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ZedsdeadZedsdead Member Posts: 8
Can anyone suggest a class that scales well when artied out, is good at 1v1 and is good at killing ppl that run away?
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  • ZedsdeadZedsdead Member Posts: 8
    Also not interested in monk
  • DaeirDaeir AustraliaMember Posts: 6,288 @@ - Legendary Achaean
    Posting this in the Matsuhama Arena forum probably would have been your best bet, honestly.

    I've heard the various Knight classes are exceptionally good at 1v1 and every single one of them has a few methods of hindering people that try to run away. They also scale rather well with artefacts too.
  • JovoloJovolo EnglandMember Posts: 3,249 @@ - Legendary Achaean
    edited June 2013
    Occultist

    Also blademaster but why do that
    Sylvance
  • TeshaTesha Member Posts: 2,938 @@ - Legendary Achaean
    edited June 2013
    oops, you do not want monk! Um. You can try occultist, that is pretty good at 1v1, tentacles are great for chasing, star/warp is good damage. And if you start losing you can pit.

     i'm a rebel

    SherazadJespar
  • DaeirDaeir AustraliaMember Posts: 6,288 @@ - Legendary Achaean
    edited June 2013
    Occultists suck butt to bash, though. Their bashing is seven levels of awful made bearable by Tarot only. At least in my experience. Warp is god awful and is only redeemed by the sheer quantity of utility the class has in just about everything else.
  • ZedsdeadZedsdead Member Posts: 8
    Are occies one of the classes that scale well with arties? Is there a lot of room for innovation with them (finding creative ways to kill ppl)
  • MizikMizik Member Posts: 2,128 @@ - Legendary Achaean
    edited June 2013
    Zedsdead said:
    Hello. Where is Monk?
    Occultist
    Magi
    Alchemist, surprisingly, fits your criteria
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  • MizikMizik Member Posts: 2,128 @@ - Legendary Achaean
    I kind of want to try Alchemist now. That homunculus is like super mega fly stopping tents.

    Order humunculus go e;throw concussionbomb e

    mind blown
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  • JovoloJovolo EnglandMember Posts: 3,249 @@ - Legendary Achaean
    Zedsdead said:
    Are occies one of the classes that scale well with arties? Is there a lot of room for innovation with them (finding creative ways to kill ppl)
    Yeah. Almost all their damage is magical and/or int. The former you can increase by 20% and the latter you can get +3 intelligent artifacts. A lot of their damage is also passive, and you can use your own balance to hinder and damage. Tentacles have a 1/3 chance (roughly?) to prevent movement out of the room. If a person is standing outside, even in their own city, you can basically kill them no matter what due to star tarot + area warp (Both scaling with artifacts) by going to a room without guards.
  • ZedsdeadZedsdead Member Posts: 8
    Is occie bashing horrible even with arties?
  • JovoloJovolo EnglandMember Posts: 3,249 @@ - Legendary Achaean
    It's not horrible (especially not with arties)
  • EchaldEchald Member Posts: 281 ✭✭✭✭ - Eminent
    Nothing is horrible with enough arties.
    DaslinJespar
  • SultaniSultani Member Posts: 185 ✭✭✭ - Distinguished
    Isn't warp actually pretty powerful? Maybe not compared to Monk stuff but I think the damage is pretty decent. Occultist recieves great benefit from the Collar as it effects quite a few of their abilities.
  • ZedsdeadZedsdead Member Posts: 8
    Does BM not fit my criteria? Aren't they good at 1v1 and hamstring for runners?
  • SidoniaSidonia Member Posts: 408 ✭✭✭✭ - Eminent
    Mizik said:
    I kind of want to try Alchemist now. That homunculus is like super mega fly stopping tents.

    Order humunculus go e;throw concussionbomb e

    mind blown
    If you're talking about torso (movement blocking), it's supposed to only work when alchemist is in the room with it. Dunno how it works in actuality.
  • EldEld Member Posts: 3,946 @@ - Legendary Achaean
    Zedsdead said:
    Does BM not fit my criteria? Aren't they good at 1v1 and hamstring for runners?
    Blademaster is strong 1v1, and yes, hamstring is good for preventing people running. As for arties, I guess it depends on what you mean by "scales well". Bands are great, but there aren't many other artefacts that make any bigger difference for blademasters than they do for any other class. So the difference between no artefacts and lots of artefacts is smaller for blademaster than for a lot of classes.
    Sylvance
  • SylvanceSylvance Member Posts: 1,477 ✭✭✭✭✭ - Grand Achaean
    Eld said:
    Zedsdead said:
    Does BM not fit my criteria? Aren't they good at 1v1 and hamstring for runners?
    Blademaster is strong 1v1, and yes, hamstring is good for preventing people running. As for arties, I guess it depends on what you mean by "scales well". Bands are great, but there aren't many other artefacts that make any bigger difference for blademasters than they do for any other class. So the difference between no artefacts and lots of artefacts is smaller for blademaster than for a lot of classes.
    That said, the difference between, say, an unbanded and a lv3 banded BM is pretty sick, though he's still gotta know what he's doing.
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  • BluefBluef DelosMember Posts: 2,176 @@ - Legendary Achaean
    Zedsdead said:
    Can anyone suggest a class that scales well when artied out, is good at 1v1 and is good at killing ppl that run away?
    Shaman.  :)
    Alaric
  • SantarSantar Member Posts: 2,382 @@ - Legendary Achaean
    Zedsdead said:
    Is occie bashing horrible even with arties?
    Occie bashing is one of the fastest in the game, especially when artied.

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    Cesarina
  • NaisarNaisar Member Posts: 255 ✭✭✭✭ - Eminent
    We really need someone to sit down and crunch the bashing numbers on each class.  Speed / tankiness / artie scaling.  Actually now I think of it this forum could really use a FAQ.
  • MishgulMishgul ROTHERHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAMMember Posts: 5,372 @@ - Legendary Achaean
    yeah sena, the forums could really use an FAQ

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  • EldEld Member Posts: 3,946 @@ - Legendary Achaean
    Naisar said:
    We really need someone to sit down and crunch the bashing numbers on each class.  Speed / tankiness / artie scaling.  Actually now I think of it this forum could really use a FAQ.
    If you just want DPS with base stats (12 str/int depending on class) and average weapon stats, that shouldn't be too hard. Artie scaling a little trickier, but probably not too bad if, again, you just want to know how much faster you can bash with whatever arties will benifit you. Don't know how you would quantify tankiness, though, as there are so many potential contributions to it.
  • MizikMizik Member Posts: 2,128 @@ - Legendary Achaean
    Santar said:


    Zedsdead said:

    Is occie bashing horrible even with arties?

    Occie bashing is one of the fastest in the game, especially when artied.

    Lolno

    Assuming unartied, otherwise Serpent/Jester bump up over Occie. Priest is balls no matter what, and Decay is a joke, comparatively.

    Only taking tanking into consideration with comparable abilities (Staffcast, Warp, Iron), but reflections > improved crits.

    Monk
    Bard
    Blademaster
    Runewarden
    Infernal
    Paladin
    Shaman
    Sentinel
    Druid
    Sylvan
    Magi
    Alchemist
    Occultist
    Priest
    Serpent
    Jester
    Apostate

    Occultist one of the worst. Then factor in tanking etc
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  • KyrraKyrra AustraliaMember Posts: 4,872 @@ - Legendary Achaean
    Sylvan bashing is sooo slow. I don't really want to fork out credits for aldar wassits just to speed up equilibrium a bit.

    I'd honestly put garotte above thornrend, but I'd be garotting with a level 3 lash and that's like dsling with SPs. Thornrend just sucks :(
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  • MizikMizik Member Posts: 2,128 @@ - Legendary Achaean
    Thornrend is very fast eq.
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  • JamethielJamethiel AdelaideMember Posts: 131 ✭✭✭ - Distinguished
    Occultist / Dragon - hunt as dragon. Kill in both depending on your mood :)
  • DunnDunn Member, Secret Squirrel Posts: 6,245 @@ - Legendary Achaean
    But bash to dragon in like... Monk. You could always just go Occie and raid to dragon. That's what I did and it was good fun.


  • MelodieMelodie Port Saint Lucie, FloridaMember Posts: 5,102 @@ - Legendary Achaean
    edited July 2013
    Psssh. That's cheating, Dunn. Lrn2priest. Uphill both ways. In the snow.

    And excommunicated from 92-100.
    Jespar
  • SantarSantar Member Posts: 2,382 @@ - Legendary Achaean
    edited July 2013
    Nvm.

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  • DunnDunn Member, Secret Squirrel Posts: 6,245 @@ - Legendary Achaean
    I was truedisfavoured for a week when I got dragon. (Thanks, Tanris)


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