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Haren
So I've been thinking of changing class, haven't quite decided what yet. I'm thinking this time instead of just random switching, it might be fun to build up to it with some sort of RP storyline, or a ritual of sorts, something to explain the switch rather than "because I wanted to". So, I'd like to hear from some people who have done this before, and just opinions about it in general.

Thanks.
Quoren
Hmm, well, a ritual for a class change is probably a bit much unless there's a very compelling reason- for example, a long-time Priest becomes an Occultist and performs some sort of ceremony to welcome the powers of Chaos into his spirit (or vice versa). Really, the best advice there is to be sure your character has a good reason for the change, and allow it to emerge in his day-to-day actions up to the event without pushing it on people. If it's there, they'll see it, or they won't realize until later and will be hit with "oh! he was acting out a consistent character, nice!"
Naifos
QUOTE (Quoren @ Oct 21 2009, 12:25 PM) *
Hmm, well, a ritual for a class change is probably a bit much unless there's a very compelling reason- for example, a long-time Priest becomes an Occultist and performs some sort of ceremony to welcome the powers of Chaos into his spirit (or vice versa). Really, the best advice there is to be sure your character has a good reason for the change, and allow it to emerge in his day-to-day actions up to the event without pushing it on people. If it's there, they'll see it, or they won't realize until later and will be hit with "oh! he was acting out a consistent character, nice!"


Has anyone successfully (non tacky-ly) been a well known priest who became an Apostate? I always think it's kind of funny when someone is an Apostate and was never a priest since apostasy usually comes from defiance of something you were once part of. I don't mean like someone underhandedly making his or her way into the Church, but more of a Well known priest/ Sermon giver saying something he or she believes is true and a higher member confronts them calling it false, but he or she continues to practice that law and is ousted by the church.

I was thinking some interesting class changes would be.

Priest to Apostate, (I'm not sure if Apostate to priest is as climactic in my view)

Paladin to Infernal

Priest / Occultist,

Druid to Occultist (two rather reclusive sides. It's debatable, but I sometimes think they're opposites in cause)

Serpent to a pacifist Class (I was thinking monk, but most monks I know of like to fight)

Almost any Class to Druid (Recluse after years of City life or House life)

Magi to Sylvan (Studies elementalism but realizes nature is higher priority or something)

Serpent to Sentinel and vice versa (Realizes nature is a good weapon/ realizes killing over nature)

Shrub to Toad


I've really only named a few, and some are redundant so few would think of them, but RP wise I think it'd be interesting in the least.

Wattsee a'Lenendra
As an odd little note for the difference between Sylvan and Magi.

Both are Elementalism users, though Sylvans live in harmony with the world and even encourage it to aide them (groves). Magi are a little more brute force about what they want, and force reality to coincide with what they want (crystalism). Of course there are differences in character, but that seems to be the base of those additional skill sets.

Of course, this is just my own two cents.
Otha
QUOTE (Naifos @ Oct 21 2009, 02:45 PM) *
QUOTE (Quoren @ Oct 21 2009, 12:25 PM) *
Hmm, well, a ritual for a class change is probably a bit much unless there's a very compelling reason- for example, a long-time Priest becomes an Occultist and performs some sort of ceremony to welcome the powers of Chaos into his spirit (or vice versa). Really, the best advice there is to be sure your character has a good reason for the change, and allow it to emerge in his day-to-day actions up to the event without pushing it on people. If it's there, they'll see it, or they won't realize until later and will be hit with "oh! he was acting out a consistent character, nice!"


Has anyone successfully (non tacky-ly) been a well known priest who became an Apostate? I always think it's kind of funny when someone is an Apostate and was never a priest since apostasy usually comes from defiance of something you were once part of. I don't mean like someone underhandedly making his or her way into the Church, but more of a Well known priest/ Sermon giver saying something he or she believes is true and a higher member confronts them calling it false, but he or she continues to practice that law and is ousted by the church.

I was thinking some interesting class changes would be.

Priest to Apostate, (I'm not sure if Apostate to priest is as climactic in my view)

Paladin to Infernal

Priest / Occultist,

Druid to Occultist (two rather reclusive sides. It's debatable, but I sometimes think they're opposites in cause)

Serpent to a pacifist Class (I was thinking monk, but most monks I know of like to fight)

Almost any Class to Druid (Recluse after years of City life or House life)

Magi to Sylvan (Studies elementalism but realizes nature is higher priority or something)

Serpent to Sentinel and vice versa (Realizes nature is a good weapon/ realizes killing over nature)

Shrub to Toad


I've really only named a few, and some are redundant so few would think of them, but RP wise I think it'd be interesting in the least.



I don't know about priest to apostate, but Dalamar went priest (or was it Paladin?) to occultist back in the day of guilds. From what I remember, it was a pretty huge conversion.
Quoren
You need to stop attaching OOC concepts to IC concepts, even if the latter sounds a lot like the former. IC Apostates are the clerics of Evil, even if OOC apostates are simply people who preach things the religious authorities disavow. IC Apostates are not 'Priests who preach things the Church doesn't like,' they're... just essentially the Evil version of Priests.

That said, I'm sure there have been numerous Priest->Apostate class changes. On a related note, Gloirin effected a successful and fun Priest->Occultist class change, involving Babel and a lot of fun interactions. I think that interaction is the key here. Don't change out of the blue: interact, plant the seed in your character's mind, then when circumstances are right make a move.
Exelethril
I'm going occultist soon since you guys ex-communicated Mellisa.
Neraeos
It is more important to roleplay your character in a consistent fashion than it is to roleplay specific life-changing events, when you think in terms of the lifespan of your character.

What I mean by this is that your main focus should be on playing your current class and then playing your subsequent class. The change itself is a small, albeit significant thing in your character's life. This would necessitate some sort of backstory as to how this change occurred, but to do such a thing in real-time and involving others might seem a little anticlimatic to you, due to the casual way in which most others change class.

For your career as a character, you will gain far more satisfaction, and recognition, for "playing a good occultist" or "playing a good paladin", rather than being the fellow who "played a good transition".

That being said, I wish you the best of luck in your class change, and I hope the change and the aftermath work out well for you.
Balthazar
QUOTE (Exelethril @ Oct 21 2009, 11:27 AM) *
I'm going occultist soon since you guys ex-communicated Mellisa.


^^^ This please I want a churchfavour.
Naifos
QUOTE (Quoren @ Oct 21 2009, 03:13 PM) *
You need to stop attaching OOC concepts to IC concepts, even if the latter sounds a lot like the former. IC Apostates are the clerics of Evil, even if OOC apostates are simply people who preach things the religious authorities disavow. IC Apostates are not 'Priests who preach things the Church doesn't like,' they're... just essentially the Evil version of Priests.


Gah! I keep doing this too! It's really annoying to me when someone mentions Ourania or Urania, because OOC they're the same person. But like apostate above the word does exist in the english language, but since the Class apostate is different from the word OOC, you wouldn't use that word to refer to someone who is Cast out of Mhaldor for doing good because they would be an Apostate to Mhaldor making them good. wacko.gif

On an unrelated note, if Latin is Seleucarian IC, what's GreeK?

QUOTE (Exelethril @ Oct 21 2009, 04:27 PM) *
I'm going occultist soon since you guys ex-communicated Mellisa.


Probably something you should have detailed in character then told people.
Penquin
QUOTE
Has anyone successfully (non tacky-ly) been a well known priest who became an Apostate?

Dyzanru....

*EDIT*

What I remember most from this episode, is Dyzanru deliverance-rezzkilling Itktovian repeatedly.
In a locked Subdivision room.

Interesting times, for a young newbie paladin. I tried to save my guildmaster, I really did. But alas....
Haren
Thanks for the input everyone, I appreciate it.
Luciano
QUOTE (Neraeos @ Oct 21 2009, 09:57 AM) *
For your career as a character, you will gain far more satisfaction, and recognition, for "playing a good occultist" or "playing a good paladin", rather than being the fellow who "played a good transition".


This is the best advice I've ever heard/read given, having to do with changing classes.
Trevize
QUOTE (Penquin @ Oct 21 2009, 01:33 PM) *
QUOTE
Has anyone successfully (non tacky-ly) been a well known priest who became an Apostate?

Dyzanru....

He doesn't count, he's been every class at least twice.
Soludra
QUOTE (Naifos @ Oct 21 2009, 10:20 AM) *
On an unrelated note, if Latin is Seleucarian IC, what's GreeK?


Umm... From Kashar, perhaps? unsure.gif
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