This is in response to @Bluef
so we don't get off track in the other thread and have a discussion about all this stuffs:
From the origins of Alchemy in Achaea:
their hall, named the Cauda Pavonis, they profited from trading
transmuted minerals and tonics to the elite who could afford them. Over
time, however, these curatives were replaced by other more palatable and
readily available remedies, and respect for the isolated order began to dwindle.
Eventually, the leader of the cabal made the fateful choice to depart
from the society that shunned them once and for all. Secretly the
Alchemists used their combined talents to displace the Cauda Pavonis to a
fold in the ether: the space between planes.
From Nurazar, Part III:
Watching with only the mildest of interest,
the scholars of the Cauda Pavonis observed unrest in the forestal
community as well. Groves were rendered useless and beasts barely clung
to life while Nature's devoteessought answers from every imaginable
The Cauda Pavonis would probably not
be happy with the allowances in Addama's solution (but they probably
aren't happy already about the way certain cities have found work
arounds for their decision to allow forestals to be grandfathered in).
The difference here is that this is more than just a handful of people
we're talking about now. The history of the alchemic class and its
rivalry with nature should be supported, not washed away by the
There are no Alchemy organizations that even explore that RP it would
just turn into Eleusis ganking shit talking Alchemists when they harvest
Not everything has to end in a fight between Nature and whoever with
shitalking and a zillion deathsights. Just saying, if that was the
roleplay basis (and I believe I've only noted a small part of it) then
it should be supported or explained away by another happening that has
far more to do with RP than with the mechanics of trade skills.
Bluef said that anyway,
Ok, I totally agree with you on this, it should definitely be enforced/used in an RP way that doesn't turn everything into Mhashtan lol raiding Eleusis because "Wez R Alchermerst alliez" Ending in...
Oh and Oakstone/Eleusis ganks on Alchemists who gather primes would surely be lol.
Or it should just be done away with as people are already a bit confused about it with grandfathered forestals living in a city that don't get enemied to Oakstone because they live with Alchemists. It's pretty obvious it's an avenue no alchemists want to go down. Not to mention Eleusis just ignores it completely, hell some forestals use Alchemy cures!
Cauda Pavonis is like a denizen organization that doesn't give a shit about us at all, so who really cares what they think. If players took over or even ran the damn thing and had an Alchemist thing similar to Oakstone that would definitely enforce the RP or at least give it some direction, although we already have necromancers for anti-forestal RP.
I guess what I'm trying to say is, what can Alchemists bring to anti-forestal RP that Apostate/Infernal don't already? Not to mention Mhaldor as a whole.