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One of the symptoms of an approaching nervous breakdown is the belief that one's work is terribly important
Ye gods, I know your pain. Every time it looks like it could dip back to below R10 a dollar it just goes "PSYCHE!" and falls even further past R11. And when it was around R6 I was a broke university student.
Occultist - Mizik
Paladin -
Monk - Jhui
Serpent - Santar
Apostate -
Blademaster -
Jester -
Bard - Xinna
Magi - Hasar
Alchemist -
Druid -
Runewarden -
Shaman -
Sylvan -
Infernal -Penwize has cowardly forfeited the challenge to mortal combat issued by Atalkez.
Occultist - Mizik
Paladin -
Monk - Jhui
Serpent - Santar
Apostate -
Blademaster - Tirac
Jester -
Bard - Xinna
Magi - Hasar
Alchemist -
Druid -
Runewarden - Nemutaur? Not sure if 1v1s now.
Shaman -
Sylvan -
Infernal -Current best:
Occultist - Mizik
Paladin - Do they exist at the minute? Caladbolg or Antonius.
Monk - Jhui
Serpent - Santar
Apostate - Ayoxele
Blademaster - Tirac
Jester - N/A. All shackle whores.
Bard - Xinna
Magi - Hasar
Alchemist - Cadarus
Druid - N/A
Runewarden - Nemutaur
Shaman - N/A
Sylvan - Twil
Infernal - Wessux? Not sure of any others since Vicious stopped logging in.
Occultist - Mizik defaults this, but is worthy of the spot as well.
Paladin - None worthy of recognition.
Monk - Jhui.
Serp - Me obviously, but second best is currently probably Eloru or Isaiah, both mid-tierish.
Apostate - Ezily Ayoxele. He's not top tier, but would be if he had more to work with.
Blademaster - Tirac
Jester - None worth mentioning.
Bard - Xinna and Dunn are about even. Just a massive cheese-stick class in general though.
Magi - There aren't many Magi worth mentioning that actually do much 1v1. I can't give this to anyone in good conscience.
Alchemist - Cadarus pretty much defaults this. Only alc worth anything.
Druid - None worth mentioning.
Runewarden - None worth mentioning.
Shaman - None worth mentioning.
Sylvan - Probably Twil. A lot of people might say Lothiac, but Twil is better imo.
Infernal - I don't really respect anyone that plays this class. Really OP/cheesy class that nobody decent is playing right now. A few scrubs do ok with this class due to the raw power it has though.
Edit:
Priest - Ruca(though, pretty bad still)
Sentinel - People classhop this so much I don't even know. I don't think there's anyone decent playing Sent right now.
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I only include people that are actual PKers on my list. No bogus arena fighters or people that fight once in a blue moon. You have to fight people if you want to be mentioned in a 'best of class' list.
If we're only including pkers, does Santar actually fight people?
All I ever see is backstab/snipe, phase, run away.
My rankings would be purely based on creativity, originality, and adaptibility against opponents who actually know what they're doing.
Sure, a popular BM might kill Jhui ten times in a row, but if Jhui (hypothetically) doesn't know how to avoid a simple void/para/impaleslash gimmick, and dies to it every time, it doesn't make the BM amazing, no matter how good Jhui is at literally everything else.
Another point is, as was pointed out in the last "who's da best" thread, true combat skill really comes down to your ability to know every other class, not really your own.
So, setting that aside (since I think this thread is really only supposed to be focused on who's good at offense), here's an impromptu list. I wouldn't submit this to guinness, and I'm sure I'm leaving people out, but here goes. Please keep in mind that my judgement is primarily based on originality and adaptability, not ability to class swap to broken classes and abuse things other people developed.
(good) Occultist - @Jaizsur / @Poergh Super oldschool: @Manu (first artied dragon-occultist with area-wide warp, etc. JFC)
(new) Occultist - not a particularly skill-based class
Paladin - @Caladbolg, who is the only person who consistently pulls off affliction-based kills (Damnation, rift-locks, etc).
*Monk - @Proficy. If Proficy and @Jhui faced off with equal arties, Proficy would wipe the floor with Jhui 10 times out of 10. Sry brah.
*Serp (could talk about this all day, since I've been in all four serp houses in the last 10-ish years) When it comes down to originality and true talent, particularly early in the game, I tip my hat to @Jarrel, @Aista, @Ulrike, @Hieyoko (not necessarily for affliction combat), anyone using my tracker
Apostate - @Malifuus. Currently, @Xer. @Ayoxele will be good if he learns more about other classes. Apostate offense isn't difficult (anymore). Sorry.
*Blademaster - Caladbolg, for doing things before anyone else. @Atalkez for balacing a decent offense with great survivability. Myself, for being the only BM that I've ever heard of that doesn't (literally, ever) use Brokenstar. Venom lock, or go home.
Jester - not a combat class. Best at griefing with Jester: Jarrel, @Manu, @Bonko
*Bard - @Cooper, for getting bard nerfed so hard nobody played it for 5 years. Lilian, for inventing/discovering all of the gimmicks that Xinna gets credit for.
*Magi - @Cain magi'd pretty damn hard. You can blame arties, but that's what magi is all about. @Lothiac was, by far, the most creative and adaptive magi combatant I've ever seen. Try inventing a new idea for magi. Seriously, I dare you. Well, he did - and a lot. Doesn't/Didn't even have arties. Honorable mention for @Osek, who also relied massively on huge artie stacks (prior to dim. returns) and also came up with a few new ideas. (was perhaps the first to use ret/amnesia pet?)
Alchemist - Not going to give this to anyone purely for being the only active alchemist. Nobody has excelled as alchemist yet, because I don't think it's really that possible to do so, yet (the class is good, but still needs some adjustments)
Druid - not a PK class, so n/a. Best at Druid RP, you ask? I have no idea.
Sentinel - @Santar
Runewarden - Shallam/Targossas has always had the best runies, for some reason. The class isn't really one of creativity, so defensive/survival skill and ability to anticipate your opponent is really where you shine. I think @Atalkez is the best at this, in the recent months/year.
Shaman - @Mindshell was the original Shaman fighter. @Dumah was OK too, and @Spire came later (I actually made a pretty fierce shaman as well, but didn't stick with it long enough to throw myself in this ranking)
*Sylvan - Twil and Lothiac are very near each other. However, Lothiac coined almost all of the now staple strategies, and was also a damn good fighter as a sylvan before heartseed was released.
*Infernal - Anyone who can't survive literally anything, and kill literally anyone as an Infernal is pretty bad at combat. "I don't really respect anyone that plays this class. Really OP/cheesy class that nobody decent is playing right now. A few scrubs do ok with this class due to the raw power it has though." - @Santar
* I asterisked a few classes that I think are particularly prone to class hoppers who recognize a classes amazing potential, and switch to it and use strategies that are essentially cookie-cutter kill setups that were designed by other people. (Ex: Minuet lock, "guaranteed" (against almost everyone) frenzy/Vivisect, 38% damage 1.5 second kai chokes, cheese-dick brokenstar setups, and so on)
Also many fallacies such as Lilian inventing a Bard salve-lock, Ayoxele not having a well-rounded knowledge on all class and Occultist not being skill based...
Xer also not Apostate anymore
Yet, you're attempting to "call me out" because I attempted to jump you one time and then left when you didn't die? Lol, ok.
Think you're taking things a little too seriously, and I'm not going to engage in any pointless pissing contests.
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@Ernam If you are writing a "best combatants" list that names yourself multiple times, when not a single other person even mentions you, you're probably doing something wrong.
'Apostate offense isn't difficult'. You really don't know your classes, mate. Bladesuicide out of this thread like how you did when you got locked in our last duel, please.
Party right, party hard,
Sing and dance, perfect bard.
Prefarar loop, accentato whore,Buy a new rapier, get nerfed some more.
His post is at least partially true. I haven't managed to kill him yet, because he either runs away or flagons on truelock (and heartstops) every single fight.
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Definitely should have mentioned @Jhui purely for pure non-class-based combat skill, and innovations for monk - but I think everyone elses lists generated enough e-boners as it is.
As for the rest, like I said, I'm sure I left some people out. Just listing people who I think (and in most cases, know) did pretty damn well as that class, during the time that I was around to see it. One thing that I will never be impressed by is someone who class hops / alts to make a character and just spams a single thing over and over again (*cough* perma-stun axes).