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Mhaldor stands alone. Continues to talk about standing alone.
After a point I think most of the other cities just accepted this flatly, and divert resources to plunder fragments when needed, and dispatch Mhaldorian's in the crusades as necessary.
Sure a few say that Mhaldor is indirectly aiding the Tsol'teth by going their own way, but for the most part the general populace is indifferent to Mhaldor's narrative in this.
At least that is what I've noticed so far. I wish things were different. It'd be nice if there was some sort of communication with Mhaldor. Full of snark, barbs, grudging tolerence, some outright intolerance etc, but still communication nonetheless.
I'm sure that's had no impact at all on galvanizing Synthus into wanting to learn combat and take the fight to the Tsol'teth, but man does the track "Journey" now carry a different meaning for me now.
Which is a valid RP choice on Mhaldor's part, to be clear. And hey, more enemies means more snipe kills for me.
The soul of Ashmond says, "Always with the sniping."
(Clan): Ictinus says, "Stop it Jiraishin, you're making me like you."
If Mhaldor tries a 'big play' or something, sure, I'm positive they'll get back on the event radar, but currently it's more of a 'lets just make sure mhaldor doesn't get fog so we don't get punished' at the moment. At least it feels that way to the average person, at least.
Edit: Here is the exact clip from the "Tsol'teth" that aptly describes Mhaldor in this event:
I mean you know things are bad when Tary comes and is like, please don't attack us while we attack Hashan.
Aegis, God of War says, "You are dismissed from My demense, Astarod. Go forth and fight well. Bleed fiercely, and climb the purpose you have sought to chase for."
I think the whole point Illoisee, and others, are trying to make is that from our end, the coalition basically equates us to be Hashan in terms of 'badness'. While that may not be technically correct, when you're raided for multiple hours because you're trying to get ahold of fragments to put up your barrier again (mind, sometimes we killed people for them and people do decide to make us pay for that, that's fine, but there's other times where we were just legit gathering them off mobs/areas), it sure doesn't feel like you're "inconsequential". This isn't the only example where we've raised our eyebrows and asked, "Why are they after us, exactly?", just the one I most easily had on hand.
Personally, I've found every portion except the fragments and the random dogpiling to be pretty fun. But I know different strokes different folks, so a not-so-fun-for-me part of an event while everything else is interesting is all right.
Edit: Changed quoting, was more talking to Jinos than whatever the hell Astarod is on about.
That love soon might end You are unbreaking
And be known in its aching Though quaking
Shown in this shaking Though crazy
Lately of my wasteland, baby That's just wasteland, baby
That is pretty much the chain of thought for everyone here, Mhaldor's definitely used the same chain of thought when we got attacked by the coalition for our fragments, and during our crusade against Tlalalalaaiaiad.
Again, I'll reiterate that these conversations are better meant to happen IG, and not get brought to the forums like they do every bloody time, for gods sake people. But I will say, you should probably refrain on commenting on things you don't know about. It's also generally a poor assumption for anyone to assume a world event is revolving around only their side.
Also, I'll take "Things Taryius would never say" for $800, Alex
That love soon might end You are unbreaking
And be known in its aching Though quaking
Shown in this shaking Though crazy
Lately of my wasteland, baby That's just wasteland, baby
Also, it makes me giggle that everyone thinks IC and OOC Mhaldor isn't doing anything to help.
I promise you guys that without Mhaldor clearing the Tide where we have been, Sapience would be in waaaaaay more danger than it is now. We also haven't had a single "oh shit the Tide is almost to us" moment yet.
So not being part of every mass "[Player] has been slain by the psychic whatsit of Trusad'an" deathsight doesn't bother me in the slightest. I just want more time to investigate.
Also @Astarod, @Jinos has never struck me as a butt, and he probably said exactly what he meant to say! But if we are "off the radar" that's a relief for me because it surely means there will be no more 4-hour guard bashing sessions.
Now, I'm not saying Mhaldor has to be punished, but I mean, lets not pretend that Mhaldor is ever a victim. It comes with the "We are Evil!" gig. As much as I see people disparaging Mhaldor for being, "Mhaldor", I see Mhaldor disparaging others for having the gall to try to work together against a realmwide enemy. For all the people who are far less skilled than what is necessary for this event, being in a group is all they have.
Just sayin'. If you can't really take it, then you really shouldn't be dishing it out. You certainly shouldn't be taking it personally as a player- and if I made that unclear, I'm sorry I made you feel demoralized.
Aegis, God of War says, "You are dismissed from My demense, Astarod. Go forth and fight well. Bleed fiercely, and climb the purpose you have sought to chase for."
The soul of Ashmond says, "Always with the sniping."
(Clan): Ictinus says, "Stop it Jiraishin, you're making me like you."
the eagles!
Aegis, God of War says, "You are dismissed from My demense, Astarod. Go forth and fight well. Bleed fiercely, and climb the purpose you have sought to chase for."
I'm ready for it to move forward, though. Announcing the games could be a couple of years late, due to this, means we could be looking at another real world month or so of Tide? Not to mention what sort of third world, burned out wreck is Cyrene getting back? I'm guessing in-game years of grinding out more gold and credits to rebuild it, and still not having what we lost. Very sincerely hoping it happens to every other city, so those who say 'just move to another city' get the same fun.
This is partly due to the multitasking on fighting the tide, and dropping the meld shrines among all the other things going on, that if Mhaldor is doing something for the continent other than being a target for certain objectives the rest of the population hasn't noticed. Mostly because everyone is distracted by other things.
I personally have a hard time keeping track of what's going on between helping the people of Cyrene adjust to the absence of the city, ensuring I don't waste my unwind, and assisting with fighting and rezzing when I can. Plus we're all looking into methods of trying to subvert the Tsol'teth maneuvers.
Mhaldor has valid RP reasons to go their own way. Even without their Divine saying so.
I'm sure as things progress we'll move past this stage of multitasking and speculation.
And yes, they'll be handled in game, because at the end of the day we love this crazy world more than we love distracting ourselves from our daily routines by trudging through the forums.
Zbaco said:
I spent 12~ hours fighting the tide back, but everyone went lets raid hashan daily, and in that, over a weeks worth of work just went up in smoke.
There are a few mechanics I'd love changed.
Tide shrines, when spawned, spawn in tide engulfed rooms. No more dealing with having to let tide seep to it.
Tide can no longer seep into digsites. This one is just courtesy.
The orb that forces the tide to not spread in an area. Please. Even if ours is only a fraction as powerful as the one Parni made. Plz let us make an area immune to tide for an hour or six. (Fragments being combined in an area creates the barrier? Idk.)
Thats all i have right now. I'm still burnt out, but i might come back from city of heroes if something changes to make dealing with the tide less soul sucking.
@Adrik- you've been awesome out there dropping shrines and it was great having you coordinating so much of it- I hope you come back to help play out where this story goes.
IC wise- Aside from there being a direct connection to resolving the current state of affairs, I think the constant tide and shrines is suppose to accomplish a few things:
1) Create an atmosphere of threat and reminder of the current state of affairs.
2) In a way, story/character progression wise, it -is- there to grind your characters resolve and make you question ICly "what the hell are we doing here- is this even what we should be focused on?"
3) Give some people a point to focus on that makes them feel like they're apart of the event. Some folks can't or have no interest in PvP, and aren't familiar with how to interact with denizens and admins to drive the overall plot forward- fighting tide and dropping shrines in places they care about is a way to defend against the Tsol'teth vs just read about other people adventures on the news boards.
Mechanically wise- I like that the tide spawns enemies that are 'manageable' and geared towards the individuals level. In line with point 3, some people and novices don't have the levels or learned skills (character abilities- not coding/combat knowledge) to partake in stuff like the crusades or direct conflict raids and Tsol'teth fights- gearing the tide creatures to the individual is a good way to include the level 20's all the way to 160 (or whatever record Penwize has currently set). Would be nice to have a way to hold it back for a little while from certain location- maybe there is.
In short- don't forget to take a break from tide duty, grab a drink (or don't), kick back and recover a little- and maybe scheme with someone ideas of what else to do
Not relevant to above, but just something I've been thinking about with this event and current discussions. It confuses me when a faction chooses to play the bad guy, but then also complains when they aren't able to participate in the event like normal. If you kneel before Sidious, why would you expect the Rebel alliance to still welcome you at their table, yanno? This got me thinking about the elemental plane events and when Mhaldor tried to corrupt the water orb. I think there were only 2-3 people I saw bitch about having repercussions for those actions, but the vast majority of Mhaldor accepted that they got to do a damn cool thing and paid a price for it. Kudos to those players.