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Refugees of Shallam, how are you coping?



  • TanaarTanaar Member Posts: 284 ✭✭✭✭ - Eminent
    I can't think of many plausible IC reasons for Team Good and Team Green to really have an issue in the foreseeable future, barring Eleusis getting in bed with Occultists or the *shallamese getting really stupid about logging for the new city. Neither of these things is in those organizations best interests and is against their long-established organizational characters.In other words, we'd have to go out of our way to provoke one another, and it would be entirely OOC motives twisting IC motivations.

    Now, were Eleusis/Oakstone to get really militant about absolutely everyone following Oakstone laws, or Good to really, really push hard on the hunting of innocents (with an even stricter definition on that front), or some event forcing the forestal/alchemist conflict to occur, that might be different. But as things stand, it's just not in either side's established interests to go out of their way pissing the other off. The forestals and the devout, while not natural allies, don't have a lot of differences.
  • VeldrinVeldrin DenmarkMember Posts: 491 ✭✭✭✭ - Eminent
    To be fair, the Jedi wouldn't fight with the Sith if the Sith wasn't trying to kill them all the time.

    A Jedi uses the force for knowledge and defense, never for attack.
    The reason the Jedi was wiped out by Palpatine was because they forgot how to be Jedi due to the war, they lost their path.

    And a movie with a Jedi Investigator ala Inspector Columbo would be awesome.
  • TvistorTvistor Member Posts: 2,900 @@ - Legendary Achaean
    You know, I figured the Jedi lost because of the army of clones.
  • ChryenthChryenth Member Posts: 1,323 @ - Epic Achaean
    I thought it was the mechanisms of a deranged, brilliant, galaxy-conquering psychopath.

    And his army of clones.
  • VeldrinVeldrin DenmarkMember Posts: 491 ✭✭✭✭ - Eminent
    Tvistor said:
    You know, I figured the Jedi lost because of the army of clones.
    By the time Palpatine set the clones on them, the majority had already lost their way, their bushido if you will. Some Jedi like Yoda or Obi-Wan hadn't (There was a ton more which you hunt down in some games like The Force Unleashed) so they managed to survive long into the Rebellion Era.

    The entire purpose of the war was mostly the corruption of the Jedi and to put himself on the throne. With all that foresight of his it's amazing he died in the way he did.
  • KorbenKorben Member Posts: 345 ✭✭✭ - Distinguished
    He'd foreseen Luke could destroy him, so he set about weakening Luke and then recruiting or killing him. He didn't foresee -how- Luke would destroy him.
  • ChryenthChryenth Member Posts: 1,323 @ - Epic Achaean
    Alternatively, by this point he was bat- insane because of the unfettered dark-side energies that were not-so-slowly destroying his body.
  • TvistorTvistor Member Posts: 2,900 @@ - Legendary Achaean
    Technically speaking Vader actually killed the last of the Sith, thus fulfilling the original prophecy about him being the Chosen One.

    Err, Shallam is slightly less interesting than this, I'm sorry.
  • ChryenthChryenth Member Posts: 1,323 @ - Epic Achaean
    That depends entirely on your interpretation of 'Sith', though. Doesn't include (for example) the One Sith, or Palpatine's multifarious apprentice candidates.

    I'm waiting for an admin to come along, make a super-nerdy Star Wars comment, then close the thread. Please don't do that admins, this just got interesting.
  • ThaumasThaumas Member Posts: 432 ✭✭✭✭ - Eminent
    I think you people missed Bluji's point:/
  • TvistorTvistor Member Posts: 2,900 @@ - Legendary Achaean
    To be perfectly honest, I probably would have found a movie about the life of a moisture farmer in the Star Wars universe perfectly interesting.

    But yeah, we get his point.

    Counterpoint: If you go to war with Eleusis you will fight so many artie monks it is depressing.
  • LyrLyr Member Posts: 420 ✭✭✭✭ - Eminent
    Artied occultists, artied monks, same deal.
  • HaldonHaldon I forgot...Member Posts: 180 ✭✭✭ - Distinguished
    I am waiting ever so impatiently for the new iteration of shallam. But may I ask a favor? Please please please for the love of all that is good and fine do not use New Hope as the name of the city. Using 'Funky Town' as the name would be preferable to 'New Hope'. Mostly because when I read it I always add an 'A' in front. It was a stupid movie name and is an even worse name for your city. Please I beg of you not to place this blight upon Achaea. Please!

    Oh did I say please? Please don't do eet! This is the best I can do at begging. [-O<
    Arguing with a zealot is only slightly easier than tunneling through a mountain with your forehead.
  • ChryenthChryenth Member Posts: 1,323 @ - Epic Achaean
    So there's going to be a cloud city called New Hope?
  • ShunsuiShunsui Member Posts: 681 @@ - Legendary Achaean
    With our new afk spot being the intersection of Alderan boulevard and Endor way.

  • ChryenthChryenth Member Posts: 1,323 @ - Epic Achaean
    edited January 2013
    [spoiler] 'Lord Templar, there's a priest of indeterminate Order at the gates.' 'Indeterminate Order? What makes you say that?' 'Well, he looks Hashani but his Order is no Moon.'

    Spoilered until I can think of a better joke.
  • ChryenthChryenth Member Posts: 1,323 @ - Epic Achaean
    Called it.
  • VansittartVansittart Member Posts: 232 ✭✭✭✭ - Eminent
    That was not the moderating I was looking for.
  • AsmodronAsmodron Member Posts: 3,137 @@ - Legendary Achaean
    The force is strong within Deucora. Much they will bring, I foresee.

    In the end meaning, im sure they will guide this all through.
  • AinaAina Member Posts: 102 ✭✭✭ - Distinguished
    Man, I really hope the blademasters get a house with knight classes.
  • NakariNakari Member Posts: 596 ✭✭✭✭✭ - Grand Achaean
    Aina said:
    Man, I really hope the blademasters get a house with knight classes.
    it seems rather likely given the decrees about the new houses not being carbon com pies of the old. Blademasters are the most likely non-knights to be in that sort of house, and a knight house that accepted only paladins and runewardens would have difficulty not being the Templar.

  • KatzchenKatzchen MhaldorMember Posts: 2,000 @@ - Legendary Achaean

    Blademaster knights, please no.

    The Wardens seem to have no problem not being the Templars, and they accept those two classes. Also the Templars did accept blademasters at some point, because there's at least one who was grandfathered in when they stopped.

                   Honourable, knight eternal,

                                            Darkly evil, cruel infernal.

                                                                     Necromanctic to the core,

                                                                                             Dance with death forever more.

  • NakariNakari Member Posts: 596 ✭✭✭✭✭ - Grand Achaean
    I know that they did at one point, or else we wouldn't have had a BM knight. Though, if I remember correctly, there were once quite a few more classes accepted into the Templars before the one class per house per city change.

    And I'm not taking a stance on whether or not they should be allowed to be 'knights', but I really hope that whatever comes out of this will live up to it's promise of not being all the Shallam houses 2.0. Everything that's been said divine-side seems to indicate that the new houses will be entirely different, and I feel like that probably makes the existence of a house with the same class and, for the most part person, composition as the Templars, as regardless of how they would be rebranded they would likely come out very similar.

  • IocunIocun Member Posts: 3,665 @@ - Legendary Achaean
    I'm sure the leaders of the coming houses will have a say in what classes they accept.
  • AktillumAktillum PhilippinesMember Posts: 1,368 @@ - Legendary Achaean
    edited January 2013
    *shallam Jesters should have suicidebirds instead of suicidemice.

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