Falcon Glance

Kresslack

So I've noticed that when you're in the wilderness, if you're on the ground you get the regular view. If you're flying, however, you get a slightly larger view of the area. Same with being out to see, if you're on the Quaterdeck, you get the regular view, but if you climb up into the mast, you get a larger view of the surrounding area. 

However, I've noticed that this does not seem to be the case with Falcons when you use the Glance ability, which doesn't really make sense. From a ship perspective(since that's where I was when I just noticed it), I can be on the Quarterdeck and have my falcon Circle and then Glance, and I get the same view I do on the deck. The falcon is flying above the ship, so it would seem as if you would be able to see more of your surrounding if you're looking through it's eyes via Glance. 

I would like to suggest this be reviewed and that falcons be able to gain more vision of their surroundings when flying above a location. Currently it seems to be linked to the actual Falconeer's viewpoint, because if I'm in the Crow's Nest, and I do falcon glance with it flying, I get a large view.

Antonius

It's not the only falconry ability that uses the location/elevation of the player rather than the falcon - FALCON CIRCLE has a similar issue (and was raised in the last round of Classlead suggestions, take a look at #129) - so having them all changed to use the falcon's location would be nice. If I remember I'll make a note about them when we get around to Infernal's evaluation.

Kresslack

Awesome. I wasn't sure how to check circle, I just noticed while sailing that the viewpoints always matched what I was seeing. I could even be in the crow's nest and have the falcon on the deck and if I did Falcon Glance it would show me the same spread as seen from the crow's nest.

Kinilan

Falcons used to see more while flying above a ship. Or rather you saw less while on the deck. The range you saw while on deck was expanded to match the range falcons and anyone flying could see so as to not give them a class advantage while sailing.

Delphinus

1) Flying above a ship and standing on the deck offer the same visibility. This is intentional.
2) If glance used the falcon's location, people would just leave a falcon in the crow's nest. It would invalidate much of the purpose in having someone up there, which is contrary to the co-op design of ships.

Kresslack

Except this isn't just a ship only thing. It's the same instance for the Wilderness. Regardless, the range while standing on deck has not been expanded as I can tell, rather the range falcons see while flying Above the ship, even above the crow's nest, was shrunken. If that's a class advantage while sailing, then so is using Sloth morph.

Delphinus

Kresslack said:

Regardless, the range while standing on deck has not been expanded as I can tell, rather the range falcons see while flying Above the ship, even above the crow's nest, was shrunken.

No, you're confused.

Originally, ship visibility was the same as normal wilderness range: 17x25 on the ground, and 25x37 in the air. As a result, no one was actually standing on the deck while shipboard. To curb this, standing-on-the-deck wilderness range (17x25) was expanded to 25x37, making it the same as flying. The crow's nest was added later, and expanded further to encourage the use of specialisations.

Edit: If you're saying that falcon glance is always returning a 17x25 output, yes, that's a bug. Wilderness visibility on a ship should never be 17x25, for you or your falcon, unless you have nightsight disabled.