@Strata : You jumped me with Cathy, I leave the UW because I don't have my full combat defenses up. I can't dragonsense you because of your veil so I re-engage Cathy while she's alone instead. I kill her, followed by you re-engaging me. We fight for some time then Cathy returns to help you, where I kill her again with you there. By this time, most of my willpower has been drained so I leave. If it were a duel, I would have stayed - however, it wasn't.
With a level 2 sip ring, level 1 regen ring, SoA, level 2 bracelet, level 2 (I think it's level 2...) con I can't tank DKs without using moss in Dform.
Of course they shouldn't be bstabbing delph, it should be double prefarar, and they should time it so the second backstab hits before the stun from the first wears off so it does more damage, and then both snipe curare. That'll be about 6k damage in 3 seconds you weren't expecting, plus additional snipes since most Dragons aren't sitting with their hands on the keyboard waiting for an attack to happen so it takes a few seconds to respond and stop your gut on balance trigger. So it could be up to 8.6k damage from the bstab/double snipe/double snipe again on your one sip/moss balance without any DK damage.
Plus if they were smart they'd wait for you to be on the uber dk anyway.
On a side note, I get that UW/Annwyn are open pk (not free PK @Strata btw). You're gonna be attacked down there from time to time. But repeatedly attacking people with groups of people just to cause them misery isn't really fun for either party, so I don't understand why it's done so much. When I've tried to talk to some of the people that do it a lot, they're like 'It's open pk I don't care', which is technically accurate. But you should at least have some sort of RP reason to back it, even if it's as small as 'you're an enemy of my city', and don't abuse the open pk by trying to gank people over and over and over and just bringing more people when you fail.
But you should at least have some sort of RP reason to back it, even if it's as small as 'you're an enemy of my city', and don't abuse the open pk by trying to gank people over and over and over and just bringing more people when you fail.
This, so much. If you can't do it by yourself, seriously, don't just keep bringing more people in. Either you can, or you can't. If you can't, just give it up! Specially if it's a flimsy ass excuse like infamy, mark, or open pk area.
Having fun and attacking people in the open PK areas is fine, really. Those areas are meant to be dangerous. Your gank with Strata on me was his 4th attempt at backstabbing me in the last 2 days, and the second time he brought another person with him because he knew he couldn't do it alone. When I brought up to Strata that he'd already tried that multiple times on me and it hadn't worked, he couldn't even remember that he had done it before to me, which shows that there's absolutely no thought behind what he's doing other than 'Hey let's try to kill person X to piss them off', which isn't how it should be.
Like with Jinsun and Santar, there's no talk before or after, no rp behind it, nothing other than going down to the UW with his veil and gem and trying to make whoever he sees die.
I make a point to only jump solo unless a team gank is warranted for extenuating circumstances, and even then I usually go for the solo jump.
I feel like you need less rationale for jumping someone solo than teaming them, and even less rationale for solo jumping someone when they have a group or are in their city. So if I had a minor reason to kill you, I'll probably attack you in some way that doesn't seem too unfair.
Exelethril left when jumped by two people. Then rather than staying away, he goes back to fight those who attacked him and manages to kill one of them twice. How is he not able to bash UW in this case? Seem to me he's doing fine.
If it was about causing misery, we'd have just brought a vamp to you. All this stuff is about having fun (for me at the very least), sharing in experiences with @Strata (Cathy's fiance), practicing various arts of serpentry (because I'm very much still learning about them all!) etc. etc.
Just because some people do it to make people rage, doesn't mean that is the only reason it happens.
(edit to add: I misread a bit of your point, so you can ignore this, but it's still relevant, since I'm not just going OMGKILLDISAPPEAROMGNOCONSEQUENCES)
As to no contact afterwards - I have contacted almost everyone I fight, and I have definitely not ignored any contact from people.
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We talked a little on the clouds, @Cooper. Where you asked why, and I tried to explain my viewpoint on things. Then you said when you get back into fighting, I should probably watch my back. Followed by you promptly returning to Targossas (why? Because you thought I would just start attacking you for "threatening" me?)
The next day (and this is unrelated but somewhat relevant), I went down to the humgii track and small talked with Platonus while he watched the race, followed by me saying "And you're Infamous!" - at which point he shrugged at me, Duanathar'd right the hell back to Targ and QQ'd shortly thereafter. Would it have been more appropriate to just solo-gank him and if he asked why just respond with "LOL INFAMOUS LOL"? Or are more legit reasons such as, is a city enemy, is infamous, killed one of my pets, ignored for the sake of forum drama? :P
Is there some unspoken code of conduct I missed? Am I supposed to bring some cigars and cupcakes and say "Hey [insert infamous/mark/enemy person], would you like to commence epic battle?" for it to be considered acceptable in a realm where (nowadays) many people have mass travel and/or veils?
I understand the consequences of hunting in an open PK area and I expect to get teamed, for the most part(re: Dunn and Nemutaur's gank in Annwyn yesterday) and I'm fine with dying under unfair circumstances. I just don't think Strata's initial post that started all this was warranted in the first place.
Novices in the house always crack me up. I them so much!
(Tyro): Farexus says, "Why does food bear the mark of it's maker?" --blah blah, we answer- (Tyro): Lucerna says, "Bragging rights." (Tyro): Lucerna says, "I imagine every chef has a little iron brand that they mark their chickens and bread with when they're done cooking it." (Tyro): Lucerna says, "'This goose is cooked to perfection. Time to burn it.'"
@Strata - I don't know where you get the returning to Targossas bit from. I've stepped foot in Targossas I think 5 times in the last two weeks. Once to try to radiance Cathy, once to give Santar some corpses, and a few times to shop. After we talked on clouds I went to Annwyn and then continued my DK/Unsidhe/Sidhe/Kelpie/sleep loop.
Not gonna discuss more than that on the forums, but I think you realize what you said here isn't the most accurate representation of how things went.
@Cathy - Most of the vampires would be easier to get away from than double backstab/double snipe. And the ones that aren't you're going to die to before you get them to me anyway. :P
Well, since it's come out on rants already, here's my main cheer-up for the day that I was given in the sea of an otherwise pretty terrible day.
You read what is written on an elegant white letter: Dear Melodie,
<Redacted> just told me that you were ex-communicated again. It makes me want to do stuff! But I won't write what.
If you ever want to talk, or just sit and gaze at the sea for a bit, I'm here. Just know that I will always think of you as a mother figure, even if things go awry. I love you.
A stick figure person has been drawn in the foreground, with long lines sprouting from the head representing hair. Two circles have been drawn on the figure's chest. A smiley face has been drawn on the stick figure's head. A giant arrow points towards the stick figure, labelling it with the words "Melodie". She appears to be holding an oversize lollipop in one hand. An arrow points to this to label it with "Smiting Mace". To her left, a stick figure is lying on its side, with the words "Smited Hirst" above it. To her right, a stick figure with a squiggly line coming out of the posterior region lays on its side with "Smited Hasar" written above in red. To the far right, what looks like an upright banana has a squiggly line cutting through it, and a tiny stick figure with long hair and chest circles appears to be standing sideways on it, just above the squiggly line. The arrow pointing to this part of the scene says "Smited Taraus".
And I love too Be still, my indelible friend That love soon might end You are unbreaking And be known in its aching Though quaking Shown in this shaking Though crazy Lately of my wasteland, baby That's just wasteland, baby
Oh it is so cute when idiots try to use "You are supposed to be honourable" to take advantage.
My honour is in how I conduct myself when initiating aggression against you, such a challenging you formally or fighting on fair terms when challenged. If you are a dick who jumps me and taunts me or shows the incredibly special lack of mental worth to cry on the forums because I do not allow you to abuse my honour to get the upper hand, you lose that privilege.
Honour is only shown to those who are worthy of it. If you expect a Knight to fight honourably, you have to do the same.
Not even to mention that not everyone needs to play a perfect example of his character's class archetype. A knight should probably strive to be honourable, but that doesn't mean that a knight character won't have personal flaws and can't fall short of exemplifying honourable behaviour at times.
With that, I don't mean special-snowflaking it and deliberately playing a super thuggish and sly knight, but simply to play an imperfect person.
It is of course perfectly justified to bring up such a perceived lack of honour in-game and to criticize the knight for it in character, but that doesn't mean he needs to be called out for his behaviour OOC, unless he really doesn't RP at all.
To her right, a stick figure with a squiggly line coming out of the posterior region lays on its side with "Smited Hasar" written above in red. .--. .-'. .--. .--. .--. .--. .`-. .--.
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Move on people. I thought I was about to read 2 new pages of funny quotes, not e-peen fighting.
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I have failed you for the last time, @Jhui. I offer you my life.
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(Tyro): Farexus says, "Why does food bear the mark of it's maker?"
--blah blah, we answer-
(Tyro): Lucerna says, "Bragging rights."
(Tyro): Lucerna says, "I imagine every chef has a little iron brand that they
mark their chickens and bread with when they're done cooking it."
(Tyro): Lucerna says, "'This goose is cooked to perfection. Time to burn it.'"
I agreed with @Tesha.
Look what you've done. Look what you made me do.
You read what is written on an elegant white letter:
Dear Melodie,
<Redacted> just told me that you were ex-communicated again. It makes me want to do stuff! But I won't write what.
If you ever want to talk, or just sit and gaze at the sea for a bit, I'm here. Just know that I will always think of you as a mother figure, even if things go awry. I love you.
<Redacted>
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' `--' `.-' `--' `--' `--' `-.' `--' `
A stick figure person has been drawn in the foreground, with long lines sprouting from the head representing hair. Two circles have been drawn on the figure's chest. A smiley face has been drawn on the stick figure's head. A giant arrow points towards the stick figure, labelling it with the words "Melodie". She appears to be holding an oversize lollipop in one hand. An arrow points to this to label it with "Smiting Mace". To her left, a stick figure is lying on its side, with the words "Smited Hirst" above it. To her right, a stick figure with a squiggly line coming out of the posterior region lays on its side with "Smited Hasar" written above in red. To the far right, what looks like an upright banana has a squiggly line cutting through it, and a tiny stick figure with long hair and chest circles appears to be standing sideways on it, just above the squiggly line. The arrow pointing to this part of the scene says "Smited Taraus".
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' `--' `.-' `--' `--' `--' `-.' `--' `
That love soon might end You are unbreaking
And be known in its aching Though quaking
Shown in this shaking Though crazy
Lately of my wasteland, baby That's just wasteland, baby
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