DELETE VEILS.

Since we know they won't do it cold turkey, I propose this:



This way, IRE can still make money off people wanting to sense people with veils, but the retarded "Buy Veil to see <person>" loop is brought to a glorious end. Once these start selling, and you KNOW they will, cease the sale of new Veils because a bed serves a similar function. Then, if you want to make us all truly happy and Achaea a better place, delete veils altogether, refunding if necessary in regular credits, not bound.

To compensate for the loss of people spending 600 dollars to buy a retarded artefact, raise the price of Shields of Absorption to 1000 credits.

Why have a 2000 credit item that can be negated by a 500 credit item? People wouldn't buy it, and 2000 credits is a lot of money for IRE to consider losing.
I'm also unsure how a bed serves the same purpose as a veil. A veil you can wear out and about in the world, and a bed doesn't move.

The reason a 500 cr nullifies a 2k cr one is because we're trying to phase out the latter, or at least prevent the rise of new ones. The money lost in veils would be replaced in both the goggles and the escalated price of the SoA. Because the cost is less intimidating than the 2K veil, they will sell more, and possible IRE would make consistently more rather than a lot in short bursts. I said similar purpose, not the same.

Only problem I see...you delete veils and then why have the 500 cr item? No one would buy the 500 cr item because they would assume that veils are getting phased out, AND no one would buy a 2000 cr item when a 500 cr item would defeat it.

I'm operating under the assumption that IRE will not, under any circumstances, get rid of the veils they already sold. Therefore the goggles never go out of use. If they delete them though, they'll have to deal with the loudest crying they've possibly ever heard, which would force them to refund both veil and goggle owners. They'd be soothed by the joyous exclamations of the rest of Achaea though.

Make it 200cr.

I'm fine with that, but not sure if IRE would be.

But then that devalues the veils, they will have to listen to people whine/rage/ragequit/demand refunds as their 2000 cr investment gets nerfed. The goggles would go out of use because, at least if it were me, I'd trade in the veil for some other artefact, but not the goggles because everyone else would be getting rid of their veil too. The goggles wouldn't get used because there would be no veils, and veils wouldn't get used because there would be goggles. At least, that's my point of view. Kind of a catch-22.

Anything with 'there would be no veils' as a plausible scenario is a good thing.

Exactly! People realize their veils are becoming worthless, trade them in on their own accord, and when veils become almost non-existent the goggles start getting traded in and then we're back to square one, but without veils or a severely limited amount of them because no new ones are being sold!

HA HA!

Brilliant idea. Short-term fix for veils that makes their use completely untenable in the long-term.

While just deleting veils and refunding everyone would be better, this is definitely a step in the right direction.

I hate to point this out... but other than the vocal minority on the forums, there's never been any notion or suggestion that IRE are ever going to delete veils.

Stop crying and drop the 600 USD. I mean, that's nothing, man.



Oh wait...

I bet you also tell anorexic women they're fat, and men you sleep with they have small... nevermind.

I see nothing in her post that would cause you to say that.

*flaunts his veil*

It's more likely that IRE will introduce different levels of veils than get rid of them completely.

Edit: I support the above business opportunity. Also, it's only fair that I receive a veil of the highest level due to the revenue I just generated for IRE.

- you.

Imyrr will kill me because he loves his, but I hate veils and I'm not sure what good they are for the game. People who buy them love them though, so I reckon they do help fund the game. So I can see it from that standpoint. I mean, I would probably like one, but won't buy one out of principle.

Veils may provide a small portion of funding for the game, but the damage they cause to the atmosphere of the game far outweighs this.

It does not physically cost money for IRE to give people credit refunds.



No matter what, Profit will always have the highest level veil. Just fyi.

Gift me chitin greaves and I will grudgingly accept the existence of veils.

@Katia: That is why I'm not asking for their immediate deletion. I'm asking that they cease producing the bastards and phase them out through the use of another artefact. Veil owners get to keep their current atrocities for as long as they want.

@Bonko: Clown! WTF are you doing? I thought we were friends.

@Flair: My idea compensates for the funds lost by no longer creating veils, so you needn't consider that as a justification for their existence.

Please don't hike the price of SoA. Otherwise, require everyone who owns one to pay the suggested 500 additional credits to keep the one they own--see how that goes over.

Wait, what? That doesn't even make sense.

What if Veils just randomly gave the chance of farsee failing? Or if it only worked for a duration?

what is this i dont even

The only truly Good Idea™ in this thread is the deletion of veils.

The secondary idea in the OP regarding a cheap artefact to get around veils is an Acceptable Alternative For The Time Being™, however.

You do know you'll be the one refunding everyone's 600 USD when they delete them cause it was your idea, right?

Uh, you'd get a refund of 2000 bound credits.

If you're lucky.

EDIT: You paid $600 for 2000cr, not $600 for a veil.

Fact.

Let me be unreasonable and irrational!!

This is an idea, generally posted within this section of the forums, and this particular idea in this specific thread.

Stop distracting from my good idea with your bad, wtf idea or I will kick you in the head.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pHHIqSYXJGQ

You'd have to find me, first.

wear veil

Ideally we would delete veils.

Actually even if you up the price to 1k it's still doable. Consider that you are paying half the price for half the advantage. You get to see people who are veiled but are not protected by one (be a man! and all that). 1k is a price that is not payable by everyone but is low enough to entice a signficant portion to purchase it. In addition to that, if you make it so that you can upgrade to a full veil, the option is always a lingering temptation. If, as an act of solidarity, the playerbase declines to upgrade their veil bypassing artie to a full veil, then the playerbase would have essentially made the veil obsolete by their own power alone. If not, the costly (yet cheaper than an actual veil) alternative is always available.

This entire forum is entirely too dead.

All of the forums are. My guess: Achaeans are the sort of people who really like Halloween.

delete veils.

Mmm..I'm beg to differ.

Has Iron Realms ever increased the price of an artefact, ever?

I lol'd.

Delete veils
make SoA bashing only
give dragons steadying and or some more useful skills

As much fun as trying to find veiled raiders can be, they are never going to delete them or change them in any way.

Away with your pessimism!

MORE LIES AND PROPAGANDA.

Horrible idea.

I paid 2000 credits for my veil so the poor people could not sense me, allies and enemies alike. if you want to sense me or other people with veils, buy your own

I conditionally approve of this idea if it is restricted to sensing people with HOODS of the sphinx and not veils. *cough*

Make it a pair of glasses that you can buy at the Therean library for 5k, and has a decay time of 120 months, and I support.

This is an acceptable compromise.

Librarian glasses: When all the world's a library, no veiled overdue book escapes your gaze.