Jacen

I think Amunet proposed something very similar awhile back. Don't remember the admin response, though

Eld

Yeah, some sort of drink-making miniskill is Listed.

Peak

The players in Achaea are not responsible enough to handle this skill. Grammatically insulting recipes litter Achaea as well as a few that I don't know how ever came to be (the ejaculation pastries?).  Please, for the love of anything I cherish in Achaea, hell no. Not until there is a recipe clean-up.

Amunet

You see a few awful recipes and think we are all horrid, @Peak. It's really insulting. I hate the bunny rabbit lollies and third-person pseudo-fellatio messages as much as you do - likely more so - but I don't think that all crafters should be punished due to the indiscretions of an obnoxious minority. The only way crafting will ever improve is if the UUC cracks down (and it has been, since the new leadership took over; the first thing addressed over the clan channel was the overabundance of cupcake recipes) , and those of us who design items well are given the opportunity to lead by example. 

I not only support the OP, but I will campaign vociferously until such time as I am able to mix drinks in the bar in my text-house.

Here was my original post on the subject; feel free to make suggestions!

Blujixapug

A couple of things I would like to see in a miniskill like this are ways for people to create and name their own cocktails, ways for people to create (ferment/distill/brew) their own vintages of wine and spirits, and rare ingredients.

There's so much appeal in being able to invent a cocktail, pick out all the ingredients, and stamp a name on it - the Muddy Shoe, the Black Rabbit - or even name it after yourself, so I hope a naming system like that would be accomodated by a Mixology recipe system.

The ability for wines etc to age, accumulate value, and become sought-after would be really cool if that could somehow be executed. Imagine each city having their own winery/distillery and city cellars, with bottled wine not lasting long when removed from those cellars - unless it's stored in a wine cellar upgrade which you can add to your house, or something. 80 years later your half-dozen bottles of well-aged Adikoi claret are rare and sought-after. I don't know how you could mechanically designate value, or simulate the development of flavours or whatever it is that happens to wine when you leave it in a hole for a few decades (since you can't taste text), but it could become its own economy and that would be amazing.

Rare ingredients make so much sense in cocktails and drinks. I think it's a concept that integrates very well into a fantasy RPG like Achaea, where rare ingredients can be designated as items that people can adventure for, and it disappointed me a little when this was overlooked in the creation of Cooking. Imagine having a drink recipe that could only be created if you had a certain fresh fruit from Zanzibaar or Meropis, or a particular rare herb, or a quantity of fresh basilisk blood, or a type of foreign rum that had to be traded for. That would really elevate those drinks to something special, something with a value and significance beyond their description alone.

I don't really want to see cocoa or milkshake designs because I just know shops will be flooded with "a mug of sweet cocoa overflowing with cute bunny marshmallows" and "a cute cream-topped banana milkshake drizzled with sweet caramel". Stuff like that - and you absolutely see it with Tailoring (sexy panties), Jewellery (sexy toe rings), and Baking Cooking (sexy cupcakes) - makes me imagine Achaea as a version of Lothlorien where all the elves sit around eating ice cream and texting each other. I guess some people like that though...

Unfortunately all of this is moot because we can't have distilling, or anything associated, until we get a pirate class to bootleg and smuggle the stuff.
:ar!

Linian

Having the ability to actually brew some of the materials of drinks with the proper ingredients, rather than just buy and mix them, would be pretty interesting too. Maybe not cost effective, considering how much such things would cost, but who wouldn't want to own their own working text-brewery at some point to go along with that text-wine cellar?

Sylvance

Make it so that with a high enough mixology skill, if you TASTE the cock's tail you can discern its ingredients.  That way I can figure the ingredients in @Amunet's Silent City drink, make my own and call it Mute Button. Could have some awesome trade wars!

(No, I haven't read the minutiae of this or any previous Mixology proposal, so apologies if this is already on the table!)

Jonathin

You guys realize that the list isn't really that difficult to check out, right?

The List - Part II

     5.  Woodworkng/Leatherworking/Sculpting/Drink making miniskills.

Rispok

Surprised nobody raised concern with, for how this proposal was phrased, the fact that alcohol can come from fruit as well as grain and vegetable and blah. Could be neat to make grain early skill and fruit and veggie later skill?

ETA: anyone can gather water. Purifying it as a skill is ok?

Eld

Jonathin said:

You guys realize that the list isn't really that difficult to check out, right?

I disagree. It usually takes me 5 minutes or so to find the List. WTB decent forum search tool.

Hegua

Eld said:

Jonathin said:

You guys realize that the list isn't really that difficult to check out, right?

I disagree. It usually takes me 5 minutes or so to find the List. WTB decent forum search tool.

There are decent search options available as plugins, e.g. sphinx integration, though convincing the powers that be to look into it is a whole other matter. I'd even consider indexing it and offering a third-party search but that'd require one of the public APIs being activated which puts us back in the same boat.

Froh

Blujixapug said:

The ability for wines etc to age, accumulate value, and become sought-after would be really cool if that could somehow be executed. Imagine each city having their own winery/distillery and city cellars, with bottled wine not lasting long when removed from those cellars - unless it's stored in a wine cellar upgrade which you can add to your house, or something. 80 years later your half-dozen bottles of well-aged Adikoi claret are rare and sought-after. I don't know how you could mechanically designate value, or simulate the development of flavours or whatever it is that happens to wine when you leave it in a hole for a few decades (since you can't taste text), but it could become its own economy and that would be amazing.

And the old is new again.

Sarapis may still have the design sitting around; he once put together a very detailed design for growing grapes, making wine, and aging it.

Something like that could even make the wildnerness useful (vineyards, farms, etc.)

 

Synbios

Froh said:

Blujixapug said:

The ability for wines etc to age, accumulate value, and become sought-after would be really cool if that could somehow be executed. Imagine each city having their own winery/distillery and city cellars, with bottled wine not lasting long when removed from those cellars - unless it's stored in a wine cellar upgrade which you can add to your house, or something. 80 years later your half-dozen bottles of well-aged Adikoi claret are rare and sought-after. I don't know how you could mechanically designate value, or simulate the development of flavours or whatever it is that happens to wine when you leave it in a hole for a few decades (since you can't taste text), but it could become its own economy and that would be amazing.

And the old is new again.

Sarapis may still have the design sitting around; he once put together a very detailed design for growing grapes, making wine, and aging it.

Something like that could even make the wildnerness useful (vineyards, farms, etc.)

 

There's a winepress in the Shamtota Hills where you can do the jump-on-grapes thing, add spices, etc.

Rispok

Synbios said:

There's a winepress in the Shamtota Hills where you can do the jump-on-grapes thing, add spices, etc.

I wish that thing was cooler. You can never get more than like... slightly buzzed, no matter how much you drink. Also it doesn't understand that I want to make knaveberry wine. Or Loganberry. Or all those other weird things you can find around the world. It accepts them as ingredients, but the end product is identical to if you used significantly more pedestrian components, like grapes. It's a good start, but it's soooo old that it needs looking into.

Jonathin

Hegua said:

Eld said:

Jonathin said:

You guys realize that the list isn't really that difficult to check out, right?

I disagree. It usually takes me 5 minutes or so to find the List. WTB decent forum search tool.

There are decent search options available as plugins, e.g. sphinx integration, though convincing the powers that be to look into it is a whole other matter. I'd even consider indexing it and offering a third-party search but that'd require one of the public APIs being activated which puts us back in the same boat.

uhh

CTRL-F

Eld

Jonathin said:

Hegua said:

Eld said:

Jonathin said:

You guys realize that the list isn't really that difficult to check out, right?

I disagree. It usually takes me 5 minutes or so to find the List. WTB decent forum search tool.

There are decent search options available as plugins, e.g. sphinx integration, though convincing the powers that be to look into it is a whole other matter. I'd even consider indexing it and offering a third-party search but that'd require one of the public APIs being activated which puts us back in the same boat.

uhh

CTRL-F

Not sure if trolling...

Xith

Amunet said:

You see a few awful recipes and think we are all horrid, @Peak. It's really insulting. I hate the bunny rabbit lollies and third-person pseudo-fellatio messages as much as you do - likely more so - but I don't think that all crafters should be punished due to the indiscretions of an obnoxious minority. 

But all special Achaean food has 'orgasm in your mouth' subtexts. Have you ever eaten at Hashan's alehouse?

Jiraishin

I only want this skill if I can make really potent drinks with curare and eurypteria mixed in.

Synbios

Jiraishin said:

I only want this skill if I can make really potent drinks with curare and eurypteria mixed in.

I'd go brewmeister just for this. 

Blujixapug

I can see voyria + immunity as Achaea's Red Bull + vodka. Or poppers + viagra.

Synbios

"Hey! Hey! Watch me down five shots of Aconite-Camus Delight!"

And those words were the final words of Billy Bob's good reputation.

Sylvance

Delphinium + Curare = Roofie-colada

Peak

#provingmypoint

Jiraishin

@Peak How so?

Peak

Until people show a general improvement in recipe responsibility, I want a tighter leash on these things. There needs to be some recipe burning done. Or at least a way to flag existing ones to have admins give it a second+ look. It may very well be that a select few are ruining it for everyone, but it's still being ruined imo.

If there is a player that's consistently putting out bad/ooc/or otherwise awful recipes, take away their ability.

Amunet

As nice as it would be to be able to cull the poor designers, the administration will never do it. Most people spend real-life money on credits for their crafting licenses, making them effectively off-limits for any considerable sanction. The stupidest of designs are typically turned away by the UUC, and what remains tends to have some feeble RP basis - the Pandorans with their asinine cotton candy moustaches, for example, or the BDSM MUDsexers with their bondage collars. 

No one -likes- to see this sort of thing, but the only thing you can do is ignore the bad and focus on the good. Just because Coors, Kokanee, and Budweiser dominate the selection of beers on tap doesn't mean I can't just go to a bar that serves No-Li and Moose Drool, you know? There will always be stupid people, and there will always be shitty products. If you don't like it, don't spend your money on it. Plain and simple. Your inability to ignore bad descriptions shouldn't ruin things for the rest of us.

Peak

I don't want to see an achaean version of trashcan punch.

I would be happy with a way to flag a really horrible recipe to let the admins re-review it. The ejaculation pastries really shouldn't have ever been allowed.

Amunet

I could get behind a flagging system if there was greater administrative oversight in crafting. I acknowledge that the UUC has severely limited resources, however. Design editing is thankless work, and I trust those in charge of granting the approvals to use their best judgement. If a flagging system is implemented, I worry that more time will be spent reviewing and responding to flags than will be spent approving new designs - most of which will be perfectly fine. 

People who fabricate crappy designs do it for the attention. It's best not to give it to them.

Sasiya

More often than not, when additions are proposed to Achaea's crafting - or even when they just get discussed on the UUC clan - I hear about how Achaea's playerbase is not mature enough to handle that kind of responsibility. A few examples would be 1p/3p worn/removed messages and, as per this thread, making drinks.

Seriously? Bring out the banhammer. Or turn offenders all green and leafy. Or just revoke crafting privileges for a few weeks. Why should the many have to suffer because of the indiscretions of the few? It makes me sad.

Also.

The cake is a lie.

Boosteya

Amunet said:

As nice as it would be to be able to cull the poor designers, the administration will never do it. Most people spend real-life money on credits for their crafting licenses, making them effectively off-limits for any considerable sanction. The stupidest of designs are typically turned away by the UUC, and what remains tends to have some feeble RP basis - the Pandorans with their asinine cotton candy moustaches, for example, or the majority of the Sylvans, plus whatever Cyrenian/Hashani they can rope into it with their bondage collars.

ftfy

Sorry, minority of Sylvans who aren't part of the problem!