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  • XadenXaden
    You have scored an ANNIHILATINGLY POWERFUL CRITICAL hit! (x845:1.76%)
    The former prison guard sways for a moment, his feet slowly detaching from the floor. With a final 
    groan, he falls to his knees and then collapses to the ground.
    You have slain a crazed prison guard, retrieving the corpse.

    Your soul cries out in ecstasy as it reaches new heights of power. You have advanced to level 105.
    You have reached the illustrious level of 1st Heir to Ashaxei's Legacy.

    ---------------------------------------

    Finally!!
         He is a coward who has to bring two friends as backup to jump people hunting.

  • QwynQwyn
    Xinna said:
    Melodie said:
    You know, I've been thinking about this situation and why it comes up and the differences and opinions, and an odd question dawned on me:

    If you believe combat should not ever be restricted (aka, some of your skills taken away), do you also believe roleplay shouldn't be restricted?

    I feel like we often punish various trespasses with the loss of roleplay opportunties, which includes being unable to speak with certain sections of the playerbase (i.e. "bad" Devotionists and enemy parties to use a more radical example), less trust in your own orgs, demotion from positions, and sometimes even outright restriction from speaking to certain individuals. These are just a few common examples, there's likely many more.

    So if these examples are acceptable - preventing fun interactions that a roleplayer would genuinely feel the loss of - why is the loss of combative abilities for a limited amount of time (often for less time than the roleplay ones would be) seen as "unacceptable" to the point you'd just qq and not play? 

    I'm not choosing a particular side at the moment, I'm mostly just musing on why we hold the view of combat above the view of roleplay. Is is just because it's a point of revenue? Or maybe there a sense of entitlement when it comes to game mechanics? Or perhaps roleplayers just learn to deal with the punishments handed down because that's what is expected?

    Or maybe, you feel they/the situation isn't the same thing at all?

    It's an interesting train of thought.
    Not sure I really understand the analogy. If someone made you incapable of engaging in any roleplay for 15 days, it would be equally poorly received, I think. But there's not really an equivalent. You can roleplay anytime. The criticism of TDF is that it makes combat impossible (by, for example, removing many classes' only means of killing someone). It's not something that just changes it. It's basically "no pk for 15 days."
    Late to the thread, but muting is essentially the RP equivalent.
  • QwynQwyn
    Oops sorry apprently there were like 3 more pages of posts. I blame my phone >_<
  • DortheronDortheron
    Trey said:
    Muting is typically not a punishment doled out to RPers, though. It's on obnoxious people who may not, in fact, be role-playing.
    From what I've seen and heard, most mutes are made on really bad trolls who aren't role-playing.

    Reminds me of a guide for mmo's I read before (paraphrased):

    Newbie: Someone new to the game who genuinely doesn't know and makes mistakes based off of ignorance. Once corrected they try to adhere to the rules the best they can. A delight to be had and can be quite cute.

    Noob: A massive troll who is constantly trying to cause trouble and shout obscenities/slurrs/etc. They might know what the rules are but spit at them and ignore all attempts to control or modify their behavior. Should be taken out back and put down like old yeller.
    You know, that one thing at that one place, with that one person.

    Yea, that one!
  • JonathinJonathin Retired in a hole.
    "Like old Yeller" is a bad analogy because I felt bad. I don't feel particularly bad when trolls get banned.
    I am retired and log into the forums maybe once every 2 months. It was a good 20 years, live your best lives, friends.
  • SobriquetSobriquet
    Jonathin said:
    Sir Tyamat Trismegistus, the Crux Shade has appointed you to the position of Minister of War.
    You are now leader of the army of Hashan.

    Oh lord. We're all going to die.

    Judging by your recent Hashan post, It looks like very few people will actually have the chance to die.

    (Party): Mezghar says, "Stop."
  • AegothAegoth
    Sobriquet said:
    Jonathin said:
    Sir Tyamat Trismegistus, the Crux Shade has appointed you to the position of Minister of War.
    You are now leader of the army of Hashan.

    Oh lord. We're all going to die.

    Judging by your recent Hashan post, It looks like very few people will actually have the chance to die.
    Judging from how he reacted when Saeva, myself, and 3 noobs raided against their sizeable force... well >.>
  • AegothAegoth
    Saeva, myself, a supernoob and 2 meganoobs
  • KietKiet
    I'll see you in the alley at 5 pm
  • KhairtKhairt
    Sounds exciting, I'm down


  • JonathinJonathin Retired in a hole.
    edited February 2016
    Aegoth said:
    Sobriquet said:
    Jonathin said:
    Sir Tyamat Trismegistus, the Crux Shade has appointed you to the position of Minister of War.
    You are now leader of the army of Hashan.

    Oh lord. We're all going to die.

    Judging by your recent Hashan post, It looks like very few people will actually have the chance to die.

    It's more than we had before and I had to argue my case for an hour to get that much. And that was before I was MoW and wasn't even expecting to take it over.
    Judging from how he reacted when Saeva, myself, and 3 noobs raided against their sizeable force... well >.>

    That's not particularly fair. I logged into the mess that someone else was leading already frustrated and cranky from work and all I yelled was for you guys to gtfo. There weren't any tears and I neither called you guys names nor implied anything about you, like you guys did. Soooo yeah


    I am retired and log into the forums maybe once every 2 months. It was a good 20 years, live your best lives, friends.
  • AegothAegoth
    I'm just being a jerk. I know you'll try next time <3
  • ExelethrilExelethril
    Kiet said:
    stop calling me a noob
    honours Kiet

    Abaddon's Whisper, Kiet Bayt al-Azhan (male Mhun).
    He is 361 years old, having been born on the 22nd of Sarapin, 345 years after the fall of the 
    Seleucarian Empire.
    He is ranked 381st in Achaea.
    He is one of the Infamous forum posters.
    He is the no.1 ranked forum combatant
    He is part of the Mhaldorian Forum Brigade.
    His motto: 'Never done good things, never done bad things anything but snipe, don't call me noob.'
    See HONOURS DEEDS KIET to view his 50 special forum honours.

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  • SobriquetSobriquet
    Xinna said:
    @Aegoth is -always- a jerk. :D

    Goooooo Hashan!

    I would love to, but we only have 3 people allowed to lead Raids. 2 of them are almost never on the same time as me and the other is almost universally AFK





    (Party): Mezghar says, "Stop."
  • KafzielKafziel
    Kiet said:
    I'll see you in the alley at 5 pm
    .
  • JonathinJonathin Retired in a hole.
    edited February 2016
    Aegoth said:
    Shouldn't need to be "allowed" to lead raids. Just lead, see who comes, have a good time, learn from it. If you want to raid, red tape should not be the thing preventing that from happening
    Explain that to the people in charge of Hashan. I'm doing my best to mitigate it by making sure that there is always someone around to do it, but we have red tape.
    I am retired and log into the forums maybe once every 2 months. It was a good 20 years, live your best lives, friends.
  • KasaKasa
    Cynlael said:
    Seragorn's outfit still better:

    look seragorn
    He is a frog-like grook and --

    He is wearing:
       Robes of the Magi, -blah-, a pink flannel pajama shirt with white bunnies, pink flannel pajama trousers with white bunnies, an adorable pair of fuzzy bunny slippers, Gauntlets of the Aldar, a Hood of the Sphinx, a mask of lifevision, an Aldar Diadem, a Collar of Agatheis, and a portrait locket of Pandora.

    The Nemesian Imperator, everybody.

    LET US ROLL THE HECK BACK HERE GUYS. 

    SERAGORN YOU STOLE MY GIG D:
  • KayeilKayeil Washington State
    Kasa said:
    Cynlael said:
    Seragorn's outfit still better:

    look seragorn
    He is a frog-like grook and --

    He is wearing:
       Robes of the Magi, -blah-, a pink flannel pajama shirt with white bunnies, pink flannel pajama trousers with white bunnies, an adorable pair of fuzzy bunny slippers, Gauntlets of the Aldar, a Hood of the Sphinx, a mask of lifevision, an Aldar Diadem, a Collar of Agatheis, and a portrait locket of Pandora.

    The Nemesian Imperator, everybody.

    LET US ROLL THE HECK BACK HERE GUYS. 

    SERAGORN YOU STOLE MY GIG D:
    I've been dressing him like that for years, heh. He has a wooden rabbit amulet to go with it, too. Eventually I may craft him a custom bunny outfit, though. The best part is his text-wife has an adorable bunny for a pet, but she hates bunnies.
    What doesn't kill you gives you exp.

  • KasaKasa
    o: wowza. Seragorn we have the same gig!
  • AodfionnAodfionn Seattle, WA
    *chanting* Coup d'etat! Coup d'etat!
    Aurora says, "Are you drunk, Aodfionn?"
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