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SOA or MINISKILLS

NosracNosrac Member Posts: 2

SOA or MINISKILLS

In order to become more proficient in 1vs1 combat

would SOA or Trans (Constitution/Thermology/Frost/Antidotes/ and Galvanism)

have more noticeable benefits in combat.

I understand SOA uses blunt/cutting and the MINISKILLS use magic based

defenses but I would still like informative input

Thanks!

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  • JonathinJonathin Grand Rapids, MIMember Posts: 3,323 @@ - Legendary Achaean
    I thought you were @Silas.

    Anyways, SoA adds cutting/blunt, but also has a chance to negate all damage from an attack.

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  • SenaSena Member Posts: 3,957 @@ - Legendary Achaean
    edited April 2013
    Except for finishers that can't be blocked by SoA, SoA is better than miniskills on average (15% reduction, on top of the 20/20 armour). Miniskills will be more predictable and reliable, though, reducing damage on every attack rather than a 15% chance of blocking all the damage.

    I'd say SoA is better, but it is somewhat of a gamble. The SoA might not activate at all when you need it to.

    SoA is also cheaper, when you consider that covering every damage type requires 7 miniskills plus avoidance.
  • EldEld Member Posts: 3,946 @@ - Legendary Achaean
    edited April 2013
    Nosrac said:

    SOA or MINISKILLS

    In order to become more proficient in 1vs1 combat

    would SOA or Trans (Constitution/Thermology/Frost/Antidotes/ and Galvanism)

    have more noticeable benefits in combat.

    I understand SOA uses blunt/cutting and the MINISKILLS use magic based

    defenses but I would still like informative input

    Thanks!

    SOA acts as 20/20 armor and also has a chance (15% I think?) to completely negate the damage from any attack (not sure if that's specifically cutting/blunt attacks or any). Miniskills each offer around 12.5% resistance to a particular type of damage (magic/fire/cold/electric/poison/psychic/asphyxiation for constitution/thermology/frost/galvanism/antidotes/philosophy/fitness, respectively). If you're a class that can wield a shield and attack while doing so, I suspect that the SoA will be more noticeable.
  • KadenKaden Member Posts: 460 ✭✭✭✭ - Eminent
    Do note that SoAs only blocks damage from physical attacks. Don't think that includes things like staffcast, envenomed arrows and asphyxiation.
    Sena
  • NizarisNizaris The Holy City of MhaldorMember Posts: 537 ✭✭✭✭✭ - Grand Achaean
    Does trans antidotes give a chance to shrug a venom, just reduce damage taken from things like envenomed arrows, or both?
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  • SenaSena Member Posts: 3,957 @@ - Legendary Achaean
    Just reduces damage from things like sumac/camus, envenomed arrows, green dragon breath.
  • NizarisNizaris The Holy City of MhaldorMember Posts: 537 ✭✭✭✭✭ - Grand Achaean
    Thanks Sena. Also, to the OP: definitely an SoA. It is probably my favourite artefact, and I won't ever change to a class that can't use it.
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  • SynbiosSynbios Member Posts: 4,621 @@ - Legendary Achaean
    Nizaris said:
    Does trans antidotes give a chance to shrug a venom, just reduce damage taken from things like envenomed arrows, or both?

    Just damage reduction from envenomed arrows. 
    Nosrac said:

    SOA or MINISKILLS

    In order to become more proficient in 1vs1 combat

    would SOA or Trans (Constitution/Thermology/Frost/Antidotes/ and Galvanism)

    have more noticeable benefits in combat.

    I understand SOA uses blunt/cutting and the MINISKILLS use magic based

    defenses but I would still like informative input

    Thanks!


    Make sure your class is compatible with the SoA insofar as that you can hunt or pvp properly with SoA. Classes like Magi, Shaman, Jester can wield an SoA and still be fully capable of fighting while wielding it, while classes like Monk and Knight will not be able to use their full tekura combo or doubleslash, respectively while wielding it, while blademasters are unable to use the SoA outright.

    Sherazad
  • LaynaLayna Member Posts: 110 ✭✭✭ - Distinguished
    I put off getting a SoA for so long, even going so far as to get a credit pet first, and I honestly think I should have listened to advice and gotten the SoA first. It's by far the best artefact I own and had I known better, I would have gotten one when I first started.

  • AntoniusAntonius Member Posts: 4,926 @@ - Legendary Achaean
    I'm a Knight (though also a Dragon), and I still think my Shield of Absorption is one of the best artefacts I own. Admittedly I did miniskills way before I bought it.

    It honestly depends what you're struggling with. If you have problems with classes that use a specific (non-physical) damage type, then picking up the miniskill(s) that will help with that would be the best investment. If you're struggling with physical damage then the SoA is obviously the best. Fitness for the asphyxiation damage reduction is always a good choice, since it helps against kai choke. If you don't really struggle with anything damage-wise, then the SoA would also probably be the best choice.
  • DraukaDrauka Member Posts: 243 ✭✭✭ - Distinguished
    Cool thing about miniskills is that you can't lose them in any way. Even if you make the mistake of trading in artefacts including the SoA someday (like I did long ago), your miniskills will remain.
    Zael
  • ZaelZael Member Posts: 47
    I agree with @Drauka about the miniskills, I haven't had the pleasure if using a SoA (that's probably because im a blademaster...) but you would need buy credits to get it while learn miniskills are free.

  • SenaSena Member Posts: 3,957 @@ - Legendary Achaean
    Miniskills aren't free. A Shield of Absorption is 500 credits, while each miniskill (there are seven resistance miniskills in total) is ~115 credits.
  • DraukaDrauka Member Posts: 243 ✭✭✭ - Distinguished
    Indeed, very much paid for miniskills with cash money :)
  • KatzchenKatzchen MhaldorMember Posts: 2,000 @@ - Legendary Achaean
    Miniskills are only free if you have iron elite, and nothing else to spend the lessons on... nearly transed antidotes from that.


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  • KyrraKyrra AustraliaMember Posts: 4,861 @@ - Legendary Achaean
    They are free for grove users too.
    (D.M.A.): Cooper says, "Kyrra is either the most innocent person in the world, or the girl who uses the most innuendo seemingly unintentionally but really on purpose."

  • EldEld Member Posts: 3,946 @@ - Legendary Achaean
    Kyrra said:
    They are free for grove users too.
    Huh?
  • SenaSena Member Posts: 3,957 @@ - Legendary Achaean
    Eld said:
    Kyrra said:
    They are free for grove users too.
    Huh?
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  • KyrraKyrra AustraliaMember Posts: 4,861 @@ - Legendary Achaean
    Eld said:
    Kyrra said:
    They are free for grove users too.
    Huh?

    There's a small chance for random skill increases when using harvest hive. My sylvan is almost half way trained across her miniskills, and riding is up to Capable too now, I think. Getting a honeycomb from the shop of wonders lets you harvest hive twice a month instead of just the one. It's slow but awesome.
    (D.M.A.): Cooper says, "Kyrra is either the most innocent person in the world, or the girl who uses the most innuendo seemingly unintentionally but really on purpose."

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