- 2016/05/04 10:55:18 - Screams of pain and terror are abruptly silenced as Katyania is absorbed into an umbral behemoth. - 2016/05/04 10:55:18 - Screams of pain and terror are abruptly silenced as Reshara is absorbed into an umbral behemoth. - 2016/05/04 10:55:18 - Screams of pain and terror are abruptly silenced as Utianima is absorbed into an umbral behemoth. - 2016/05/04 10:55:19 - Screams of pain and terror are abruptly silenced as Marisella is absorbed into an umbral behemoth. - 2016/05/04 10:55:23 - Screams of pain and terror are abruptly silenced as Katyania is absorbed into an umbral behemoth. - 2016/05/04 10:55:25 - Screams of pain and terror are abruptly silenced as Utianima is absorbed into an umbral behemoth. - 2016/05/04 10:55:33 - Screams of pain and terror are abruptly silenced as Jed is absorbed into an umbral behemoth. - 2016/05/04 10:55:46 - Screams of pain and terror are abruptly silenced as Sarathai is absorbed into an umbral behemoth. - 2016/05/04 10:55:55 - Screams of pain and terror are abruptly silenced as Sarathai is absorbed into an umbral behemoth. - 2016/05/04 10:55:57 - Screams of pain and terror are abruptly silenced as Colgano is absorbed into an umbral behemoth. - 2016/05/04 10:56:02 - Screams of pain and terror are abruptly silenced as Colgano is absorbed into an umbral behemoth. - 2016/05/04 10:56:26 - Screams of pain and terror are abruptly silenced as Sarathai is absorbed into an umbral behemoth. - 2016/05/04 11:08:11 - Screams of pain and terror are abruptly silenced as Utianima is absorbed into an umbral behemoth. - 2016/05/04 11:08:13 - Screams of pain and terror are abruptly silenced as Katyania is absorbed into an umbral behemoth.
I was going to bed.
As it turned out, I got everybody killed at least once, but it was fun! Thanks Eleusis, for taking the deaths like champions and being willing to go again to kill it, and we got the job done the second time around.
9163h|80%|10297m|96%|99%e 97%w| cdbk|e | behemoth 1% - Jed rips into an umbral behemoth with his massive, deadly claws. An umbral behemoth has been slain by Jed. A crystallised rock tumbles out of the corpse of an umbral behemoth. A mountainous pile of sovereigns spills from the corpse.
Good fun for an evening finish.
@Penwize it seems to respawn at the bottom of the lake, perhaps as a result of particular quests in the valley, or maybe just on a per-month basis. I'm not sure.
- (Eleusis): Ellodin says, "The Fissure of Echoes is Sarathai's happy place." - With sharp, crackling tones, Kyrra tells you, "The ladies must love you immensely." - (Eleusian Ranger Techs): Savira says, "Most of the hard stuff seem to have this built in code like: If adventurer_hitting_me = "Sarathai" then send("terminate and selfdestruct")." - Makarios says, "Serve well and perish." - Xaden says, "Xaden confirmed scrub 2017."
So, first of all I explored the new area which was lovely and then as I wander towards the lake I get absolutely stomped by that behemoth which was even lovelier. I return home to find that @Severina got a ton of lovely things from the bazaar I am in love with everything, and especially the fan
In all seriousness, what can I do about this? I was perfectly within my rights to hire for the second death after the bounty was completed:
Message #727 Sent by Achaea
5/04/1:15 Farrah has slain Troven for you! You have received 1500 gold sovereigns from your initial
downpayment.
3826h 2737m 93%e 99%w XX|EE M
(Market): Sneijder says, "Seeking spars and duels."
3826h 2737m 93%e 99%w XX|EE M
Message #728 Sent by Troven
5/04/1:17 So now I kill you twice hahaha stay in Mhaldor or die.
3826h 2737m 93%e 99%w XX|EE M
But somehow I know it's just going to end up on a PK loop with him coming after me everytime I leave the city, but I really don't want to issue unless I really have to.
If he kills you for a legal contract, just issue him. He's already gotten a bad track record, and the admin are very likely to take you seriously on it.
And I love too Be still, my indelible friend That love soon might end You are unbreaking And be known in its aching Though quaking Shown in this shaking Though crazy Lately of my wasteland, baby That's just wasteland, baby
So is HELP PK containing the actual canon info as of present day?
I am confused as to when things changed and what the actual rules are now other than "don't be an ass" which seems pretty easy to follow.
HELP PK is pretty current as far as I know, there'd be too many issues and confusion if it wasn't. Some people just don't like to follow the rules sometimes. Some still follow the old rules for whatever reason, but it wouldn't hold up for them in an issue if they take it too far. I still have seen instances where known PKers/combatants will take things from Annwyn/UW and seek redemption outside of treacherous planes, although the scrolls clearly state you cannot.
So is HELP PK containing the actual canon info as of present day?
I am confused as to when things changed and what the actual rules are now other than "don't be an ass" which seems pretty easy to follow.
I did notice this from HELP PK
6. "I attacked him because he attacked me, after I attacked him, after he attacked me!" Constantly seeking retribution in a repetitive and circular manner for the same incident is unacceptable. Pursue a rivalry with someone if you have an ongoing conflict (see HELP RIVALS).
Message #731 Sent by Troven 5/04/21:37 Actually on the contrary.... I killed you twice while the raid that Mhaldor had initiated was still active thus giving me full rights to slay you. Its just a coincidence I also had your bounty. I have further proof if you wish to see it. Thus your contract was illigel, as such you shall die again once you step from Mhaldor and I am about.
Ah, so that's it. Duelling in Thera before the sanction ended gives him reason to kill me? Not trolling, honest question
Message #731 Sent by Troven 5/04/21:37 Actually on the contrary.... I killed you twice while the raid that Mhaldor had initiated was still active thus giving me full rights to slay you. Its just a coincidence I also had your bounty. I have further proof if you wish to see it. Thus your contract was illigel, as such you shall die again once you step from Mhaldor and I am about.
Ah, so that's it. Duelling in Thera before the sanction ended gives him reason to kill me? Not trolling, honest question
Sounds like bullshit. You were dueling outside of the city so I don't see why city sanction has anything to do with it.
And you won't understand the cause of your grief...
Message #731 Sent by Troven 5/04/21:37 Actually on the contrary.... I killed you twice while the raid that Mhaldor had initiated was still active thus giving me full rights to slay you. Its just a coincidence I also had your bounty. I have further proof if you wish to see it. Thus your contract was illigel, as such you shall die again once you step from Mhaldor and I am about.
Ah, so that's it. Duelling in Thera before the sanction ended gives him reason to kill me? Not trolling, honest question
That gets a bit murky. Just because Mhaldor is raiding, does not automatically grant him the right to slay any uninvolved Mhaldorian. The only real question is: Were you involved in the raid? If not, then he's absolutely incorrect. If so, then that has more questions to it.
And I love too Be still, my indelible friend That love soon might end You are unbreaking And be known in its aching Though quaking Shown in this shaking Though crazy Lately of my wasteland, baby That's just wasteland, baby
I was, but the tank was disarmed and everyone was in back Mhaldor when he asked for the duel, I'm not even sure of the sanction was still active. Even if it was, seems like an excuse to me.
Message #731 Sent by Troven 5/04/21:37 Actually on the contrary.... I killed you twice while the raid that Mhaldor had initiated was still active thus giving me full rights to slay you. Its just a coincidence I also had your bounty. I have further proof if you wish to see it. Thus your contract was illigel, as such you shall die again once you step from Mhaldor and I am about.
Ah, so that's it. Duelling in Thera before the sanction ended gives him reason to kill me? Not trolling, honest question
Only if you were in the city at the time. If you're not participating in the defence and you're not within city limits, then you shouldn't be killed, I don't think. At least, that's how it was explained to me. Probably best to leave the issue in place and allow admins to clarify the decision.
Yeah, he's just PK lawyering at this point. Damn, I thought that art was well dead. Zamora joins Mhaldor and raids Eleusis. Raid ends, Mhaldor is back in the city. Troven picks up a bounty put out on Zamora, asks to duel, Zamora agrees. Troven kills him once, continues to try and kill him a second time despite Zamora refusing/saying the duel was over. Kills Zamora a second time. Zamora puts a contract on him for the second death. Contract succeeds, Troven says he's going to kill Zamora twice for the contract.
The raid has nothing to do with the fact he challenged you to a duel with a bounty, and he's just trying to make it seem excuseable, thus "PK lawyering". I stand by my original suggestion.
And I love too Be still, my indelible friend That love soon might end You are unbreaking And be known in its aching Though quaking Shown in this shaking Though crazy Lately of my wasteland, baby That's just wasteland, baby
serious note: talked to Troven OOC about it? I can't give good advice because he's been really nice to me so I'm biased, but that is all I can suggest.
Troven was enemied to Mhaldor not even for raiding or anything usual, but because he came into Mhaldor while I was distracted writing a performance for an event, and killed me three times. His reasoning was "Well, your citymates do it to me, so I guess this is revenge for that."
And that's just -my- experience. This is absolutely not surprising behavior from him.
And I love too Be still, my indelible friend That love soon might end You are unbreaking And be known in its aching Though quaking Shown in this shaking Though crazy Lately of my wasteland, baby That's just wasteland, baby
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I was going to bed.
As it turned out, I got everybody killed at least once, but it was fun! Thanks Eleusis, for taking the deaths like champions and being willing to go again to kill it, and we got the job done the second time around.
Good fun for an evening finish.
@Penwize it seems to respawn at the bottom of the lake, perhaps as a result of particular quests in the valley, or maybe just on a per-month basis. I'm not sure.
- With sharp, crackling tones, Kyrra tells you, "The ladies must love you immensely."
- (Eleusian Ranger Techs): Savira says, "Most of the hard stuff seem to have this built in code like: If adventurer_hitting_me = "Sarathai" then send("terminate and selfdestruct")."
- Makarios says, "Serve well and perish."
- Xaden says, "Xaden confirmed scrub 2017."
It died the next hit, thankfully or I would have followed after Katyania!
But somehow I know it's just going to end up on a PK loop with him coming after me everytime I leave the city, but I really don't want to issue unless I really have to.
Thoughts?
That love soon might end You are unbreaking
And be known in its aching Though quaking
Shown in this shaking Though crazy
Lately of my wasteland, baby That's just wasteland, baby
e: Also, what Melodie said.
Results of disembowel testing | Knight limb counter | GMCP AB files
I am confused as to when things changed and what the actual rules are now other than "don't be an ass" which seems pretty easy to follow.
Ah, so that's it. Duelling in Thera before the sanction ended gives him reason to kill me? Not trolling, honest question
And you won't understand the cause of your grief...
...But you'll always follow the voices beneath.
That love soon might end You are unbreaking
And be known in its aching Though quaking
Shown in this shaking Though crazy
Lately of my wasteland, baby That's just wasteland, baby
The raid has nothing to do with the fact he challenged you to a duel with a bounty, and he's just trying to make it seem excuseable, thus "PK lawyering". I stand by my original suggestion.
That love soon might end You are unbreaking
And be known in its aching Though quaking
Shown in this shaking Though crazy
Lately of my wasteland, baby That's just wasteland, baby
and I'm male, confusing I know :P
serious note: talked to Troven OOC about it? I can't give good advice because he's been really nice to me so I'm biased, but that is all I can suggest.
And that's just -my- experience. This is absolutely not surprising behavior from him.
That love soon might end You are unbreaking
And be known in its aching Though quaking
Shown in this shaking Though crazy
Lately of my wasteland, baby That's just wasteland, baby