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@Greys - if you're still counting cause then you're part of the reason pk sucks. There is no 'cause' anymore, and people who still try to count up how many kills they're 'owed' need to stop.

Read HELP PK. If I can understand it as someone who only ever ends up on the running away because I offended someone end of things, the the combatants sure can too.

(If I'm overreacting, I'm sorry, but I joined this game well after cause counting was removed and I'm still dealing with people counting cause. It gets frustrating.)

Actually yea, I might have to buy that bridge to cross over the river of tears that you're starting to make.

If you're AR3+, you're not a non-com. Get the fuck out of here

As with other PK scenarios, we aren't really interested in litigating every possible specific hypothetical (or any of them), but if you're on a ship and the captain fires on someone, you are considered part of the attackers, and vice versa. Otherwise, all standard PK guidelines apply: an attack is worthy of retribution, it does not have to be a full sinking.

Ow... I should not have followed him into that room.

Zsarachnor, the Vampire Lord (male Vampire).

His age is hidden by the sands of time.

He is an extremely credible character.

He is near-permanent Infamous.

He is a member of the Quisalis Mark.

He is a Vampire Lord in Azdun.

He is a member of the Vampire class.

His motto: 'Humans make the best juice boxes.'

See HONOURS DEEDS ZSARACHNOR to view his 61 special honours.

@Minkai

Jumping into a fight to defend someone else is already outlined under section 12 of HELP PK. Anyone who does this is subject to retaliation (on sea or land), and cannot then pursue their own retribution as outlined in announce #5056: "If you involve yourself in someone else's conflict and are later hired on or killed for it, the conflict is OVER. You CANNOT hire or seek retribution for this. Issues about it will be summarily dismissed."

This is essentially the same way that land combat works and while sea is somewhat different insofar as no initial reasoning is required, there are by design almost no circumstances where you can attack someone and not be subject to retaliation ( treacherous planes, certain PK events, etc).

The only exceptions to this are defending your own org territory as a member of that org, which is outlined in HELP PK under section 13. Obviously, the oceans are no org's territory and so there are no 'defence rights'.

- Players may now seek retribution on land for conflict that takes place at sea. The oceans are no longer a safe haven to attack anyone and everyone without repercussions.

I've copied over the latest announce post detailing updates to PK rules and systems. Feel free to discuss!

- Players may now seek retribution on land for conflict that takes place at sea. The oceans are no longer a safe haven to attack anyone and everyone without repercussions.

 - Soldiers of army rank 3 or above may now be attacked in pursuit of a sanction while within their home city, and no longer require other PK-reasoning to initiate combat with.

 - Soldiers below army rank 3 will still require appropriate RP reasoning to attack prior to a sanction taking effect.

 - Non soldiers and city allies will now contribute to tank charging progress when slain during a sanction.

 - Army rank and ally status now show on HONOURS to allow raiders to distinguish these.

 - Relics will now have a chance to reset from your inventory if you are standing in a room with allied guards.

 - The maximum number of contracts that can be filed at once has been increased from 5 to 10.

 We also wish to better convey the fact that Achaea's denizen population are real inhabitants of the world and not simply 'bashing fodder'. As such:

 - Over the coming days, certain high profile denizens will gain the ability to file contracts against players via the Quisalis or Ivory Marks.

 - These contracts may be filed for a number of reasons and are completed in the same way as all other contracts.

 Lastly, HELP PK has undergone a much needed facelift to be somewhat more comprehensive and consistent with modern standards. Filing an issue is almost never the correct response to a PK related scenario and that is the stance we will be continuing to take going forward. I'd encourage everyone to thoroughly review HELP PK and let us know if you have questions or feedback.