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Ship Changes!
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If the prism change is such an issue, then perhaps it wasn't the best way to fix the issue.
I would suggest a 10 minute aggressive action timer ala class switching, no boarding if Infamous or bounty/contract.
Also, since everyone is so caught up on this abuse/not-abuse thing, there is something everyone should keep in mind. Nothing is abuse until it's actually abused. Luckily there haven't been many instances of abuse, but there have been some. (Bonko/Eari comes to mind, as does Dajio). If the game had 20 Dajio's running around, I can safely assume that lots more people would be calling it abuse. Just like was mentioned before, the administration thought Enfeeble/Absolve was fine, until it got abused and the outcry began. Thunderstorm most recently was in this same area, as it wasn't viewed as abuse until it was killing 12+ people in the spam on 3 seconds. Once it got used like that, it was considered abuse, and was attempted to be brought back in line accordingly.
There has been a trend of picking 1 sentence out of a post and latching onto that as if that was the only substance of the post. Sarapis did say it wasn't considered abused. However, he did not agree to the current usage, and admitted that changes would be coming in this field.
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As for the aggression timer, that has been mentioned on many occasions already with many of the pro-prismers completely ignoring it.
@Greys I can understand that to a certain extent. However, to get a bounty placed you have had to do something against the city in the first place. Actions have consequences. I think the bigger issue with that could be the fraudulent contracts, since there are far less restrictions on who can hire and why.
Penwize has cowardly forfeited the challenge to mortal combat issued by Atalkez.
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I understood reasoning for all of the first round of ship changes except for this one:
Was this being somehow abused? Not working as intended? Not sure what was wrong with instructing your crew to repair the ship before leaving. After all, it's an action performed by your denizen shipmates, not the player.
For me, it's just a convenience thing. Means I'll end up sitting around while I wait for the crew to work. Totally possible I'm missing something though. Hoping someone else knows why this change is being made? Or maybe it'll be more clear with the future changes.
This is why this is an issue. You're completely impervious to any retribution for your actions by boarding a ship.
Penwize has cowardly forfeited the challenge to mortal combat issued by Atalkez.
Why does somebody being inaccessible to you but able to talk on ooc clans or in tells make you so upset? Just pretend I am logged out when I am on my ship. I am completely untouchable when I am logged out but you don't want that changed.
Penwize has cowardly forfeited the challenge to mortal combat issued by Atalkez.
Edit @Atalkez
To be clear I would be fine with an aggressive action cool down for ships. Also the prism change was annoying on one level but exciting on another level for me so I am not overly opposed to that kind of change either. I just don't get the entitlement you're displaying here
Every post defending ships status quo so far, has been centred around a dressed-up way to afk. If you want to afk then you can journal, or write a letter...or just qq. Logging out and sitting on your ship are not at all the same thing.
I don't agree with any of these premises in the slightest, and have voiced as much. It's not that it makes me upset, it's just not believable for my character. If you backstab some Ashtani newb and pwn him, then run to your ship, I'm supposed to suddenly believe you've qq'd? That doesn't make sense to me.
Penwize has cowardly forfeited the challenge to mortal combat issued by Atalkez.
I've yet to see a single good reason why ships should be impenetrable, that hasn't been based on "but I want to afk".
Penwize has cowardly forfeited the challenge to mortal combat issued by Atalkez.
Letters/journals suck for that
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And you won't understand the cause of your grief...
...But you'll always follow the voices beneath.
But then lowbies get frustrated because their CWHO/HWHO is full of people who are logged in and unresponsive. Raiders get frustrated because their orgs are full of people who show up on the list, but never join in on or help oppose raids. Troublemakers get frustrated because when someone's on a ship, you can't rob them, eavesdrop on their meeting, secret a letter into their inventory, emote menacingly at them. Organiser-types get frustrated because all these people on ships aren't joining their festivals and ceremonies. HMs get frustrated because these people took undersec positions then turned into uninvolved dead weight. People aren't occupying the hangout locations any more, so casual socialisers/explorers/achievers lose the happenstance meetings or walk-bys that give you a positive impression because you saw someone you like and respect, however briefly. All of these people are, in small or large ways, vital to the overall health of the game.
You don't owe it to people to be their potential victims, but that's kind of how the game is set up, in its all-things-to-all-people way. When people start sequestering themselves away from the food web (ship afkers are obviously the herbivores in this metaphor), the ecosystem starts to falter.
It's unreasonable to say "the perfect safety of ships doesn't hurt anyone" unless you're willing to take a broad perspective and make a truly objective, holistic analysis.
And that's not even getting into people who exploit ships as strongholds by for example sitting on them with event items.
I personally am against prisming and was glad it was changed back. For all the finger pointing that people just use their ship to hide in or afk there are also people who use it to bolster their roles.
The cabin of my ship is Tahquil's home. It's a very personal space and I use it as an office and home. With prisming I wouldn't feel comfortable going into that room at all. If that room was on the mainland at least I could totem up and buy no prism room upgrade. Maybe if these two options were open to ships there would be less mouth frothing.
At least you responded more constructive and orderly..thanx
Makes me ever wonder what happened to what he said in this thread: http://forums.achaea.com/discussion/4016/an-epiphany-no-not-the-player