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  • SilvarienSilvarien Member Posts: 577 ✭✭✭✭ - Eminent
    edited November 2015
    Medi said:
    I know this has been talked about, but what're thoughts these days on banning OOC clans? (I'd suggest keeping clans that deal with things like mudlet/svo)
    @Medi : I would argue against banning OOC clans. There is a very distinct line between IC and OOC, though some people (me included) don't always see it. But I've never seen any sort of prohibition on the game against players associating with each other on an OOC basis. I am in a couple of OOC clans but personally am not active in any -- but I do see people enjoying them, and I think it would be a good thing for the game to keep such enjoyment on the game, even if it is of a sort that needs to be "tightly contained" in the clans themselves. Literally the only thing that would happen from banning OOC clans would be a movement by their participants into an off-site medium, such as Facebook groups or Skype. That would make the distance between players and the game grow, not diminish, and people would be mindless anyway, but now even further away from IC activity should the need for it arise. Many players want to talk to each other as people, and they are going to do what they want, if you ban Achaea-based OOC communication, they'll just take it elsewhere. Since everybody already uses OOC distinction in stuff like Tells ( the // or () ) I don't really see the need to single out OOC clans when such communication is going to continue with or without them, anyway.
    Shirszae
  • SarapisSarapis Member, Administrator Posts: 3,398 Achaean staff
    OOC clans generally aren't the problem. It's a handful of clans that are, and they probably know who they are.
    SilvarienShirszaeKayeilJukilian
  • SybillaSybilla LondonMember Posts: 503 @@ - Legendary Achaean
    So I went on the Mud Connector and made an account to vote. Apparently Achaea's rank 92 (was 95 yesterday) with only 4 votes. Aardwolf has 266 votes cast and is rank #2.

    I don't know how popular or reliable those listings are, but 92 is way down regardless. I'm going to load myself up with sinus-clearing medicine and mill about their forums to see about giving us more of a presence, too.
  • AustereAustere TennesseeMember Posts: 2,270 @@ - Legendary Achaean
    Sarapis said:
    OOC clans generally aren't the problem. It's a handful of clans that are, and they probably know who they are.
    Initially, I opposed this idea because it will limit communication between factions that do result in a better playing experience. Upon closer inspection and the realization that 97% of people in the clans can't do anything or don't care, I vote delete em.  I dunno what rule you can create for a fair review of clans and that won't result in them being deleted if they exceed a character count, but I'm all for it. 
    MediJadys
  • KezKez Member Posts: 646 ✭✭✭✭✭ - Grand Achaean
    I dislike listening to people whine that nobody likes them when they are purposely playing a villain, but I don't blame the clan I heard it in for existing. Nobody can force me to join a clan against my will.

    Am I missing something?
    KasyaShirszaeTrey
  • MediMedi Member Posts: 94
    I'm in several OOC clans myself. I can see both sides of it. I just wonder what would happen if OOC -was- taken to other medium. Like the forums here, or skype, etc. Would afk people log out/journal more? Would some people just stop playing all together? Would there be more IC interactions? Would there be less OOC drama?
  • ValkynValkyn Member Posts: 734 ✭✭✭✭ - Eminent
    People are going to have their little ooc space and I'd rather it was in designated clans than the rest of them. I'm not in any ooc clans, but I don't think they should go.

    ShirszaeSilvarien
  • ShirszaeShirszae Santo DomingoMember Posts: 3,247 @@ - Legendary Achaean
    Medi said:
    I'm in several OOC clans myself. I can see both sides of it. I just wonder what would happen if OOC -was- taken to other medium. Like the forums here, or skype, etc. Would afk people log out/journal more? Would some people just stop playing all together? Would there be more IC interactions? Would there be less OOC drama?
    People would just speak in ooc tells, or skype while AFK-ing as much as they currently do. Better just leave OOC  clans as they are.

    And you won't understand the cause of your grief...


    ...But you'll always follow the voices beneath.

    SilvarienTrey
  • SzanthaxSzanthax San DiegoMember Posts: 1,906 @ - Epic Achaean
    Ainly said:
    Medi said:
    I know this has been talked about, but what're thoughts these days on banning OOC clans? (I'd suggest keeping clans that deal with things like mudlet/svo)
    I sometimes wonder if they contribute to people just "mindlessly" standing around while they chat oocly instead of actually roleplaying.

    As for player retention, the best solution really is for us as players to actively engage newbies.  Obviously, we can't be forced to do this, but ultimately if we want a wider player base this is what we need to do.  Not because we're required to, but because it is in our best interest to support the population of the game.
    As someone who has had minimal newbie experience, yesterday when someone asked me a question and all I could sayh was you need to talk to suchandsuch, it got me thinking what I need to do personally to help Achaea grow. Generally people don't invest the amount of time/money/energy that a lot of us have without having a deep connection and dare say it , love, for this game. Sure I've had my love/hate moments but the fact it's been around for as long as it has it's a testament to the beauty to that we have here.

    A bigger, more vibrant player only helps everyone, and the best marketing is us.



    JhaeliKasya
  • AlaskarAlaskar Member Posts: 393 ✭✭✭ - Distinguished
    We've made a pretty good improvement on the voting page in just a few days. I think we can take 1st. 

  • SzanthaxSzanthax San DiegoMember Posts: 1,906 @ - Epic Achaean
    Alaskar said:
    We've made a pretty good improvement on the voting page in just a few days. I think we can take 1st. 
    We just need to keep it up



  • SobriquetSobriquet Member Posts: 2,381 @@ - Legendary Achaean
    Then we get DDOS'd.....
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  • SzanthaxSzanthax San DiegoMember Posts: 1,906 @ - Epic Achaean
    Sobriquet said:
    Then we get DDOS'd.....
    just makes me want to vote even more :D



  • AlaskarAlaskar Member Posts: 393 ✭✭✭ - Distinguished
    Yeah. I'm pretty determined to get us to number one now. Not that I believe the two to be connected, but still.  I work 12 hour shifts, so I can vote on home wifi, mobile network, and work wifi. 6 votes a day.

  • TreyTrey Member Posts: 4,794 @@ - Legendary Achaean
    Anyone able to write a basic script that I can schedule as a task to run every twelve hours behind the scenes? I'm not all about hitting a string of wifi hot spots, but between my phone and PC I can crank out 4 a day.

  • KasyaKasya TennesseeMember Posts: 657 @ - Epic Achaean
    Voting resets December 1st. If we make an effort we could get number one right of the bat. And it's a good month to be ranked high, as school holidays start.
    SarapisJhaeli
  • SarapisSarapis Member, Administrator Posts: 3,398 Achaean staff
    Trey said:
    Anyone able to write a basic script that I can schedule as a task to run every twelve hours behind the scenes? I'm not all about hitting a string of wifi hot spots, but between my phone and PC I can crank out 4 a day.
    Best case would be mobile apps that can send you notifications.
  • GamdenGamden Member Posts: 225 ✭✭✭ - Distinguished
    When i just voted on pc it was 1044, then on Andriod it was 1044 again..?

  • AlaskarAlaskar Member Posts: 393 ✭✭✭ - Distinguished
    I think it updates every 15 minutes.

  • SarapisSarapis Member, Administrator Posts: 3,398 Achaean staff
    Yep, updates about every 15 mins.
  • DalricDalric Member Posts: 19 ✭✭ - Stalwart
    I'm very late to the party but I just read @Sarapis' post on page one about how they lose a lot of people going from the introduction into the real game. Going from very structured goals to the not-so-structured sandbox that we love so much.

    I would just like to say that as a new character that went from introduction into Ashtan (ironically the city with the stigma of being the least concerned with Roleplay) and into their city task system and then into the advancement system of the Vanguard House... Well. I have to say it felt absolutely seamless. Like, I completely loved it and although I am unfortunately very busy with real life getting in the way from work, to seriously injuring myself (tore a big muscle in my neck. Doctor says six month recovery period. Ugh!) to other titles being released (Fallout 4, duh) so I'm not active on Dalric right now, I will absolutely be returning when I am able. The reason for that by the way is, in part, due to that transition from introduction to Ashtan, to House.

    It is approximately several galaxies in magnitude better now than when it was when I last created a new character.

    So... @Sarapis I feel very comfortable saying you guys are definitely doing something right, and so are the players. At least in Ashtan and the Vanguard.
    SarapisSobriquetReilochJhaeli
  • AlaskarAlaskar Member Posts: 393 ✭✭✭ - Distinguished
    Out of curiosity, is the retention of newbies from top mudsites  significantly greater than other sources? 

  • TharvisTharvis The Land of Beer and Chocolate!Member Posts: 3,107 @@ - Legendary Achaean
    edited November 2015
    i'm not sure how they'd check that other than going by registry information - and I'm assuming alot of the people that don't stick around also never used the registry process, so the statistic representation would be incomplete at best
    Aurora says, "Tharvis, why are you always breaking things?!"
    Artemis says, "You are so high maintenance, Tharvis, gosh."
    Tecton says, "It's still your fault, Tharvis."

  • SarapisSarapis Member, Administrator Posts: 3,398 Achaean staff
    Alaskar said:
    Out of curiosity, is the retention of newbies from top mudsites  significantly greater than other sources? 
    Yes.
  • SarapisSarapis Member, Administrator Posts: 3,398 Achaean staff
    Continue the discussion here, please, where the first post has full instructions on voting for us.

    http://forums.achaea.com/discussion/4242/voting-for-achaea-a-must-read
  • AegothAegoth Member Posts: 2,767 @@ - Legendary Achaean
    The cure for cancer huh? Wish I know that 3 years ago!
    SarapisSilvarien
  • SilvarienSilvarien Member Posts: 577 ✭✭✭✭ - Eminent
    edited November 2015
    Aegoth said:
    The cure for cancer huh? Wish I know that 3 years ago!
    @Aegoth : I thought Necromancy users were immune to cancer due to being cancerous?
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