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I don't have a problem with the idea of nested orgs, but I think the idea of the current Houses persisting as a nested org is a bad one. Part of the purpose of the Renaissance is to transform the Houses into suborgs of the city, as opposed to the largely independent orgs they are now. Historically, a lot of people have been Black Lotus, who happen to live in Hashan, or Occultists who happen to live in Ashtan. we're transforming into a city-focused world, and you don't want to carry over those faults when you don't have to. You'll just end up diluting the city's identity and bringing in old problems that you missed a perfect opportunity to get rid of
In the end, nested orgs solve two problems of renaissance houses: (1) they allow for class-specific RP and the continuation of well-developed orgs that the renaissance houses are replacing and (2) they help to reduce the homogeneity imposed by the new, more-inclusive houses without interfering with their ability to be so inclusive.The problem that the Serpentlords face is that they're not a nested organisation - they're functionally just a citiless house that doesn't have any of the mechanical benefits of other citiless houses (like the CIJ) to make recruitment of newbies feasible. They don't have a city or a house to feed members into them. What I find likely to be problematic about the Serpentlords is that they're setting themselves up to compete with houses as a sort of degenerate, single-class pseudo-house. That's why I think they're in a substantially harder spot than, say, the Order of Thurisaz (even if it has had a rocky start), which is not trying to do the same thing.
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