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XithXith Posts: 2,602Member @@ - Legendary Achaean

Before anyone throws a fit, this discussion is hypothetical.

 

Given the current restrictions on some classes' citizenship, I thought it would be interesting to take it to an extreme, where every class was designated to one city.
There are only 17 classes and 6 cities, so someone would fall short regardless until there is an 18th class. But here is what I have so far:

Ashtan
Occultist

Cyrene
Runewarden
Bard

Eleusis
Sentinel
Sylvan
Druid

Hashan
Shaman*
Magi*

Mhaldor
Infernal
Apostate

Shallam
Paladin
Priest

-Unsorted-
Jester (C/A)
Serpent (H/M/A)
Monk (H/A)
Alchemist (H/A)
Blademaster (H/A)

*The shaman house and original magi house are in Hashan, hence my inclination there. Could be wrong.
Thoughts?

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  • VayneVayne Rhode IslandPosts: 1,897Member @@ - Legendary Achaean
    Serpent/Magi/Shaman...but no.
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    Boosteya
  • MelodieMelodie Port Saint Lucie, FloridaPosts: 4,777Member @@ - Legendary Achaean
    edited November 2012
    Some classes really don't have the same moral filter as, say, a priest does. Magi are magi in every city - they just choose which set of beliefs they prefer. This applies to several (though not all) classes.

    (insert general objection of no Cyrenian Devos here)
    "You have had an extraordinary adventure, my dear. Extraordinary! One that few people could ever imagine. Treasure it. Keep it safe and secure, tucked away in some special place in your heart. 

    But... don't spend the rest of your days chasing a ghost."
  • MannimarMannimar Posts: 973Member

    What I'd rather see is Achaea pulling away one House per city per class system. I understand why it had to happen, but I think it hurts the potential RP for people, and really forces people into going rogue or join a House they don't like. I do think it needs to be in the hands of the Garden/Patrons to approve of a class for a House, but I think that the Houses should write up a proposal for why class 'x' works in their house. Basically an argument about the RP of your house and said class. With that in mind I thought up the make-up of Hashani houses.


    Crown Merchants

    Infernal
    Runewarden
    Jester
    Magi
    Alchemist

    Black Lotus

    Infernal
    Runewarden
    Blademaster
    Monk
    Bard

    Spirit Walkers

    Shaman
    Alchemist
    Runewarden

    Serpent Lords

    Serpents

    The reason I structured it in such a way is because each House has a strong roleplay that supports them having access to these classes. Now, I wasn't really present during the Guild to House change, but from what I understand, the current class restrictions were due to House leaders abusing the power to add and remove classes to let their friends into the House. I think this would eliminate the abuse of that while expanding roleplay opportunities.
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  • XithXith Posts: 2,602Member @@ - Legendary Achaean

    Yeah that wasn't the idea here. Actually not an idea thread at all. I'm talking about a hypothetical situation where they have to be sorted. Where would everything go?
    If you had to assign Monk to any one city, which one would get it?

     

    I like my steak like I like my Magic cards: mythic rare.
  • MannimarMannimar Posts: 973Member
    the issue with that is the fact that monk and serpent weren't excluded to a single guild, and alchemist was purposefully placed in the cities. however, if i were to go along with this, i would have to say, for ig reasons, that warden would have to be in cyrene and hashan.
  • TvistorTvistor Posts: 2,883Member @@ - Legendary Achaean
    My essay would be "We have the word Naga in our name" and Vayne's would be "We have the word serpent in our name."
    The quickest way to a woman's heart is through her ribcage.
  • IocunIocun Posts: 3,506Member @@ - Legendary Achaean
    Some of those houses-then-guilds used to be located in different cities (or cityless) back then, which further complicates the issue (e.g. the Kharon being in Ashtan etc.).
  • TanrisTanris Posts: 683Member @ - Epic Achaean

    Ashtan:
    Occultist, blademaster

    Shallam:
    Priest, Paladin, Magi

    Cyrene:
    Runewarden, Bard, Monk, Jester

    Hashan:
    Serpent, Alchemist, Shaman

    Mhaldor:
    Infernal, Apostate.

    SylvanceXithIdelisaBoosteya
  • BeyaBeya Posts: 353Member ✭✭✭✭✭ - Grand Achaean
    The Institute will take the Jesters. Everyone but Xith and Kaie (sorry babes).
    "Trust in me, Universe, I will deliver / the promise that no-one shall ever / set their mind to games or play / for Serious Order is the way. I will not rest until it is done; / rules will be made for everyone. / They will know Order and its graces - and just like me, all shall be Greyfaces." - The Heroes of Sapience, Act 5, Greyface.
    Boosteya
  • XithXith Posts: 2,602Member @@ - Legendary Achaean
    Tanris said:

    Ashtan:
    Occultist, blademaster

    Shallam:
    Priest, Paladin, Magi

    Cyrene:
    Runewarden, Bard, Monk, Jester

    Hashan:
    Serpent, Alchemist, Shaman

    Mhaldor:
    Infernal, Apostate.


    The elegant solution of removing Eleusis entirely. The weird thing is that I didn't even notice at first.
    I like my steak like I like my Magic cards: mythic rare.
    Boosteya
  • VeldrinVeldrin DenmarkPosts: 385Member ✭✭✭✭ - Eminent
    Xith said:
    Tanris said:

    Ashtan:
    Occultist, blademaster

    Shallam:
    Priest, Paladin, Magi

    Cyrene:
    Runewarden, Bard, Monk, Jester

    Hashan:
    Serpent, Alchemist, Shaman

    Mhaldor:
    Infernal, Apostate.


    The elegant solution of removing Eleusis entirely. The weird thing is that I didn't even notice at first.
    If you notice he hasn't mentioned Sylvans, Druids or Sentinels either so they just naturally fit with Eleusis that way
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  • XithXith Posts: 2,602Member @@ - Legendary Achaean
    That was the joke.
    I like my steak like I like my Magic cards: mythic rare.
  • DelphinusDelphinus Posts: 896Member @@ - Legendary Achaean
    If a city had to take jesters, it would probably be Ashtan. They're the only ones with jester guards.
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  • MizikMizik Posts: 2,071Member @@ - Legendary Achaean
    Tanris said:

    Ashtan:
    Occultist, Blademaster

    Shallam:
    Priest, Paladin, Magi

    Cyrene:
    Runewarden, Bard, Monk, Jester

    Hashan:
    Serpent, Alchemist, Shaman

    Mhaldor:
    Infernal, Apostate.

    Eleusis:

    Sentinel, Druid, Sylvan

    ^^^

    Jester tough to place.
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    SylvanceBoosteyaTvistor
  • AerekAerek East Tennessee, USAPosts: 1,818Member @@ - Legendary Achaean

    Mizik said:
    Tanris said:

    Ashtan:
    Occultist, Blademaster

    Shallam:
    Priest, Paladin, Magi

    Cyrene:
    Runewarden, Bard, Monk, Jester

    Hashan:
    Serpent, Alchemist, Shaman

    Mhaldor:
    Infernal, Apostate.

    Eleusis:

    Sentinel, Druid, Sylvan

    ^^^

    Jester tough to place.
    I'd go with this, though I'd put Jesters in Ashtan with their Occultist ties. Magi and Alchemist are the toughest for me, since everyone has had Magi and Alchemists have no precedent.
    -- Grounded in but one perspective, what we perceive is an exaggeration of the truth.
  • TanrisTanris Posts: 683Member @ - Epic Achaean

    @Delphinus:

    Ashtan's not had jester guards in a long time. (I assume you mean the jokers).

  • XithXith Posts: 2,602Member @@ - Legendary Achaean

    Alchemists had some Twilight basis, so they do fit best in Hashan. I did consider Jester for Ashtan too of course, given the tarot and the blend with chaos/freedom/mischief.

    The one thing I don't follow is why Monk is Cyrenese? @Tanris care to elaborate?

    I like my steak like I like my Magic cards: mythic rare.
  • XithXith Posts: 2,602Member @@ - Legendary Achaean
    Tanris said:
    Because if anyone else got it the forums would constantly be spammed with people complaining how unfair it was.

    Lol. That's actually all I could think of. Smart man.
    I like my steak like I like my Magic cards: mythic rare.
  • ThaumasThaumas Posts: 432Member ✭✭✭✭ - Eminent
    I prefer druids who shun cities.
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  • AerekAerek East Tennessee, USAPosts: 1,818Member @@ - Legendary Achaean
    I've always liked that the Druids' House stayed apart from Eleusis, from a roleplay standpoint. From a practical standpoint, though, it's made the Druids less and less relevant to the game as time goes on.
    -- Grounded in but one perspective, what we perceive is an exaggeration of the truth.
    AnatralAinaBoosteya
  • DelphinusDelphinus Posts: 896Member @@ - Legendary Achaean
    edited November 2012
    @Aerek: All it really does is strangle the house's ascent into something of RP worth. Encourage the interesting people to stay around, let them do interesting things, and the house will stay interesting. That doesn't happen through insularity.

    The Druid house is a good candidate for delete-this-first-if-any, but I'd prefer to salvage it. There's huge potential there if the gods are willing to smack the old guard until they play ball. (I acknowledge with some bitterness that I was booted for trying to teach people how to play ball.)

    Anyway, we have isolationist forestals and they're called rogues.
    Post edited by Delphinus on
  • XerXer LangleyPosts: 804Member
    Just get a singing hat and let it make the decision for you >.>
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  • JovoraJovora Posts: 18Member ✭✭ - Stalwart
    If anything the history of the Occultists and Jesters is a move for Jesters to absolutely not be placed in Ashtan O.o
    ArillesXith
  • IocunIocun Posts: 3,506Member @@ - Legendary Achaean
    Tanris said:

    Because if anyone else got it the forums would constantly be spammed with people complaining how unfair it was.

    Also, Cyrene has the most badass monk guards.

    ArillesMelodie
  • TerraTerra Posts: 676Member ✭✭✭✭✭ - Grand Achaean

    Ashtan:

    Serpent, Occultist, Jester

    Hashan:

    Shaman

    Mhaldor:

    Apostate, Infernal

    Shallam:

    Magi, Priest, Paladin

    Eleusis:

    Druid, Sylvan, Sentinel

    Cyrene:

    Runewarden, Bard, Alchemist

    Hard to place: Blademaster, Monk. Also, sorry Hashan!

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