Mishgul
Nov 6 2009, 06:04 PM
faster prayer sequence that costs more exp please.
Laiila
Nov 6 2009, 06:09 PM
Yes, please.
Mishgul
Nov 6 2009, 06:33 PM
QUOTE
Just keep the same experience loss with a shorter prayer sequence. You don't have to balance it out with increased exp loss. :\ Praying already kicks your experience in the balls.
quote is Rynn
Griffel
Nov 6 2009, 06:38 PM
I think you're gonna need an actual justification for this type of change.
Mishgul
Nov 6 2009, 07:01 PM
5 minutes is a long time. to be doing nothing
Manny
Nov 6 2009, 07:07 PM
To quote Doctor House, "You idiot!"
Edit: Justification: If you're doing something stupid enough to cause your character's death, you deserve to sit in a corner for five minutes.
Lang
Nov 6 2009, 07:27 PM
QUOTE (Mishgul @ Nov 6 2009, 01:01 PM)

5 minutes is a long time. to be doing nothing
2 1/2 minutes, actually.
rledaman
Nov 6 2009, 07:28 PM
So, sitting in the Clocktower in Cyrene doing Senate paperwork when i get instantly choked to death because a raid started up.. I did something stupid and deserve to wait 5 minutes to do anything again?
And yes, most times that I die, I end up praying. Especially with my lack of geographical skills to find a forest and only two people who actively care enough to resurrect me and have the patience to guide me to a forest.
Darroth
Nov 6 2009, 07:36 PM
It's not that bad, go browse on a website, get a drink, turn on a tv.
Balthazar
Nov 6 2009, 07:38 PM
I'm pretty sure the five minutes is to give some of you out there a lil cooldown from the txtrage.
EDIT: Or go priest. I can't remember the last time I had to pray.
Otha
Nov 6 2009, 07:44 PM
QUOTE (Darroth @ Nov 6 2009, 07:36 PM)

It's not that bad, go browse on a website, get a drink, turn on a tv.
^qft
The current prayer sequence is only annoying when you die 2-3 times <10 minutes, otherwise it's fine.
Talesinger
Nov 6 2009, 08:11 PM
QUOTE (Otha @ Nov 6 2009, 07:44 PM)

The current prayer sequence is only annoying
Agreed
Griffel
Nov 6 2009, 08:12 PM
Prayer plays an important balancing role in large-scale conflicts; the only way to gain a strategic advantage is to get people out of the fight for a couple minutes by making them pray. If the only countervailing interest is "this is annoying, I'm bored," I'm not convinced there should be a change.
rledaman
Nov 6 2009, 08:15 PM
I have no opinion on the requested change. I pray all of the time and just wonder around or read forums while praying.
I was simply saying that fau.. Manny's comment about praying meaning that you were stupid and deserved to pray was pretty stupid in and of itself
Lang
Nov 6 2009, 08:18 PM
2 1/2 minutes (it's not 5 minutes, it's 2 1/2, I clocked it myself) really isn't that long and I don't see why it needs to be reduced.
Furthermore, the "faster praying, higher experience loss" is an even worse idea. I'll take 2 1/2 minutes of waiting versus all the bashing I'd have to do to get back that experience.
Otha
Nov 6 2009, 08:22 PM
QUOTE (Griffel @ Nov 6 2009, 08:12 PM)

Prayer plays an important balancing role in large-scale conflicts; the only way to gain a strategic advantage is to get people out of the fight for a couple minutes by making them pray. If the only countervailing interest is "this is annoying, I'm bored," I'm not convinced there should be a change.
QUOTE
Or if you have to pray in something like a CTF or world event or raid where time is really crucial and/or you can't bear to miss out on something.
I agree with Griffel, without a long praying duration raid/defense would turn into even more of a zerg situation than it currently is. The entire purpose of the pray sequence is to keep people out of commission for longer than it takes to redef.
I'm not saying the pray sequence absolutely shouldn't be rebalanced, but if it is I think it should be done with raids in mind (re-evaluate it completely, meaning it may take longer than it currently does in the end.)
Edit: I still see no logical argument to make it shorter.
Manny
Nov 7 2009, 03:22 AM
QUOTE (Otha @ Nov 6 2009, 03:22 PM)

QUOTE (Griffel @ Nov 6 2009, 08:12 PM)

Prayer plays an important balancing role in large-scale conflicts; the only way to gain a strategic advantage is to get people out of the fight for a couple minutes by making them pray. If the only countervailing interest is "this is annoying, I'm bored," I'm not convinced there should be a change.
QUOTE
Or if you have to pray in something like a CTF or world event or raid where time is really crucial and/or you can't bear to miss out on something.
I agree with Griffel, without a long praying duration raid/defense would turn into even more of a zerg situation than it currently is. The entire purpose of the pray sequence is to keep people out of commission for longer than it takes to redef.
I'm not saying the pray sequence absolutely shouldn't be rebalanced, but if it is I think it should be done with raids in mind (re-evaluate it completely, meaning it may take longer than it currently does in the end.)
Edit: I still see no logical argument to make it shorter.
kekekeke Mhaldor Rush!
Acarion
Nov 7 2009, 03:43 AM
What about changing the sequence altogether, to something based on the player character's alignment ie. darker imagery for evil, the current one for neutral-ish, and images of the sublime for the good-aligned? Then again I guess Maya does say She transcends the distinction of good/evil...
I pray a lot
I don't mind the praying sequence. I wish it would drop me off in the Inferno though
SlyViolin
Nov 7 2009, 02:34 PM
Delete Ressurrections.
You bastsards be thankful for what you got already you No.
Mystic Silhouette
Nov 7 2009, 03:03 PM
QUOTE (SlyViolin @ Nov 7 2009, 09:34 AM)

Delete Ressurrections.
You bastsards be thankful for what you got already you No.
I'm going to assume you live in Australia(I think I'm correct) and that you're not drinking in the AM.
Firey
Nov 7 2009, 04:36 PM
Just make it possible to do a couple of commands while praying, such as 'honours', 'stat', 'score', 'stat stats' and 'readnews etc etc'... That way, it won't be -that- boring and annoying to pray.
-Firey-
Awan
Nov 7 2009, 06:03 PM
Ooh, good idea.
I mean, you can already read the news while you're asleep...
Korben
Nov 7 2009, 09:32 PM
QUOTE (Firey @ Nov 7 2009, 05:36 PM)

Just make it possible to do a couple of commands while praying, such as 'honours', 'stat', 'score', 'stat stats' and 'readnews etc etc'... That way, it won't be -that- boring and annoying to pray.
Good idea.
Kairuni
Nov 7 2009, 09:38 PM
Double pray-sequence time, half the experience lost. (Plus what Firey suggested)
Gorlasintan
Nov 7 2009, 09:52 PM
QUOTE (Kairuni @ Nov 7 2009, 03:38 PM)

Double pray-sequence time, half the experience lost.
No.
Kairuni
Nov 7 2009, 09:54 PM
It's fine as-is, but what Firey suggested would make it better. 2.5 minutes is long enough to keep you out of the fray for enough time to make it count, and the exp loss is already damn high. If you don't want to pray, buy a gem of transmutation.
Gorlasintan
Nov 7 2009, 09:56 PM
Firey's suggestion is fine. Yours is not.
Lang
Nov 7 2009, 10:05 PM
The time and experience loss for praying is fine.
Danith
Nov 8 2009, 02:54 AM
QUOTE (rledaman @ Nov 6 2009, 02:28 PM)

So, sitting in the Clocktower in Cyrene doing Senate paperwork when i get instantly choked to death because a raid started up.. I did something stupid and deserve to wait 5 minutes to do anything again?
And yes, most times that I die, I end up praying. Especially with my lack of geographical skills to find a forest and only two people who actively care enough to resurrect me and have the patience to guide me to a forest.
I don't know why, but I always laugh when I see someone mention "paperwork" that they "have to do" in this game.
Kairuni
Nov 8 2009, 03:45 AM
QUOTE (Gorlasintan @ Nov 7 2009, 01:56 PM)

Firey's suggestion is fine. Yours is not.
My suggestion was sarcasm, Gorlasintan. Initial post being decrease time, mine being increase it. Both are unnecessary.
Balthazar
Nov 8 2009, 07:10 AM
QUOTE (Danith @ Nov 7 2009, 08:54 PM)

I don't know why, but I always laugh when I see someone mention "paperwork" that they "have to do" in this game.
Tael
Nov 8 2009, 09:14 AM
QUOTE (Balthazar @ Nov 7 2009, 11:10 PM)

QUOTE (Danith @ Nov 7 2009, 08:54 PM)

I don't know why, but I always laugh when I see someone mention "paperwork" that they "have to do" in this game.
Leadership positions take paperwork, even in this game. I fail to see how that fact is at all remarkable.
Pentharian
Nov 12 2009, 03:04 AM
No. It's fine.
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