Freedom stupid concept, should be replaced with something to make everyone less embarrassed when they have to explain to their friend they're introducing to Achaea "oh, yeah. Those dudes that just rolled our guards and burned our tent down are the city of freedom. This happens regularly, but trust me, its not as stupid as it sounds." Don't really care what its replaced with, but dear god.
Freedom stupid concept, should be replaced with something to make everyone less embarrassed when they have to explain to their friend they're introducing to Achaea "oh, yeah. Those dudes that just rolled our guards and burned our tent down are the city of freedom. This happens regularly, but trust me, its not as stupid as it sounds." Don't really care what its replaced with, but dear god.
Ashtan = America Occultists = Bilderberg Group/Majestic 12/Bohemian Grove/Freemasons/Illuminati Shadowsnakes = CIA Ashura = hicks with guns Warlocks = Wall Street or something, ok this analogy sucks
Freedom stupid concept, should be replaced with something to make everyone less embarrassed when they have to explain to their friend they're introducing to Achaea "oh, yeah. Those dudes that just rolled our guards and burned our tent down are the city of freedom. This happens regularly, but trust me, its not as stupid as it sounds." Don't really care what its replaced with, but dear god.
Ashtan = America Occultists = Bilderberg Group/Majestic 12/Bohemian Grove/Freemasons/Illuminati Shadowsnakes = CIA Ashura = hicks with guns Warlocks = Wall Street or something, ok this analogy sucks
I don't know, as long as you replace Shallam with a South American country, it still holds up pretty well
Yudhi's attack on Ashtan was a clever little panic-inducing event. It felt like foreshadowing for the same thing happening to us, but it would be silly for them to delete both of the oldest cities. Great element of surprise in wiping out Shallam, but doing two cities doesn't sound like any sort of useful.
Besides, Ashtan could rebuild itself in a day with artefact escrow. :P
Shallamese will jump right back on the blandwagon of Light-and-Good, but Ashtan would be like a homeless mercenary force composed of Freedomites and snooty Occultist assbites. (no offense to the cool ones)
I like my steak like I like my Magic cards: mythic rare.
Can't argue with those teeth. Though your JITBs don't assbite, they headbite. Fatally.
(BTW, you'll probably need to talk to Halos directly regarding that thing you sent me a tell about. I'll only be around sparingly for a couple of days so...yeah)
"Our creed? To obtain more bling than all of Sapience combined."
Yeah, could spin that.
Could actually work that in the history too. War of Siroccians:
Shallam: We're claiming these mines to improve our economy and produce a sizable metalworking industry! Ashtan: Well, we're claiming these mines because I need my mithril grille and spinny 'Big A' necklace. Now get out or I'mma cap you on the knee!
Can't argue with those teeth. Though your JITBs don't assbite, they headbite. Fatally.
(BTW, you'll probably need to talk to Halos directly regarding that thing you sent me a tell about. I'll only be around sparingly for a couple of days so...yeah)
Hahha I love Shaco.
I was honestly thinking of him recently and how cool it would be if our Jesters were remodeled after him. Pranky Assassins ftw.
Hallucinations: Create a doppleganger of yourself in the room to fool your foes. When slain it will explode sending hundreds of knives flying, slashing at the fools.
Now-you-see-me: Disappear in a puff of smoke becoming invisible, your next attack will do double damage on your target.
admittedly I really did want more of the "sieging cities" part to go on, even "scarping the old, bringing out the new".
Yes I know the "Shallam was scrapped for a reason, the event is just an excuse", but I generally like exciting factors in an event and this one seems to have met its end.
Could have at least broken down Hashan a bit Sartan. We do exist you know!
A large part of the Hashani (and other non-polarized cities) irrelevance is that it is ignored on a global event scale too often. I'm not complaining. But it's a little narratively-imbalanced. Thankfully we have a Matron @Ourania who tries to engage us. Maybe if we whine a lot they'll let us sit at the event table in the next world-one.
The problem with Hashan is that Darkness is dead (again) and the rest of the ideals the city tries to rally around are done better elsewhere. Even Cyrene maintains a strong identity and world presence, and that's without having a real central ideology.
The problem with Hashan is that Darkness is dead (again) and the rest of the ideals the city tries to rally around are done better elsewhere. Even Cyrene maintains a strong identity and world presence, and that's without having a real central ideology.
The problem with Hashan is that Darkness is dead (again) and the rest of the ideals the city tries to rally around are done better elsewhere. Even Cyrene maintains a strong identity and world presence, and that's without having a real central ideology.
What's a Cyrene? O.o
It's a technical term for the massive pile of paperwork and baked goods that can be found in the Southern Vashnars. All the sugar attracts a lot of ants, which may resemble people from a close distance, but they are very resilient.
(D.M.A.): Cooper says, "Kyrra is either the most innocent person in the world, or the girl who uses the most innuendo seemingly unintentionally but really on purpose."
The problem with Hashan is that Darkness is dead (again) and the rest of the ideals the city tries to rally around are done better elsewhere. Even Cyrene maintains a strong identity and world presence, and that's without having a real central ideology.
You make a decent point. Though, to both Twilight and Ourania's credit, they did an admirable job of (re)joining the ideologies while he was still around/active. The identity formation that happened during that period (ourania's reawakening) was smartly carried out emphasizing again Night (reaching back in time to pull some tropes forward). Ideally, we'd have them both around and active.
O does a pretty good job of reminding us of Dark/Night (but not Darknight !) But, like with all the cities, some people whine/complain/moan/bemoan/begrudge/stomp feet when they don't have everything exactly as they want it...instead of working with what they have to improve upon it.
The third member of the triad floated away. We've sent a message in a bottle. Nothing came back.
Edit: Also, Darkness being absent doesn't actually have much to do with overall world event structure. After all, we now have a "patron team" to help plan inclusions, right? It'd be nice if during a world event each city got a little piece of the pie, even if some cities play a more central role. I have no issue with this being a largely Mhaldor/Shallam reboot event. It'd just be nice if Ashtan wasn't the only city to get an RP nod.
While I neither agree nor disagree with the point that the admins could've done more for Hashan, Hashan could've probably done more for itself too. Shallam, Ashtan and Mhaldor have all carved out their own opportunities that the Garden has run with alongside the regularly scripted event.
In my opinion, you should worry less about what other people aren't doing, and just really throw yourself into doing everything you can. Somebody in the Garden is bound to notice if you do, and happy fun times will inevitably follow.
And I love too Be still, my indelible friend That love soon might end You are unbreaking And be known in its aching Though quaking Shown in this shaking Though crazy Lately of my wasteland, baby That's just wasteland, baby
While I neither agree nor disagree with the point that the admins could've done more for Hashan, Hashan could've probably done more for itself too. Shallam, Ashtan and Mhaldor have all carved out their own opportunities that the Garden has run with alongside the regularly scripted event.
In my opinion, you should worry less about what other people aren't doing, and just really throw yourself into doing everything you can. Somebody in the Garden is bound to notice if you do, and happy fun times will inevitably follow.
Couldn't agree more.
I don't think the Ashtan attack was in the original plan at all. I think it was written in recently to go along with the current Ashtan/Mhaldor relations.
I understand Salvar's sentiment, but also that the focus of this event is not on Hashan. I was rather pleased with the parts we got to play in the Nurazar event through Twilight's central role and the tie we were able to make with the alchemist's astronomy after having just reopened the Observatory and getting to discover and name the nebula. Then I agree the return of Ourania was well timed during the event, and added a lot to our side of the storyline. Although each city did get their own "slice" during that event I was quite pleased with the one we got in Hashan and how well it was tailored to us and provided a good platform for moving forward. I know I especially appreciated it having just become Seneschal since it gave me something to work off of.
As for seeking it, I think Hashan has been, I would not argue we could not do more, we always could, but Ourania as was Twilight are a bit subtler Gods than most and the way they produce those opportunities are much subtler too, especially from an outside perspective. Finally, though it seems like this event is winding down now, it certainly is not over yet, we shall see what happens!
Hashan has been going through a very slow and painful rebuilding process over the last few years and it has been without any radical events that have aided some other cities. Still, the difference now from then is quite apparent, at least to me, and I am not done yet.
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still happy having a city, though.
Yen and I are just very affectionate.
Sad that these may actually be improvements.
"Our creed? To obtain more bling than all of Sapience combined."
Yeah, could spin that.
Occultists = Bilderberg Group/Majestic 12/Bohemian Grove/Freemasons/Illuminati
Shadowsnakes = CIA
Ashura = hicks with guns
Warlocks = Wall Street or something, ok this analogy sucks
Yudhi's attack on Ashtan was a clever little panic-inducing event. It felt like foreshadowing for the same thing happening to us, but it would be silly for them to delete both of the oldest cities. Great element of surprise in wiping out Shallam, but doing two cities doesn't sound like any sort of useful.
Besides, Ashtan could rebuild itself in a day with artefact escrow. :P
Shallamese will jump right back on the blandwagon of Light-and-Good, but Ashtan would be like a homeless mercenary force composed of Freedomites and snooty Occultist assbites. (no offense to the cool ones)
That would be really interesting, actually.
Son, I am disappoint.
I was just being a snooty Jester assbite.
Can't argue with those teeth. Though your JITBs don't assbite, they headbite. Fatally.
(BTW, you'll probably need to talk to Halos directly regarding that thing you sent me a tell about. I'll only be around sparingly for a couple of days so...yeah)
Could actually work that in the history too. War of Siroccians:
Shallam: We're claiming these mines to improve our economy and produce a sizable metalworking industry!
Ashtan: Well, we're claiming these mines because I need my mithril grille and spinny 'Big A' necklace. Now get out or I'mma cap you on the knee!
Hahha I love Shaco.
I was honestly thinking of him recently and how cool it would be if our Jesters were remodeled after him. Pranky Assassins ftw.
Now-you-see-me: Disappear in a puff of smoke becoming invisible, your next attack will do double damage on your target.
^.^
O does a pretty good job of reminding us of Dark/Night (but not Darknight !) But, like with all the cities, some people whine/complain/moan/bemoan/begrudge/stomp feet when they don't have everything exactly as they want it...instead of working with what they have to improve upon it.
The third member of the triad floated away. We've sent a message in a bottle. Nothing came back.
Edit: Also, Darkness being absent doesn't actually have much to do with overall world event structure. After all, we now have a "patron team" to help plan inclusions, right? It'd be nice if during a world event each city got a little piece of the pie, even if some cities play a more central role. I have no issue with this being a largely Mhaldor/Shallam reboot event. It'd just be nice if Ashtan wasn't the only city to get an RP nod.
@Grandue [-(
That love soon might end You are unbreaking
And be known in its aching Though quaking
Shown in this shaking Though crazy
Lately of my wasteland, baby That's just wasteland, baby
I don't think the Ashtan attack was in the original plan at all. I think it was written in recently to go along with the current Ashtan/Mhaldor relations.
As for seeking it, I think Hashan has been, I would not argue we could not do more, we always could, but Ourania as was Twilight are a bit subtler Gods than most and the way they produce those opportunities are much subtler too, especially from an outside perspective. Finally, though it seems like this event is winding down now, it certainly is not over yet, we shall see what happens!
Hashan has been going through a very slow and painful rebuilding process over the last few years and it has been without any radical events that have aided some other cities. Still, the difference now from then is quite apparent, at least to me, and I am not done yet.